id wait till the day Robbie will drift to 5/2 or at least be available at that price on some bookie offers as we get nearer.

He'll go off sub 2/1 IMO, agree visually his last performance looked very good, forget opposition and price, like Douvan, you got the impression you were looking at something special.

its just every man and his dog seems to have already backed it at bigger prices, or that's what the vibe is. At what point do they start to trade out??

Also it seems like there's going to be a bigger field than was anticipated a few weeks ago as well so might be 13/14 runners maybe.... couple that with the first point and I can see the price holding up at least until it gets smashed on course 20 mins before the off.

Impossible just pricing up them three your already at 60% give or take and in a 12-14 runner race i can't see it myself. Min defo will be around 5/2 at some point with Altior around the 5s mark if all the principles stand their ground. There is still plenty of value to be had in this market if your into that sort of thing as no chance the likes of Tombstone, Supasundae, Moon Racer go off anywhere near their current prices! If Yorkhill goes neptune which is expected i think, my tissue on the front 6 is (if the expected average number line up (10-14)

Min 9/4 - Altior 9/2 - BD 7/1 - Tomb 9/1 - Sup 11/1 - MR 12/1

The above is already nearly 90% and given that i need to squeeze in another 4-6 runners you see where i find it hard to believe Min will go off anywhere near as short as 2/1 If the number of runners is on the high side, Min around the 5/2 area and Sup and MR around 14s-16s. Of course this isn't accounting for the many greedy books in the tatts and best mate enclosures betting at ludicrous overrounds to unsuspecting or drunk just out for a day out punters. Above is my guess on the sp's, be interesting to pull this comment back to the front at 1-45 after the race imo am that confident

So what price do you make the rest then Cos your already at 40% from one runner, if 10-12 run what price Altior/BD? I can't include T, S or MR here as if Min is as short as 6/4 then it will be a 3 horse book in a 10 runner race. I like many others would absolutely bite you hand off for 6/1+ Altior and BD especially at 1/4 the odds! Each way thievery anyone

Im on altior at 6-1 e/w , i just know after a few pints our friends from over the see will hammer Min, just think it can only shorten...we will soon find out...i think altior will go off 4-1

2/1 doest look even remotely crazy to me. Hardly a vintage renewal and his form looks rock solid. NJH has the main rivals and his stable form would have to be a worry.

STS, I make your book around 85%, which would give you another 30% to play with on the long un's. That's plenty given there will be a couple of 1-2%ers
I can see Min going off around 7/4 with Altior solid at 9/2 and the others pushed right out. With Altior and BD hailing from the same barn, punters will take a view that one is favoured (probably Altior, though as a BD backer......) meaning the other will drift.
If Min goes as short as 6/4, I'll be a layer and have the field running for me. The last couple of years aside, this race is a graveyard for shorties.

Min was so impressive last time, he tanked through the race and jumped beautifully, saying he tanked, he did so but wasn't taking anything out of himself whatsoever to my eye because Walsh allowed the others to come to him before the home bend but then let the handbrake off again and he powered clear again....not interested in what he beat, better horses wouldn't have altered how he moves and jumps through his race.

I think he'll be close to even money myself and think his performance in the supreme will be similar to what Vautour did, out in front and pummel them into the ground.

duffy - couldnt agree with you more, Id be Evens/Odds-On

the way I see the race going is mins mid race cruising speed getting everything of the bridle coming down the hill before he kicks again coming round the home bend! wins by 5 lengths to a staying on altior with buveur dair 3rd fading late on as they only one that got near him turning in.

I'll be very interested to hear what Tony Mullins has to say about Min. He was gaga over Douvan last year at the preview nights. A lot of BS spoken at these things but some are worth listening to like TM. GL

He surely will be bigger than 2/1 on the day and thats with a run!!!!! Your all listening to the rumours. His form is good but no better than Altior his price is awful and talk of him going off evens is way off the mark.

@RBoyd86 I'm pretty sure some of the Preview Nights are streamed on the internet but the ones Tony Mullins is going to are just small venues like bars so probably nothing. You'll always get a good written synopsis of each night on websites like fatjockeydotcom etc....

Altior scrubed along?? RP described it as shaken up and romped clear and that was off a decent pace. Others in the race are also not without a decent chance which is why the price is so bad. Min is clearly a good horse but 2/1 now is the worst value of the festival, he will be bigger on the day and thats with a run, anyway i wish you luck if its your thing.

If I remember correctly some on here were saying Faugheen would be 7/4 - 2/1 for last years race. I wont bother checking back so as not to embarrass anyone. Min imo will go off very close to evens on the day.

Of course if the mountain of money that came for faugheen last year comes for min it is going to be short, but will it, in a novice race? Really?

Good point joist, good point my friend

of course he won't he hasn't got eye's in his ar$e ye know

STS I'd be amazed if 2/1 was readily available on Faugheen the morning of the race. If so its was to only pennies. At 9.45 on the morning of the race he was 11/10 with a major bookmaker who normally offers better prices than Ladbrokes. In case anyone forgets he went off 4/5. Dunguib went off 4/5 in the 2010 Supreme with 18 runners.