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Would Don Poli have beaten Conergree
Would Don Poli have beaten Conergree
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Oh, I'm sure you're right Bud. No doubt they will be competitive in lots of races throughout next season. But the CGC is a unique test and it's rare that horses are able to reproduce their first run in that race. It's always run that half a pace faster than a typical G1 3 mile chase, it's an idiosyncratic track and of course it's a full 500 yards further. I also have a feeling that horses 'remember' that first experience and won't put themselves through it again.
I hope that Coneygree, in particular, can buck that trend, as that was as impressive performance as I've seen for many a year, bar Denmans demolition job. |
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Bit of a nonsense thread really. Don Poli won the RSA on good ground. Coneygree won the Gold Cup on soft ground. Whose was the better performance? - Coneygree's undoubtedly. Will Don Poli be a Gold Cup horse in 2016....almost certainly. I can't believe the crabbing of this horse. Look at his form and tell me what's he's done wrong.....defied all the stats for an RSA winner, beat them hollow and still very unexposed.
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Don Poli is being overrated and it just doesn't fit that he should be worthy of discussion amongst both vautour and coneygree, he's had to work a bit to beat AS over a distance that that horse doesn't stay, he's won an RSA that absolutely fell apart and on reflection time will probably see was a poor one....and he's lazy to boot!!! I'd have thought that the last horse he'd be seen to best effect against is one that sets a strong pace and keeps going!!!
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my view is a gold cup run at a flat out gallop is absolutely don poli territory and experience tells me generally forget about what you have just seen in this year's gold cup and look to the young horses stepping up
amazing how people can see things so different, funny old game  |
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I think Poli looks tailor made but only when he steps up in class will it tell...wonder if willie has thought about chucking him against the big boys before the end of this season, doubt it be fun watching though.
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Having backed Dom Poli I can honestly see he never would have beaten Coneygree in this years GC, although it's possible he could do next year. The GC was run in a terrific time and reliable yardsticks were hammered.
Many Clouds performance in the National adds further credence to the quality of Coneygrees efforts. |
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everybody says Don Poli is LAZY not slow. I agree with that, but on top of that I think he lacks the class to win a GC, especially this year. You put him in `14 renewal and I can see him thereabouts but last year and this season he'll simply be outclassed, not outstayed as he can stay the GN trip very well. I think thats the next wise step with him, just as it was with Many Clouds.
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Coming up that hill on a gruelling track will play into Dom Poli's strengths.
With no Coneygree this year (who I think would win again) I think he wins it. Those who dismiss him as a plodder are way off the beaten track. He takes time to get going but he is no plodder. |
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Agree with that Charwell. Also from the belief that Coneygree would have helped Poli's claims. Going such a gallop for so long would only enhance Poli's ability to out stay the rest of the field
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most people thought last years gold cup was looking pretty average before the race,coneygree's trainer even said the gold cup might be easier than taking on don poli
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