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Confirmation of the Ballyward problem:
He has been entered in the Champion Bumper, but he pulled a muscle the other day and we’ll have to see how he recovers from that before making a decision on his participation. |
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Anything on redhotphillypeppers?
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can anyone remember being less excited about a festival bumper before?
Serious lack of talking horses this year |
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Yes may hope MR.ED gets an entry then
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Ye ^^^^^not yes
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36 entries incl Western Ryder
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WILLIE HAS 5.....
15Mar17 Che 2m. 4-6y NHF (75K)(Grd 1) Next Destination Redhotfillypeppers Carter Mckay Mystic Theatre Ballyward |
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@Colonel Sanders -- can anyone remember being less excited about a festival bumper before?
Serious lack of talking horses this year I do not recall ever being excited about the bumper but the lack of talking horses will surely be addressed over the next fortnight as the preview evenings get underway and pissed-up pundits, trainers and jockeys swap rumours and tales of catching pigeons. |
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Owner Barry Connell is always keen to win this race and I see he's got a few horses entered up. Borderline Chatho looks overpriced at 33/1.
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Mr Eboue • March 1, 2017 6:52 PM GMT
Greatrex seemed confident of a big run from Western Ryder. Obviously hard to quantify the form of many runners but I got the feeling he'll be disappointed if he doesn't make the frame. |
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Kevin Blake bigged up WR at the BF Cheltenham preview, despite the Bumper not being covered.
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Anyone got the BHA balloting ratings yet? Usually out pretty sharpish.
TIA |
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Although he's only won a Class 6 Bumper I note Dan Skelton said Cause Toujours was his best chance of a winner at the Moate preview.
I don't know whether he's one of those trainers who give a different horse at each preview night but I also noticed that when he took 3 for a racecourse gallop at Warwick, Harry Skelton partnered Cause Toujours rather than either of the better known others - one was Mister Mayagi, can't remember the other one. All circumstantial obviously but the bumper is one where it's a struggle to know the value of the form going in. |
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Ballyward out to 25 on here. Surely wont be running. Daphne Du Clos, 2nd fav with many books is out to 15.5. Maybe waiting for the mares bumper in Aintree ?? Not sure Nicky is a massive fan of the Cheltenham festival bumper.
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Cause Toujours seems to be the mover in the last few days but that form of his bumper win in Warwick has worked out terribly. Probably got talked up at a preview night. Would anybody know what Ruby rides?? I presume Carter McKay but he won this race on a 4th string one year!!!!.....
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Patrick normally gets first choice and I would be amazed if he's not on Carter McKay.
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Yes Patrick will be on Carter McKay according to all the previews.
Think Cause Toujours has shortened as Skelton gave it as his best chance of a winner at one. |
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Word on another forum that Daphne du Clos won't run.
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There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Anyone mildly put out by the increasing likelihood that Henderson's wonder mare will not run at Cheltenham needs to re-read my post of 16th February on this thread. |
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Yes, Cash Is King called it correctly re Daphne du Clos. Fehily said it was Non Runner last night at a preview.
Has anyone any thoughts on BAKMAJ? I have had a small EW bet. He was 2nd first time up behind Carter Mckay then won easily next time. He is 8 times the price of the Fav for a 2 length defeat and he certainly came on for the run. I'm sure Carter has improved also, but the price difference seems extreme to me 25/1 against 3/1!!!! Just looks value to me. |
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Owner Barry Connell seems to like Bakmaj a lot and rates him is number 1 bumper hope. I personally don't think the Carter McKay form is particularly strong - his impressive Naas win was in a very slow time - but I know that Connell is fielding a strong entry and would love to win this race.
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Cash is King.... who are you calling blind? And who is put out?
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Cash Is King. Its also a bit odd to use the time as some kind of negative to that Naas run. The time is completely pointless in a four runner crawl of a race that tuned into a sprint.
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Henderson confirms Daphne Du Clos does not run in the bumper
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Had a ton on Bakmaj @ 20/1 nrnb earlier after reading Barry Connells bit on the RP website.
Watched the video of his two runs and he must have traded at odd-on against Carter McKay with a 150 yards to run and then won well last time. Shouldn't be 6 or 7 times the price of the favourite and hopefully I can lay off at around 10/1-12/1 on the day for a nice free bet. |
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Thought Cash is King might be interested to know Daphne du Clos was definitely running at the Festival until she bruised a foot this weekend. NJH is apparently gutted as he was very sweet on her chances.
That's from an owner who was at the yard on Sunday. |
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She will miss the rest of the season btw.
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Can't catch me - no I'm not nterested. Henderson is a creature of habit. He doesn't target the bumper and certainly doesn't aim his mares at it. DDC is clearly decent but if she had run at Cheltenham she wouldn't have beaten WR who is, according to Greatrex, the best British bumper horse this season.
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Losing count of the non runners or short price favourites that Can't Catch Me thinks might win the Bumper. Perhaps his energy would be best wasted pipedreaming on the sad feckwits "this year's plunge" thread.
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True post^
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There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Anyone mildly put out by the increasing likelihood that Henderson's wonder mare will not run at Cheltenham needs to re-read my post of 16th February on this thread. Why would anyone want to read a post that was incorrect? |
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Losing count of the non runners or short price favourites that Can't Catch Me thinks might win the Bumper.
Can you really not count past one? |
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From the RP website. (Echoes what I posted on 16th February and no mention of a bruised foot.)
Henderson rules Daphne Du Clos out of Bumper By Graham Dench 10:42AM 7 MAR 2017 DAPHNE DU CLOS, second favourite for the Weatherbys Champion Bumper, will miss the race trainer Nicky Henderson has disclosed. The four-year-old filly leaped out of the pack and to the head of affairs when running out an easy three and a quarter length winner of the same Newbury bumper on Super Saturday Ballyandy claimed en route to festival glory last year. "We've simply decided that she's not going to cope with it, and she'll sit still for a while now," explained Henderson. "We're going to run Claimantakinforgan in the race." As a four-year-old and a filly Daphne Du Clos would have been in receipt of over a stone and consequently she was no bigger than 8-1, and as short as 6-1 in a place, for the festival Grade 1. |
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So you're suggesting I'm making it up then Cash? Interesting.
From attheraces: Setback rules Daphne Du Clos out of Champion Bumper mission Nicky Henderson has ruled Daphne Du Clos out of the Weatherbys Champion Bumper at next week's Cheltenham Festival. Tuesday 07 March 2017News Nicky Henderson has ruled Daphne Du Clos out of the Weatherbys Champion Bumper at next week's Cheltenham Festival. The four-year-old filly had been second favourite for the race behind Willie Mullins' Carter McKay after her easy win in a Listed heat at Newbury last month. She would have been in receipt of all the allowances at Prestbury Park but has picked up a minor problem which has brought her season to a premature end. Henderson tweeted: " Daphne Du Clos has picked up a tiny problem which rules her out of the Cheltenham Bumper. It's a terrible shame but she'll be back next year." |
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Sounds to me like the RP quote means she isn't going to cope with it, considering the small injury she had.
But of course Cash Is King will know best, so will defer to his expert opinion. |
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If Daphne Du Clos has picked up an injury and misses the rest of the season then that's a great shame. Henderson clearly holds the mare in high regard and she's an exciting prospect.
I think it significant that the Harrington horse, Someday, has halved in price in the last few days. Some of that contraction will be down to the announcement of DDC's absence but I think Someday's recent win at Leopardstown was just as impressive as Carter Mckay's win at Naas the day before and Someday's price is now probably where it should have been all along. |
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carter mckay looks like some tool.
the sentimental bet irish roe is interesting. looking at her races I think she's more than just a nice story, she has some serious acceleration. if she wins, given the modest background of her connections, ITV will surely egg it to death. |
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Looks a substandard renewal. Carter Mckay overbet because of Mullins' record in the race and visually taking style of his Naas win. (Gordon Elliott apparently described his horse that Carter Mckay beat that day as a donkey! )
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We are in that phoney war phase when horses shorten simply because some half-cut pundit named them as an each-way shout at a preview night. Anything with four legs and a double-digit price will do.
That said, I'm open to the argument the fav is only the fav because WPM's best two got injured. |
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Best two Ramruna? I think Getabird was their first pick. But pretty sure CM was their second.
He looks a bit short maybe, but I'm suglging to see which horse should be fav if some are suggesting CM shouldn't be. |