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Don't think they can beat DD and Wholestone,and think they could place in the Stayers??
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Very brave about West Approach...I thought he was running past very tired horses in the Cleeve Hurdle; he was beaten twice by Wholestone earlier,...in the Stayers against the seasoned campaigners? A very tall order indeed, owners decision rather than trainer advice, I guess.
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well he was an eyecatcher last time, and connections won the same race last year, so perhaps they want to put up some sort of defence?
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Got a few pounds to make up on Harry re last time.
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yes, but he's a novice and these championship races have a different make up
maybe the better ground will see improvement? anyway I just look at connections, the fact they had the runaway winner last year... that it itself would lead me to the conclusion that it would be dangerous to underestimate west approach |
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Great shout by the OP
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Hoping Ami Desbois can run a big race at a big price. Messire Des Obeaux didn't do the Challow Hurdle form any harm in the Neptune and Ami only has a length to find with Wholestone.
Death Duty will most likely be my RSA horse next year. Not sure what ground Death Duty will want but it seems to be slow, which I think will help him. Had a small saver on Monalee, but hard to see him reversing it with DD last time, but hoping the step up will help him. |
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tough race have had a small interest in Worlds End and Wholestone
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I like Monalee, his defeat by DD last time looked that Monalee was just beginning to get going and went on to beat Battleford easily over 3 miles. DD is the most talented horse in the race but this race isn't necessarily won by that horse, it's a sleeves rolled up grizzled type and Monalee looks like one of them
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death duty exposed as incredibly slow. clearly you need to avoid the bog-lovers at cheltenham. winner was an ex-2 mile hurdle winner and also came from the flat.
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Slow? I thought Death Duty hit the wall and was out on his feet before falling.
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looked outpaced and outstayed
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When you are outstayed it generally means others are going a faster pace
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Death Duty looked as if he did not stay the 3m trip. Hopefully, come next season and a year older he could progress into a serious contender for the JLT or RSA (possibly). Penhill won well.
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What is striking here is how wrong the trainer got this. he was advised that Death Duty was not a 3 miler.
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It will be interesting to see where Death Duty goes next. On today's running I do not think he'd have won either had the race been over 20f instead of 24f; maybe something is amiss.
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Augusta Kate didn't exactly do much for the form either.
Don Cossack went through a period of realtively poor form after looking a machine, but he bounced back to win a Gold Cup so don't give up on him yet. |
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impossible123 17 Mar 17 16:23 Joined: 07 Sep 15 | Topic/replies: 3,518 | Blogger: impossible123's blog
Death Duty looked as if he did not stay the 3m trip. Hopefully, come next season and a year older he could progress into a serious contender for the JLT or RSA (possibly). Penhill won well. hows he going to be aimed at the RSA if he didn't stay 3 miles? |
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Will be a much better chaser, will stay 3 miles easy once it strengthens and progresses
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I personally didn't fancy Death Duty but it was a disappointing run.
Like CR, I think he'll be a much better chaser but he did go out like a light, and a very tired fall at the end. He would have been my RSA horse, but not on the back of that run. The way Elliot spoke about him, he must be a good one, and he might have just had an off day, but it'll be interesting what they do with him trip wise now. |
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The first 2 in the Neptune, Penhill and Constantine Bay are the ones I will be watching for next season.
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penhill ran in the albert bartlett. constantine also ran in the same race and finished fourth.
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Think sage means the first two in the Neptune as well as the other two.
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ok.
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btw penhill owned by tony bloom, probably biggest football punter off all time and owns librisa breeze on the flat. also owns brighton football club.
wonder if he'll get anymore good horses over the next few years. |
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btw think for what it's worth (although according to some on here my opinion is not worth much) I think it would be dangerous to overrate defi du seuil's win.
we've seen hugely impressive triumph winners before that haven't gone on to do much in their next season. our conor springs to mind. even more impressive I would say and I know that while he was fatally injured in the champion hurdle itself he was put in his place before that. the reason for that and why five year olds have a poor record in the champion hurdle is that they simply are much faster in older races than they are in the triumph. There's no way that he will be able to cruise around and win on the bridle in the champion hurdle like he did in the triumph. it's impressed me how much he's improved this season but I really think this defi du seuil will be a big lay next season, whether he goes for the champion hurdle or the arkle. |