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Also the younger trainers are more likely to take a horse to the senior race skipping the novice race. Coneygree, Moon Racer etc you can easily do your money with this now more than ever in the past. The press clamour for it as well. You are sitting on 3s Altior the Arkle hoping Douvan doesnt get injured causing a switch or the press banging on about a head to head a year earlier.
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Oh and Elliott is getting far too good at hiding his horses form ready for the Festival.
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Also since being taken over by Crls, Lads no longer take a decent antepost bet like they have in the past. They have gone from the best to the worst over night since being taken over.
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I don't really see why any of that means ante-post is dead...
If it's a layers paradise where are they all? Still plenty of value around for those who seek it. Tully East was a good example in the novices' handicap on day one. Was 20-1 everywhere a week beforehand and went off at 8-1 and won easily. Had previous Festival form and was a perfect type for the race. |
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There are a lot of layers on here. It is the backers who are disappearing as it becomes too difficult as explained in numerous posts. One example doesnt cancel all the negatives for me.
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Also i dont even look at the handicaps as i have no idea who is best at hiding their horses form in the run up to the Festival.
The grade 1s are getting much tougher and thats where you would place decent money, not on the handicap lotteries. |
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For the 2018 Gold Cup Sizing John is 8/1, Yorkhill at 10/1 and Might bite at 11/1 here are ok looking at the possible field; Thistlecrack is fav at 6/1 but will be outstayed and/or achieve 100% recovery from injury?
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And yet the prices of the last half dozen winners of the Gold Cup were what, 50 weeks out?
Only Bobsworth would've been anywhere near those prices, I'd imagine, with the last 3 nearer 100/1 than 10/1. |
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Mullins believes Yorkhill did enough in the JLT to make him a worthy contender for the Gold Cup, and this time next year he could be this race bound.
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2012 Synchronised
2013 Bobs Worth 2014 Lord Windermere 2015 Coneygree 2016 Sizing John These winners of the Gold Cup, perhaps other than Bobs Worth would have been massive odds a year out. To that extent it is ok taking prices on here as you are unlikely to want a grand on a 66/1 or 100/1 shot at the bookies. The standard of staying chasers has plummeted since the fantastic Best Mate, Kauto Star and Denman days. The race has become a pin job. |
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2016 Don Cossack
2017 Sizing John |
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I have a fiver waiting to back Road to Respect @ 100 in the Gold Cup and Ryanair if anyone wants to take the bet
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Was Bob's Worth a long shot, having won the RSA?
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Although the addition of Don Cossack in 2016 adds to your argument. He was a rank outsider after the 2015 Festival, still 40/1 after winning the Melling and only came into prominence having won the Punchestown Gold Cup.
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Was the Don really 40s after his Melling win???/
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cyclops • April 2, 2017 11:40 AM BST
Was Bob's Worth a long shot, having won the RSA?....I can answer that one NO HE WASNT. |
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Still very pleased with my analysis in the OP.
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LOTS OF ENTRIES out today - we need the 2018 threads up boys
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