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Callisto-moon
18 Jan 18 12:55
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A few unexpected and a lot that wont make the start line.
My tent has been sussed out and you vant get a big price like last year sadly, but ill still be happy
to see him win even if beating one with my cash on.
A few look good value nrnb at current prices e/w just dont bet them with william hills as their nrnb at the moment
is only if your horse does not run at the festival, if it runs in an alternative race you dont get your cash back.

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buddeliea
When: 18 Jan 18 12:59
I managed to get big prices on here ages ago for Tent, but he has to have BD and Faugheen as non runners to win.
Don't fear anything else though,and think he will place again.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 18 Jan 18 13:04
Thats why I backed him last year Bud, never expected the win but was a great
place price on the e/w.

a few others could be interesting Chitbello for one.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 18 Jan 18 15:23
I don't think Faugheen will run and even if he does I think he will not even go close to winning.
Beating a few average types in a 5 runner in Ireland is December is a million miles from this.

The favourite looks different class to the rest.
I am on My Tent at 46's as something can always go wrong.

For a big each way price John Constable is the one for me.
Why they decided to sit and wait only to be outsprinted last time I have no idea.
On decent ground in March I think he could place at a tasty price.
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 18 Jan 18 15:38
If Yorkhill hacks up over 2m next time out and Faugheen disappoints again in his next run will they run Min here?
By:
That is all
When: 18 Jan 18 17:29
Agree with the comments on Tent here too - biggest bet at last year’s Festival for me was him to place. This year there’s no juice in the price for that, although I think he’s got a good chance of a repeat. Buveur looks a class above anything, I’ve already done my money on Arctic Fire who thought could have been a dark horse, if Defi runs will probs. be on e/w.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 18 Jan 18 23:24
Isnt The New One not a million miles behind My Tent?
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 19 Jan 18 07:45
I think its hard to trust the new one. would of loved him to pick up
a champion. Maybe just maybe........
By:
That is all
When: 19 Jan 18 17:56
Think Twiston/Davies said he’s running in the Stayers... in which I think he’d have a decent chance.
By:
irishone
When: 20 Jan 18 08:41
few good young finishers in the stayers
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 20 Jan 18 15:54
quite happy with chitbello
By:
the bloob
When: 20 Jan 18 18:04
I took some of the 40s with Betfred yesterday on Chtibello, I have to admit I am surprised he has shortened in the betting after today's race. Getting weight and a beating from The New One is hardly anything to get excited about
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 22 Jan 18 08:51
I think the nerw one would of been prepped for that race and prob a bit left in chitibello.
PLus the hill at cheltenham will sort the new one out.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Jan 18 09:56
Don't think the hill will be his undoing, stays longer than the mother-in-law, but had his chances
By:
sageform
When: 23 Jan 18 07:42
Hard to name any certain runners in the CH apart from Buveur and MTOY so if you are confident of a run, place only or e/w makes sense.
By:
ACStafford
When: 23 Jan 18 08:50
The hill will sort The New One out? What are you on about?
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 23 Jan 18 09:37
Faded on the hill last year.
More likely to run in the world this year.
By:
ACStafford
When: 23 Jan 18 15:26
He just can't go with the quicker horses on good ground. Would have more chance in the Stayers, but the quicker ground will probably still show him up even over the longer distance imo. The Champion looks a tough race to find value at the moment. MTOY maybe, but I can't see him being much shorter on the day given his age. Verdana Blue could be a little interesting for each way betting at a massive price with her 7lb allowance if she takes on the boys.
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Jan 18 16:07
Faugheen is a sickening price and Buveur D'air is not much better either. However, Yorkhill is...if one is prepared to take 18.5 (here) with no insurance; Melon, I cannot have, and Defi Du Seuil will need to recapture his last season form to be a serious contender but his last run was woeful.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 23 Jan 18 17:16
Defi Du Seuil has an entry in the Irish Champion Hurdle - I can see him running there given his owner and that the only 2 plausible options this side of the water are the Kingwell and possibly the Morebattle Hurdle at Kelso (there is also the Contenders Hurdle at Sandown but I think Buveur D'Air is earmarked to run there).

I read he scoped badly after the Ascot run but I think there is a bigger problem in that last year's juvenile form looks pretty weak now.
By:
buddeliea
When: 25 Jan 18 20:56
"He did a nice little bit this morning and I'm happy with him. If all goes well between now and then (Irish Champion Hurdle) there's a good chance he'll line up there


Apparently thats an upbeat quote from Mullins re Faugheen.

Not sure how upbeat that is to be honest.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 25 Jan 18 22:28
cheers budd
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 03 Feb 18 16:54
Supersundae?
By:
buddeliea
When: 03 Feb 18 17:50
No competition from Ireland after today it seems.......a stayer wins their big race.

Looks a one horse race to me.
By:
sageform
When: 04 Feb 18 08:30
Defi de Seul is another to cross off the list and as said elsewhere, it is hard to fancy Faugheen after yesterday. I know a few will stay loyal but big improvement is needed. I don't suppose Nicky had Buveur fully wound up yesterday but he did seem to make quite hard work of beating John Constable. I still can't see past him or MTOY.
By:
geoff m
When: 04 Feb 18 10:07
Apples Jade could be a contender but that would require plenty of give in the ground .
By:
sixtwosix
When: 04 Feb 18 10:41
John Constable will be much better if the ground improves by mid March and is a solid e/w player.
By:
the bloob
When: 04 Feb 18 19:44
I've done John Constable in the w/o Buveur Dair market, I think I may go in again, 33/1 is crazy!
By:
buddeliea
When: 04 Feb 18 20:27
Reading comments on various threads on here, i get the impression that people are not rating BD that high, or at least not as highly as i do.
Really do not understand why to be honest.
I cant find a fault with him as a Champion Hurdler.
Jumps well,travels well,stays well and a real turn of foot.
Basically has everything one would want for a Champion Hurdler.
By:
duffy
When: 04 Feb 18 22:07
It doesn't help him that he's around at a time where the opposition is dire, he's god/solid and is enough currently to see him get the job done, I don't think he has a real turn of foot that is the signiature of a top 2 mile hurdler.

Look at his Supreme, the pace quickened and he was caught out and stayed on up the hill but was beaten by two better horses, it was no surprise that he was sent chasing but as the CH scene fell apart was brought back to win a shocking renewal, since then he's simply had to go through the motions against (for the grade) poor opposition.

For me, he's lucky that he's around now, if he was around 4 years ago, he'd be The New One, he'd be a staying on 3rd/4th against faster classier horses.

Just my opinion.
By:
duffy
When: 04 Feb 18 22:08
good/solid ...not god/solid, that was definitely not a Freudian slipGrin
By:
buddeliea
When: 05 Feb 18 07:52
Sure Duffy you have your opinion,fair enough of course.

Personally I would not use the supreme as a way of saying BD is not a top Champion Hurdler.
Altior and Min could well simply be better horses,they certainly were in that supreme anyway. Now they are the two top 2m chasers around,and probably would have won a Champion Hurdle or two between them had they stayed hurdling. Also a novice hurdler is exactly that, a novice, and they tend to improve as they get a bit older and more experienced.
Absolutely agree the opposition aint good,but that's not the fault of BD. When I watch him i see everything needed to be a top Champion Hurdler,i think he is one.
As for The New One,i would be confident that BD would have cruised past him four years ago, but of course that can only be an opinion.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Feb 18 12:33
I agree that he is a stone or more ahead of anything else around in the 2 mile hurdle division (Samcro excepted perhaps) but I just thought he had to be ridden quite hard to get away from John Constable and Nicky as good as admitted that he was not fully fit by saying he might need a racecourse gallop before Cheltenham as he can put on weight very easily.
By:
buddeliea
When: 05 Feb 18 12:44
Well the jockey was asleep and he put the horse to sleep as well.
They nearly got caught napping yes,but that was all it was.
He could have won by any margin the jockey wanted, but tried to give him as easy race as possible.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Feb 18 12:47
I didn't mean the last 100 yards, I meant when he was first asked to go away from John Constable in the straight. For a few strides I thought he was going to struggle to win at all.
By:
buddeliea
When: 05 Feb 18 12:54
Fair enough,i never saw anything to cause concern.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 05 Feb 18 13:04
its prob due to the race/ride given but he did not look unbeatable.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 05 Feb 18 13:04
its prob due to the race/ride given but he did not look unbeatable.
By:
buddeliea
When: 05 Feb 18 13:37
Did to me...on the day that is.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Feb 18 15:00
RPR about 10lb behind his CH run but that is fair enough in a prep race I suppose. He still needs to get back to nearer his best to justify his price.
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