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Zabana - JLT Chase
Zabana - JLT Chase
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4 miler - all day long. Given the conditions it was the perfect trial. That lets Roi Des Franc into the RSA as second string.
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What did Cooper say about Outlander?
Zabana didn't jump well enough. Maybe better on decent ground, but clutching at straws I think. |
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Said he had speed enough for the JLT. That's cos he can't ride it in the 4 miler!
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Outlander beat Kilultagh Vic over Hurdles so must have every chance in the JLT.
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I wasn't entirely downhearted with his performance today, he travelled really well inbetween the fences and I think that he maybe suffered at the fences through Russell not being too bothered today and was left to pop in his own time rather than being fired at them a bit more, as I said he noticeably travelled well though a large part of the race and don't think the way the race ended up for him is a true measure of his ability.
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Don't see why anyone would think 4 miler after hes just won over 2 and a half and quiet impressively given the ground I thought.
JLT for him.NMH RSA and RDF 4 Miler, be surprised any different to that. |
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OK budd, you got me - a bit tongue in cheek, I know.
You are probably right about Outlander - and I know I am in a minority - but what I said was I would LIKE to see him in the 4 miler as I think he is the perfect horse for it. He travels and jumps so well and as today proved, he stays. Today he outstayed 3 milers over two and a half and given better ground I just think he would absolutely trot up in the 4 miler given the way that race is run. He may have the speed for a JLT but I doubt it and I don't think he's in the same class as More Of That if he went to the RSA. I was glad that Willie Mullins mentioned the 4 miler in his ATR interview, but as you say, it IS unlikely. I haven't backed him but if he was confirmed I would be all over it, but I don't think he has a winning chance in the other races. |
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wpm was 1/100 to mention all three races
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Budds got it spot on where the Giggs horses are heading and would be barmy any other way if they all get there.
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ffs smell the coffee this is headed to 4miler
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What about tell us more, rule the world and measure of my dreams, the latter has ability imo
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DECALEC - you should request commission from pp
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No way Outlander goes listed 4 miler imo.
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What about tell us more, rule the world and measure of my dreams, the latter has ability imo
Rate reply: | report block user i wish i could believe in my dreams  |
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They really believe he wont go there, DECALEC - go figure!
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think of last year WPM could have won RSA & 4MILER IF THE O'LEARY'S LISTEN TO THE MAN BEST POSITIONED TO KNOW esp EDDIE WTF WUD he know oh yeah he knows OUTLANDER has absolutely no chance in JLT OR RSA JUST BEING HONEST AND IF HE DOSEN'T KNOW SURE MICK HAS ENOUGH LSD TO FIND OUT JUST DON'T PAY TO FIND OUT AS WELL
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Outlander was impressive to day and the JLT looks perfect IMO. Wouldn't give up on Zabana just yet as he made a mistake at one of the first fences down the back and just seemed to lose confidence after that. However would like to see him gain some more experience but fear it is a little to close to Chelt now to be squeezing in another race.
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Timeform figures for the top 3 in the JLT:
Outlander 150p Kilultagh Vic 148p Bristol De Mai 147p They also Make No More Heroes 155p RSA It would be strange for Gigginstown not to run Outlander when he's Timeform Top rated? |
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Don't think outlander is good enough for the JLT myself, he'd had about enough come the end the other day and after looking to win the race easy, he was actually being closed down again by PA and Monks come the closing stages.
He has a question mark over the ground with him too with regards to better ground, he was doing well in the winter in Ireland last year but was exposed when the festival came along. |
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You maybe right Duffy, but last year he made a mistake 4 out, was slow 3 out and then came about 6 wide around the last bend as he was trying to make up lost ground due to losing his race position and still was only beat 6L back. I think he jumps much better than he hurdles and hopefully won't be out of position this time.
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