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That is all
09 Feb 17 03:49
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As Budd said it's been quiet on here this year, so who's organising this year's Plunge horse? @Rogerthebutler haven't you done it before in previous years? What do ppl think? This for me has always been one of the highlights of the Festival...
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Report onehundredandeighty February 9, 2017 5:58 AM GMT
Morning. It is normally myself and a few others who discuss everything then narrow it down. Am happy to be involved again
Report That is all February 9, 2017 6:00 AM GMT
Perfect. Thanks 180 & Welcome back btw - jst saw your other post too!
Report Can't Catch Me February 9, 2017 7:07 AM GMT
I nominate Crack Tiepy in the Fred Winter. Currently 25-1 and I believe that's the plan!

Could well go off fav on the day.
Report cause and effect February 9, 2017 7:26 AM GMT
Crazy Martin PIpe you mean???
Report Can't Catch Me February 9, 2017 7:34 AM GMT

Sort you are right indeed. Just woke up Blush
Report Can't Catch Me February 9, 2017 7:40 AM GMT
Correction: I nominate Crack Tiepy in the Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys Race. Currently 25-1 and I believe that's the plan!

Could well go off fav on the day.

Apologies Plain
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y February 9, 2017 9:23 AM GMT
Ivanovich Gorbatov - County Hurdle
Report morpteh mackem February 9, 2017 10:01 AM GMT
for good measure pertemps
Report rogerthebutler February 9, 2017 11:00 AM GMT
Yeah it's always a good laugh but - at the risk of getting all up the @rse about what should be a bit of fun - everyone needs to buy into the objective.

This could be anything from to back a winner (duh!), to try and make the market move, to get the 'BF Cheltenham Festival Newsgroup' mentioned by media outlets as 'the men the bookies fear'!

In the past we've tended to go for one horse in one race (usually a handicap and usually the 3 miler on day one as the runners are known, and punters don't get lost in the maelstrom of other activities during the rest of the week) plus a life-changing multiple. Bets are usually placed at a specified hour (Monday at or as close to noon as possible, from memory) for nothing else than the fun of seeing any bookies reaction to a multiplicity of bets on the same horses, up and down the land.

It goes without saying we've won naff all from this exercise over the years! Grin

Anyway, there's a bit of 'structure' and 'how we've done things in the past'. Whilst it's great to get input from as may people as possible, I think it's always best to let the final decision rest with one person before the charge.

Not me though as I will be out of circulation for much of the Monday this year, but good luck and thanks to anyone who does step up to organize it.
Report PyrrhicVictory February 9, 2017 7:27 PM GMT
Count me in for the first time this year!

Sounds like a bit of crack win, lose or draw!
Report rl91 February 9, 2017 8:27 PM GMT
I'll be in again this far

Would be pretty tempted to suggest whatever the least favoured JP horse is in the Triumph.
Everyone knows he loves a plot and in a Triumph where he could have a hand full, a plunge on his least favoured would probably make the bookies sit up and take note
Report chelters16 February 9, 2017 8:57 PM GMT
lm in this year,sounds a bit of a giggle.
Report DECALEC February 9, 2017 9:04 PM GMT
Just u or all 15 of ye
Report maelduin February 10, 2017 6:38 PM GMT
Count me in too.

I'll nominate which ever one of Tony Martins runs in the FW (as long as it has an OR of around 130).
Report deepingfox February 10, 2017 9:39 PM GMT
Count me in too. Love the idea. Handicap Hurdles are my speciality if needed.
Report Howdi February 11, 2017 9:20 PM GMT
^^^ youve kept that talent well hidden
Report Can't Catch Me February 11, 2017 11:10 PM GMT
Report onehundredandeighty February 12, 2017 5:32 AM GMT
The idea is that once there is a so called selected panel,they then get together (by private message) or like last year we created a whatsapp group. Then it is discussed and narrowed down to the final selection/s which are then revealed at a set date and time to try and cause a ripple in the market along with that added dimension or us all for a bit of fun make a few quid as well. As mentioned above we aint done brill over the years but the aim isnt to back a fav if possible as of course the bigger the price and the more people steam in then we shift the market. In the past it has only been advised to have fivers tenners or scores etc. So with only four weeks left may i suggest we crack on nominating a panel of say a max of five?
Report That is all February 12, 2017 10:12 AM GMT
Definitely 180 - isn't it usually you, WellChief, FOYLESWAR & Marychain that do it? If so & ppl want to do that again then happy with the normal panel! I still remember Olofi in the County in 2012!
Report onehundredandeighty February 12, 2017 11:11 AM GMT
Ha, yes like it was yesterday. Let everyone decide whos in out shake it all about then we can start a plottin Cool
Report The Dragon February 12, 2017 9:43 PM GMT
I'm in
Report DontBeSakhee February 13, 2017 8:12 PM GMT
I'm in.
Report Jb23 February 13, 2017 10:45 PM GMT
Im In. Look forward to this every year
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! February 18, 2017 3:38 PM GMT
Look out for


Depends how the handicapper reacts to that run

Report geoff m February 18, 2017 6:40 PM GMT
hcapper already fooked Rashaan dont think he will show
Report The Dragon February 27, 2017 11:57 AM GMT
is this going anywhere?
Report impossible123 February 27, 2017 1:27 PM GMT
Has to be Thistlecrack, from 990 here to 8/1 for the 2017 Gold Cup.
Report FOYLESWAR February 27, 2017 1:28 PM GMT
dragon maybe contact marychain on the footy forum
Report The Dragon February 27, 2017 3:50 PM GMT
can someone sort this out as its getting pretty close now , suggest the previous panel with suggestions on this thread from others -  a few have been put up already
Report FOYLESWAR February 27, 2017 4:02 PM GMT
problem is dragon some are still doubly declared
Report The Dragon February 27, 2017 7:48 PM GMT
true foyles- when is it normally done?
Report FOYLESWAR February 27, 2017 7:52 PM GMT
think they put the selection up a day or 2 before the start of fes , you betting on the leices /liv game dragon ?
Report go-all-in February 27, 2017 8:00 PM GMT
I'm in as always. More than happy to help with selection if needed but I imagine you're spoiled for choice.
Report FOYLESWAR February 27, 2017 8:30 PM GMT
yeah go all in hopefully rog and marychain will do this one as per norm ,  see the chelt ap acca thread as well
Report mobilebookmakercouk February 28, 2017 9:59 AM GMT
sub lieutenant
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 February 28, 2017 10:02 AM GMT
GAYEBURY - Prob pertemps
Report onehundredandeighty March 2, 2017 6:18 AM GMT
Right, bull by the horns time. Not much happening so message me anyone who would like to input. We will do just the single so foyles' can sort the acca. After discussion and final plunge horse being decided i will release the beasts name on Monday 13th March around 13.30. The clock is ticking so lets get cracking Cool
Report sjh1591 March 2, 2017 12:06 PM GMT
First season AP betting someone aware me on what's going on here
Report FOYLESWAR March 2, 2017 12:39 PM GMT
hi sj ,and welcolm to the forum  , the "plunge "is something thats been going for a few years now ,its basically a single bet in one of the festival handicaps  at a decent price  that is selected by 2 posters, rogerthebutler and marychain ,the selection is posted around lunchtime on the monday of cheltenham week and a large percentage of the forum back it , although the numbers on the forums have dwindled this year so there may not be the numbers there once were ,its just a bit of fun and hopefully we can profit from it , becoming a bit of a tradition now . an each way accumallator is also being planned..............
Report TYSON 2 March 2, 2017 12:54 PM GMT
I,m in. couldn,t be any worse than my acca,s this year ! !
Report Callisto-moon March 3, 2017 12:55 PM GMT
I'm in what's the date we all plunge in?
Report FOYLESWAR March 3, 2017 1:34 PM GMT
think it will probably be the monday callisto ,but with the dwindle in numbers on the forum it may need to be renamed as the forum plop ! from now on !
Report marychain1 March 3, 2017 4:59 PM GMT
Count me in. I've been in the States as much as I've been here this winter and I might take a back seat on the choosing side this time if someone else wants a go, but I'll definitely pile in.

Report ath March 3, 2017 9:07 PM GMT
I'm in too .......
Report charlieptl March 3, 2017 9:20 PM GMT
Count me in lads!!
Report onehundredandeighty March 4, 2017 8:45 AM GMT
Reference my previous message
Report geoff m March 4, 2017 10:03 AM GMT
If we want in do we PM a horse let the selection panel choose from those nominated then take the plunge once PMD said horse on Monday
Or just sit back and await hoss to be PMD thats selected
If so im in either way . No doubt it will be reported from books reps as sustained gamble from well known facesLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report The Dragon March 4, 2017 10:05 AM GMT
msg and selection sent 180Cool
Report Quevega06 March 5, 2017 8:35 PM GMT
I'm in
Report Quevega06 March 5, 2017 8:35 PM GMT
What do I need to do ?
Report johnslad March 5, 2017 8:41 PM GMT
your doe if this runs to form
Report onehundredandeighty March 5, 2017 8:48 PM GMT
Got that dragon. Geoff yes its the idea that people put forward a selection with some reasoning and rational for their selection then once the selected panel have narrowed it down and agreed on the plunge horse then its released to the forum on the monday
Report bankit March 5, 2017 8:52 PM GMT
Once horse is selected, do you bet with the bookies or exchange?
Report onehundredandeighty March 5, 2017 9:00 PM GMT
Up to yrself bankit but best priced bookie was usual way to try n shift the market and get a ripple going
Report Benjy March 5, 2017 9:37 PM GMT
I'll be in again for the craic

My suggestion; Old Guard - Coral Cup... Confused
Report geoff m March 5, 2017 9:50 PM GMT
Mister Mayagi Coral Cup ran a screamer in Supreme made a complete horlicks of the 1st hurdle but upsides Buveur Dair and Petit Mouchoir @ 2nd last finishing just in front off P.M has won twice @ track and over distance will be suited by a step up back to 2 1/2 and better ground dissapointed on soft and heavy in past. Stable had 2nd last year  with Long House Hall . Skelton is a master in his brief time laying em out for these big hcaps. Superb Story, Ctibello,North Hill Harvey etc. Currently around 25s
Report Cash Is King March 6, 2017 1:04 AM GMT
I've never understood the point of this annual thread. Not only does the cumulative impact of all the 50 pence bets placed by those saying "count me in" have zero impact on price but the so-called "plunge horse" never wins! This thread reads like a lonely hearts club.
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 March 6, 2017 8:33 AM GMT
Old Guard is one i'm interested in backing whereever i see him pop up next week. You go back far enough you see some decent handicapping type form. Rated at a high of 157 he's now come down the weights rated 150, so quite possibly might find himself near the top of the weights where ever he runs but last run he would have had no chance in again unowhatimeanharry anyways and was still dropped a pound or two. He's a hardy horse thats type often pops up in these festival handicaps at nice prices.

We'll see
Report PyrrhicVictory March 6, 2017 9:15 AM GMT
Says he posting at 01.04 in the morning.
Report Cash Is King March 6, 2017 9:19 AM GMT
Who cares what time anyone posts? The quality of a post should be judged on its content not its timing.
Report geoff m March 6, 2017 9:25 AM GMT
Lonely hearts club 1.04 in the morning it could be inferred you are already a member
Report grumpyjim March 6, 2017 10:16 AM GMT
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Report letsrock! March 6, 2017 9:35 PM GMT
Count me in...
Report MuayThaiClyde March 9, 2017 9:28 AM GMT
Aye go on then!
Report MuayThaiClyde March 9, 2017 9:28 AM GMT
Aye go on then!
Report onehundredandeighty March 10, 2017 5:15 AM GMT
Time is well and truely getting on now. Ive had a few messages with selections,does anyone want to sift thru them with me to make a final decision for Monday or shall we just go with the most compelling case and pile in when released Monday? Il be back on tonight and again Sunday so be quick and decide fellow plungers Silly
Report The Dragon March 10, 2017 7:01 PM GMT
just go for it 18oCool
Report marychain1 March 10, 2017 7:10 PM GMT
I'll have a look at what you've got if you want mate
Report onehundredandeighty March 11, 2017 5:32 AM GMT
Il message you in morning MC Cool
Report The Dragon March 11, 2017 7:15 AM GMT
if that's the case happy to input if it helps
Report Shrewd_dude March 11, 2017 9:53 PM GMT
I'm in. Surely we are due a winner.
Report a bitofinterest March 12, 2017 10:56 PM GMT
Report The Dragon March 13, 2017 6:30 AM GMT
waiting with bated breath
Report Cash Is King March 13, 2017 10:05 AM GMT
You can almost smell the people who sign up for "the Plunge" you mean?

Rumour has it that few if any of the Plunge merchants will be at Cheltenham in person this week. Instead, the Festival will just be like any other racing day, stuck in front of the PC or telebox hoping on their lonesome.

Look forward to finding out at the end of the week what the Plunge horse was and how it fared. I can confidently predict the latter and I know I won't notice the Plunge when it happens because a small number of cack-handedly coordinated 50p each way bets does not move the market.
Report wellchief March 13, 2017 10:48 AM GMT
If you're not interested in getting involved why read the thread, and then go to the effort of doing several posts on it?  It's a bit of fun between like minded people who want to have a collective winner during the best week of the year, and not cranks who like to have a go at others.

...also, what has being at the course got to do with it?  You like staring at a screen 100 yards away, missing all of the pre and post race interviews, queueing for a piss and pint?  Then so be it.

Anyway, like RV above, I don't care because I'm in a good mood.  Biggest meeting of the year starts tomorrow, I'm off work all week and all is good with the world.  Bring it on!!!
Report wellchief March 13, 2017 11:21 AM GMT
Think it's normally around midday today mate.
Report onehundredandeighty March 13, 2017 2:07 PM GMT
This years plunge horse is......
RAINBOW DREAMER in the fred winter 25/1 at billies

Report Callisto-moon March 13, 2017 2:13 PM GMT
Report geoff m March 13, 2017 2:27 PM GMT
Report DontBeSakhee March 13, 2017 2:38 PM GMT
Top work gent.
Report grumpyjim March 13, 2017 3:38 PM GMT
will put a few big prices with it and  hope i can make it an E W   BET  ....AT LEAST A DOUBLE ..SINGLE ON NOW .  ........POT LUCK ANY WAY ..   BEST WISHES FOR 4 DECENT DAYS ..
Report wellchief March 13, 2017 4:21 PM GMT
Excellent work lads - I'm on.
Report grumpyjim March 13, 2017 5:19 PM GMT
16 to 1 .. taken  3.40  ..?? .more than us knows something .. here ??
Report grumpyjim March 13, 2017 5:26 PM GMT
maybe .......... places  each way   4  place scuppered it  ?? ...with 2 tomorrow  ... Arpage Dalene  12 to 1  and Ibis Du Rhee 10 to 1 .. 4and 5 places in that order  .. ?
Report The Dragon March 13, 2017 6:36 PM GMT
yup I'm onCool
Report TYSON 2 March 13, 2017 8:05 PM GMT
on again!!
Report geoff m March 13, 2017 8:15 PM GMT
grumpy please dont say youve tried to take 16s when 25s still available with books and 27.0 here
Report liberator of the oppressed March 13, 2017 8:43 PM GMT
9 people viewing presently this thread diplorable isn't it where did it go wrong?
Report grumpyjim March 13, 2017 10:30 PM GMT
never grew up to tell lies ..  would have been caned . ?? /
if this is a winner  will  let you call the bookmaker concerned to tell you its O K to divulge the transaction .. me  I  JUST HOPE IT WINS AND HAVE PICKED TWO GOOD PLACES WITH IT ,, .. REGRET IF AN ONE IS UPSET .. READ A LOT  OF absolute nonsense on here  ..their you have it .. ??>>   PRICES  are only as good as what you ...may get laid .. but not always .. SOMEONE GOT A FRIGHT FOR TWO MINUTES ???
Report DECALEC March 13, 2017 11:45 PM GMT
For someone joined May 03 and your literacy is all askew but 4000 replies,pull the other 1 ffs
Report Cash Is King March 14, 2017 8:08 AM GMT
The true enemy is the bookies and as the 4 day battle gets underway I wish everyone well with their bets and hope the bookies leave Cheltenham on Friday thoroughly dejected and defeated.
Report SaveTheWhales. March 15, 2017 7:56 AM GMT
I'm on!

50s now on here

I doubled my steak of course
Report TrainStopper March 15, 2017 9:55 AM GMT
im on 40/1 ew
Report marychain1 March 15, 2017 10:12 AM GMT
Report geoff m March 15, 2017 4:31 PM GMT
Now 80!!
Report Shrewd_dude March 15, 2017 4:49 PM GMT
Lost a leg.Cry
Report The Dragon March 15, 2017 6:10 PM GMT
came but didn't stay!!
Report geoff m March 16, 2017 6:03 AM GMT
Thanx anyway to all involved bit of a laugh.Collectively we thought we could move markets , little did we realise it would be in the opposite direction.Laugh
Report duffy April 21, 2017 2:38 PM BST
Just gone in at NewburyGrin
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