Triumph Hurdle

Redicean looked a class act there to me. I'd make him challenging for favouritism in my book.

Yeh,hes very good.Jumped better than last time i saw him and showed that turn of foot again.
Think the 2nd could be pretty useful as well given time.
Great day out,bl00dy cold though,but the sun was out and Redicean certainly warmed me up.
Buveur Dair and Might Bite worked after racing which was a bonus,and got some nice photos for my collection.

All for a fiver.....cant be bad.

was only a fiver to get in Kempton yesterday? I would have gone had I known!

Redicean has more gears than Katchit, according his his trainer Alan King. Let's hope he's right (I'm on), and I've not had a "proper" Triumph winner since Mysilv, Oh So Risky and Kribensis - yes, it is that looooong.

6/1 (here) but generally 5/1 with most bookies.

I think we've already seen he has more gears that Katchit.

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Feb 25, 2018 -- 4:17PM, impossible123 wrote:

Redicean has more gears than Katchit, according his his trainer Alan King. Let's hope he's right (I'm on), and I've not had a "proper" Triumph winner since Mysilv, Oh So Risky and Kribensis - yes, it is that looooong.6/1 (here) but generally 5/1 with most bookies.

Dont think I've seen another horse finish a race so quick this season . 6/1 on Redicean looks smart EW bet

Bigfield
Was £20 on the day, but the owners of Kempton and Sandown send me occasional e-mails offering tickets for a fiver.
Got one for the last meeting when Redicean won,one for Saturday,and got another for the Sandown meeting the Saturday before Cheltenham.
Loads of people had them Saturday,so guess you just have to get on their e-mail list.

Redicean is attracting a lot of supporters here but I'm also looking for a serious saver (a winner). Is Apple's Shakira the real deal? 3/1 (nrnb) is a bit skinny...the 7lbs mares allowance is attractive though.

You know as much as anyone else on here,take 3's if you fancy the horse.
Tough race as always.

He definitely doesn't.

ive laid apples the price is too skinny for me.

Her price is extremely punitive for what she's done. I think that is mainly to do with being in the care of Hendo otherwise a more accurate price would be nearer 8/1. Maybe I need to play in-running for a bigger price.

ttt, thread was in danger of getting lost going on to 3rd page.
no news on race so hope didnt scare anyone opening thread.

We Have A Dream out of the Triumph.

Much to my delight I was able to cash out my stake with B365 so no harm done.
Have switched to Farclas now.

:( :( :( :( :( :( typical

Looks like Redicean has been sold. Must have changed hands for a nice few quid

Apple's Shakira is hot, hot hot but Redicean is on the drift, I wonder why.

i d be very surprised if apples shakira can beat redicean . hes very powerful , i know he doesnt have requisite course or going form . power gets you through bad ground and he has the most of it and speed to boot .

gears away.stormy ireland will be that far ahead of them it will be  race for 2nd

Redicean very impressive last time out and King knows whats needed to win the race.

I hope Redicean can do the business for King as he could do with a winner!

Apple's Shakira is as short as 11/10, crass or JP's money?

Cash out with 365 was only available on nrnb race's for me,a/p no cash out available you must be the only 1 uncle

Just had another nibble at 8/1 Redicean.
He just could be something special,just hope the ground dont stop him!!

I cashed this one out with them. Who needs 10k when 17 squid is a profit

Bet Confirmation - SB2061632521I - Internet
Time of bet: 13/11/2017 22:06:41
No.
Selections
Event
Event Date
E/W Terms
Odds
Result
1
Buveur D'air
Champion Hurdle
(Win And Each Way)
13/03/2018
3 Places
1/4 Odds
7/2
Won
2
Presenting Percy
RSA Chase
(Win And Each Way)
14/03/2018
3 Places
1/4 Odds
14/1
Won
3
Disko
Cheltenham Gold Cup
(Win And Each Way)
16/03/2018
3 Places
1/4 Odds
25/1
Lost

Multiples
Bet Type
No.of Bets
Unit Stake
Total Stake
To Return
Return
E/W Trebles
1
5.00
10.00

17.24
Stake:  10.00   Return:  17.24

Redicean for me as well, impressed with all his runs. Moves like an animal with plenty more in the tank.

Has hacked up on heavy at Kempton and won on soft, plus the poor skint bookies need this jolly downed.

Farclas wins

Bugger

Boom.

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Don't fancy that at all Willie.

Jack Regan must be interesting at a price,early days like

Jack Regan done it nicely at Market Rasen Quevega06 but i really think the UK 3 year old form is very average so far. Cracker Factory is way down the pecking order as a possible Truimph Hurdle winner.  Coeur Sublime has a lot to learn about jumping but he has from now till March to perfect it.  He has a massive engine and a real grinding type with a touch of class. I think the truimph is made for him.

I went to see him in the flesh on Saturday looks a smashing big thing - Long way 2 go but I'm still happy to have a little punt @ 66s for Jack

Wouldnt put you off.  Seems overpriced at 66s alright.  Do you think there is any juice in Coeur Sublimes price?

16s at this time of year seems about right after his first run,a rave they targeted for mega fortune last yr in same colours

Elliott seems to do well with the 3 yr olds so it'll be interesting to see if he's anything else over the next month or two..

Yeah i think he might be a bit classier than Mega Fortune(rip). If he improve like Mega Fortune did then he'll be some tool.

Can’t believe Adjali is still 33/1.

His French form keeps getting boosts. Quel Destin did it nicely on debut and Adjali has beaten him comfortably twice. Crazy that QD is shorter in the market just because he’s run here imo.

CCM, Adjali is closely related to top class flat horse too, is he coming to Britain, or still trained in France?

Already with NJH mate.

Not a bad place to be for a top juvenile!

Have you found any Adjali race videos, of his 3 runs in France?

If he won a hurdle race in April does he still qualify for the Triumph Hurdle?

Cracker Factory gets an Irish boost
50-1

Seems a bit wrong currently

Very nice debut from Adjali there. The Triumph has a new fav

Torpilo has now thrown his hat into the mix.  Very good at Sandown.

Irish form is all over the place
Tomorrow could clarify the situation

Sir Eric narrowly wins
Not for me

Quel Destin wins again. Great little jumper and tough as nails.

the winner has yet to make a START

To answer the question earlier about Adjali, the Triumph is for 4yos, not novice hurdlers. They can have won hurdle races as 2yo's and still qualify. I remember way back when Jim Old had the favourite for the race in Cima and we were confident that it would beat all of the UK opposition but it was beaten by a horse from France called Shiny Copper that had been hurdling since the previous March.

Think the winner just romped in at Chelters

Made his debut Jan 5

Wants soft ground I reckon

Was surely just a sighter for Sir Eric - he’ll be different gravy imo.

Imo the winner has already beaten the favourite who romped in Saturday.

Not ran in UK yet. With Nichols.

Oohhh you devil MOM!! Are you trying to start a plunge on here too.....

Pic D'Orhy for those who prefer less of the cloak and dagger.

At a guess Saturday's winner has probably improved since they met. You would just be hoping that the French form is better than Irish/English form.

According to the going reports has never run on anything quicker than very soft.

Best priced 16/1 and never any bigger than 20/1 so hardly a monster gamble thus far.

Very keen on Laskadine. The Warwick win was workmanlike but he could improve dramatically for his next run. He jumped in the way some French recruits do first time here but settled and stayed. Suspect the next run could place him near the front of the market.

Very very impressive

Yes, think Laskerdine may go the FW route

Vert impressive indeed. Shame I took no interest until today as I'm no great fan of The Triumph; good Flat pedigree, and 3rd to Stradivarius. This race is his only entry t the Festival. And I think he'll be a significantly shorter on the day, and probably considered an Irish banker at the Festival; his stablemate the impressive winner of the Trial at Cheltenham Fakir D'oudairies could be re-routed to the Supreme given the same ownership as he's more than one entries.

Fakir D'Oudairies is not owned by JP to the best of my knowledge, he might still be re-routed though. Interesting that he got multiple entries but Sir Erec got just the one.

jj Slevin said he'd have no issue taking Sir Erec on in March so they'll obviously be taking each other on.   Sir Erec wont be much, if any shorter on the day.  Antepost gone ta ****.

Sir Erec now 9/4 here.

Hugely impressive run on Sunday and gave the impression he would devour the Cheltenham hill. We're badly in need of some top notch novices so hoping he will be it.

Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?

"Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?"

Remember HousesofParliament and Sword Fighter? Seldom do highly rated flat horses transfer their class to jumping. I remember JOB sent a bunch of them to Enda Bolger for schooling and the majority of them didn't even make it to the track. Sir Erec looks a natural though. Fingers crossed he develops into a top 2 miler.

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"Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?"

Remember HousesofParliament and Sword Fighter? Seldom do highly rated flat horses transfer their class to jumping. I remember JOB sent a bunch of them to Enda Bolger for schooling and the majority of them didn't even make it to the track. Sir Erec looks a natural though. Fingers crossed he develops into a top 2 miler.
ye wouldn't have thought these would have wanted to go over the banks and end up the cross country or the la touche

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Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?
am sure many posters could think of a reason for that

Indeed. I remember that year well; I was on Landofhopeandglory, Housesofparliament and one another who did not make it to the racecourse despite running in a Derby Trial. But Sir Erec (SE) did win 1st time out, and was fav after, only usurped by SE after FD won impressively at Cheltenham.

I think SE and FD could turn out to be horses to be reckoned with over hurdles and fences in the future. Both have been promising so far.

6/4 now after the JP buying Fakir news.

Interesting race for Laskadine tommorow at Haydock. 3 furlongs further and up against her elders. Snapped up all the 25s plus for the Triumph and now 55!!Hopefully she will bolt up as I think her stamina might still make her competetive in the Triumph.

that was nice from quel distin.i like him.
improving with every race which is just want you want.
visually impressive,even if opposition werent great.

Another boost to the form of Fakir D'oudaries who brushed aside Adjali (just touched-off by Quel Distin) easily.

Well ive missed the fav,but happy with QD to take him on with.

I missed the juicy prices of Sir Erec but do have Fakir D'oudaries 12/1 (nrnb) for this; the latter is my main bet for The Supreme at 20 with 'Match****'.

Nice Imp,i got 16 QD.
Will possibly have a look for another near the day.

I think the interview with JOB spoke volume today. Joseph said: "It makes sense to separate them but Frank Berry and JP will make the decision."

Fakir D'oudaries is this way bound then. By the way is Al Dancer justified to be such short price fav despite winning the Betfair easily? What did he beat?

Sir Erec (6/4) is very short for this. Is he passed the post already even before more JP money on race day? He'd easily go odds-on if JP indulges further.

Very impressive from from Fusil Raffles today, a very big danger to Sir Erec, and the ownership can run the horse that led today to try and pester SE up front in an attempt to mess up his jumping that was atrocious on debut when he raced in amongst horses.

Looked good, hard to tell what he’s best though. Also looked to have a nasty cut on his back leg which could take some healing

Personally, I thought crossing the line he looked a massive danger to the favourite. Travelled well, jumped very well and quickened up nicely. Hard to fault. Clearly the favourite has a big engine but his jumping is a work in progress and he had the run of the race last time. Get a couple wrong at the Festival and it could suddenly become very hard work.

All of that thrown up in the air by the cut. He wasn't obviously lame after the race but presumably the next couple of days will be crucial as to whether he makes the race. A real shame if he doesn't.

The visually impressive winner Fusil Raffles has been matched at 16 here, and is still weak. Could he be going the same way as Le Richebourg? He's an appointment with the vet this morning about the cut he sustained in his win at the weekend.

Yeah, it's looking that way. Which is a shame, as I need to find something to get Sir Erec beaten. I may end up with egg on my face on Friday, but he's far shorter than he should be in my book.

He's out. Just been confirmed.

Oh dear, mot good for racing even though that's the peril of antepost. Who'll be next between now and Festival? I always dread this time period.

Pic Dorhy has an entry this weekend ACStafford.... his French form is of the highest order.

Surprised he's still a double figure price NRNB.

Only runs in Triumph if it is soft ....Nicholls .

Interesting. Nicholls appears to be very keen on him. On the soft side is the quote on Racing Post, so maybe he'll get a run on good to soft.

No brainer NRNB imo.

Or no brains

Harry Derham on the FFP special released tonight -
"Never mind Quel Destin lets talk about Pic D'Orhy. We worked them the other day and Pic beat him 20 lengths."
Save him for Aintree Blake says!
Harry joking with the lads. They are well aware of the hype lol!

Quel Destin in great form (Blake says on a line through Adjali Sir Erec could cover 2 mares mid race and still beat Quel Destin - the lads are in good form!)

Pic D'Orhy. Again plans ground dependent. If its on the slower side he will run. Blake jumps in take your time send him to Market Rasen instead.
Very nice horse Derham says. Very relaxed horse who does everything right. "The way he went around Wincanton the other day it was like his arse was on fire."

From racing post

Breaking news
Sir Erec, a general evens favourite for the Triumph Hurdle, has suffered a stone bruise but trainer Joseph O'Brien is "confident" he will be fit to run at Cheltenham.

is something up with sir erec,out to 2.82

That'll be Fakir getting switched then

O'Brien is confident he'll make the race given it's another 8 days to event.

Keep on raining.

Without mentioning him by name, I gave you the winner lads on 28th January. The soft ground is exactly what we want.

Erec in according to Skybet

Sir Erec is the class horse, and has the form too. No doubt JP will get stuck-in on the day; starts odds-on a near certainty, I believe.