Cheltenham Festival
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The Macgheen!
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Classic example of a horse just not quite quick enough for the very best over 2m. Would be great to see a 2m4f race on the Friday, perhaps with a £1m bonus to see if the CH winner could be attracted from earlier in the week.
Good horse but any doubt on it being 'unlucky' was settled for sure today |
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Unlucky to have a trainer running him on heavy ground and
his son on board god help him |
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Awful ride again
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unlucky that the CH isn't run right handed where he would be able to get a place.
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Different year and shaky performance LTO.
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Bit unfair to say it was an awful ride imo. Was instructed to follow Faugheen and he did just that til the 2nd last. Wasn't good enough. Simples.
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New one should have took up the running when they went a crawl for over half way, was never gonna have the speed of faugheen hid only chance was to go a strong gallop, jockey fault
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Watched an interview before the race and Ntd said the plan was to stay behind Faugheen. Can't blame jockey for following instructions imo.
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In that case the plan was an overwhelming success - he DID stay behind Faugheen!!!
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Very disappointing to get beaten by all three of the Mullins team. I went to Chelts today and it seemed that the English horses were only there to make up the numbers apart from The Druids Nephew who prevented yet another Irish 1-2 in the handicap and Irish Cavalier may have been trained in Wales but at least it restricted Ireland to 5 out of 7. It was a bit like watching our cricket team. If you score the races 3 points win, 2 points second and 1 for third the result was Ireland 25, England 14, Wales 3.
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Its ridiculous to say the rider cost him the race. They could run the race 100 times and he would not win it
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I thought AP & STD rode shockers, allowed Fagheen to slow it to a crawl throughout. Not saying it would had made any difference to the result but it was pretty poor to allow the slow pace but world class by ruby and made them look stupid.
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"The Nearly One" from now on me thinks, shame.
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It's just another example of the adage that it is dangerous to make excuses. Too many people looked for something last year and they looked in the wrong place. Many of us said they shouldn't have been looking at the interference but at the fact that he was in a good position at the top of the hill and lack of tactical speed was what undid him far more than the interference. History repeated itself today but it happened later because they didn't kick as early.
The best horse doesn't usually lose the race. For example, if Douvan had lost today there would have been a lot of people pointing to the fact that he didn't settle early The facts is he was the best horse and so nobody is commenting on it. I was one who backed L'Ami Serge and yes he got hampered down the back straight and slowed up in traffic on the run downhill but it would be foolhardy to think he was the best horse in the race and but for that things would have been different. They wouldn't. |
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TNO was very unluckly last year,watching that race makes it clear to see.
This year he was beaten by a much better horse than we had last year,as was last years champion. |
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Im no STD fan, but how could you blame him for that? Horse simply not quick enough for 2m at championship pace.
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They all played into Ruby's hands. Two of them were riding to instructions from the same trainer leaving AP and STD to either take Ruby on or sit behind him. They were both wrong with hindsight but would it have made any difference?
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No,don't think so mate,looked to me that hes simply a lot better horse.
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The new one, would not of won no matter how the race was run, nor would any of the other runners. Mullins and Walsh were confident of that and they could ride Faugheen however they wanted and he'd win.. Infact he's form suggests if he'd gone harder he'd of won by further, so why go slow?
Answer Hurricane Fly, in a fast run race his chance would of been badly effected, but in a slow run race, he'd have a much better chance against the others. We know Jezki and The New One needed a fast pace, so make sure they don't get it! #conspiracytheroy. |
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Not saying Faugheen wasn't the best horse, just that having three runners gives a stable a big advantage over the rest as Aiden O'B repeatedly demonstrates on the flat.
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Should really be a chaser by now - shame
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Budd
No doubt he was beaten by the better horse. That isn't the issue. He was beaten by other horses and did exactly what he did last year in that at a crucial stage he got outspeeded and then began to stay on again. He simply lacks the tactical speed to go with that surge when it comes on. |
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Ive said my opinion on TNO last year and this year.
I stick by the opinion that last year he lost the race with the incident,and this year he was not good enough against a much better horse than we had last year.Yes,he could not go when Faugheen went,nor could Jezki,Fly,and only Arctic Fire could get anywhere near the winner.So they all got outpaced at the crucial time. To be honest I have had enough of the debate on TNO. |
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Whatever view you take on The New One last year (I think he would have won it), there's no doubt this year that he was a stone below his best.
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He is a good horse but does seem to struggle when up against the cream.
You need luck in this game and he certainly never got any in last years race.Sometimes you only get one chance at landing the big one. Will he be staying hurdling? |
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Nothing over here to beat him just once a year he comes up against the best. Shame we dont seem to see them clash anymore, pre cheltenham.
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kissing spine problem
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Is that why it can't jump ?
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Yes, basically.
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So it's been injured for 2 year lol
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^^^ they never said that.
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of course an injured spine wont affect his jumping, it won,t even hurt
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rolls eyes sarcastically
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Word has it that connections had quite the fallout as horse was known to not be 100% before the Festival but the majority refused to withdraw. Be very surprised if he sports the same silks next season.
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Was that the reason for the drift a week or 2 before the race ?
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In my opinion yes.
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according to my stats he will hose up next year
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Howdi you need to check out those stats again.
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