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I know I know....but.....he's just too big of a price at 33/s, I'm sure he'll be supported on the day, he's priced up on his poor form through the winter but even after a poor run into last years festival he ran a really good race on the day, just watching it again now and concentrating on him rather than all the fanfare for the front two it's better than many would have remembered.
He travelled pretty much as good as anything through the race and led at the last before AP and MOT went past but he beat the rest well enough and in this years race there is nothing IMO better than those two, they'd be comfortably 1st and 2nd favs if they were in this year.
He's priced up on all his admittedly poor form through the past two winters but at Cheltenham he hasn't been out of the frame in 6 runs, yes you have to forgive him his winter form but he's shown that he can bounce back to run well in the big one before and with a possible change of head gear in the offing which may help as well he's way over-priced relative to the opposition as a 33/1 e/w bet.
He travelled pretty much as good as anything through the race and led at the last before AP and MOT went past but he beat the rest well enough and in this years race there is nothing IMO better than those two, they'd be comfortably 1st and 2nd favs if they were in this year.
He's priced up on all his admittedly poor form through the past two winters but at Cheltenham he hasn't been out of the frame in 6 runs, yes you have to forgive him his winter form but he's shown that he can bounce back to run well in the big one before and with a possible change of head gear in the offing which may help as well he's way over-priced relative to the opposition as a 33/1 e/w bet.
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Cant jump.
Hasn't ran well in over 18 months.
Doesn't finish his races.
Beaten fair and square in the race last year.
Gone at the game.
Not one for me.
Hasn't ran well in over 18 months.
Doesn't finish his races.
Beaten fair and square in the race last year.
Gone at the game.
Not one for me.
I had a bit of 25s before his last race when I figured he was nailed on at the weights. 
As bad as that was, I'd have to agree that 33/1 does seem a bit big.
As bad as that was, I'd have to agree that 33/1 does seem a bit big.
Hasn't ran well in over 18 months.
He ran well at Cheltenham and Aintree last year. Though I'd agree he's been shocking this season.
He ran well at Cheltenham and Aintree last year. Though I'd agree he's been shocking this season.
Agreed AC
he ran well in the race last year, and did so on the back of a poor season, so my point is that he's proved that poor early season form can be overcome....a similar run in the race to last year's and 7/1 to place is more than fair.
he ran well in the race last year, and did so on the back of a poor season, so my point is that he's proved that poor early season form can be overcome....a similar run in the race to last year's and 7/1 to place is more than fair.
an attractive price if you ignore this seasons form and could well place at least
11123 is his Cheltenham record
3rd in this last year behind More of That & Annie Power.They don't run this year
Will def stay the trip
Will have first time blinkers on.
Seen a lot worse 33/1 shots
3rd in this last year behind More of That & Annie Power.They don't run this year
Will def stay the trip
Will have first time blinkers on.
Seen a lot worse 33/1 shots
one of the great things about the forums is the fact that every now and again someone will come up with something that was not apparent at first glance and I think duffy could well be onto something here , it is generally assumed after this seasons runs that at fishers cross is a bigger dog than rin tin tin but his Cheltenham form is a different story,course form figures of 11123 is not too shabby plus this seasons form especially in the green and gold coulours can be readily ignored for obvious reasons ,what could be very significant is the fitting of the headgear which could be the key to this horse and looking back at the stats horses fitted with aids first time have a decent record ,the latent ability is there and has decent form in the book stays the trip has festival form and in a very open race ,,a big run could be in the offing, 33s nrnb looks decent value if you can ignore this seasons form ,well spotted duffy and good luck, I am on .
I just think this horse has lost interest or is still suffering when racing
Going on last years performance, yes the price looks tempting... but he has been shocking this season and it would have to be a dire renewal for him to feature
Going on last years performance, yes the price looks tempting... but he has been shocking this season and it would have to be a dire renewal for him to feature
he may have been dire this season but like this owners handicap plot horses previous form is not always relevant to what will produced on the big day and at the prices worth the chance imo
Good luck to faithful on this horse ,
Drove me crazy
I took the risk 50s SIDS offered few weeks ago !
Let's hope it spring Cheltenham form holds up
Over the cliff with him like many !
Drove me crazy
I took the risk 50s SIDS offered few weeks ago !
Let's hope it spring Cheltenham form holds up
Over the cliff with him like many !
The race is dire, i wish they would just front run him, he clearly doesnt jump or have a turn of foot. AP keeps riding him like he is top class which is shocking by AP standards.
zarkandar will win the world hurdle imo, nf will keep hold of him until jumping the last as he dosses once in front
have just watched last seasons world hurdle again (several times )and afc jumped and travelled so much better than usual , led before the last and run out of it by 2 very good horses who wont be in this years field . like this horse most of the field have questions to answer but a lot are at shorter prices than this fella .
i've just watched last years race also and fishers cross could definitely be described as over priced !!!!!
i'm very happy with my position on zarkandar tho
i'm very happy with my position on zarkandar tho
After his last run im astounded its even running at Cheltenham let alone people backing it! Looks to have fallen out of love with the game
I'm on ew at 40s.
I'd totally ignore his last run at Haydock, ground was atrocious and anything held up struggled that day, see The New One. Stable was also out of form, Teaforthree ran a poor race aswell on the same card. Trainer had a winner last week.
I'd totally ignore his last run at Haydock, ground was atrocious and anything held up struggled that day, see The New One. Stable was also out of form, Teaforthree ran a poor race aswell on the same card. Trainer had a winner last week.
it should not be forgotten that at fishers beat a certain the new one (current 2nd fav for the chsmp hurdle ) in the Neptune a few years back
Bit mistaken there my friend,AFC won the Albert Bartlett,TNO won the Neptune mate.
you must excuse me ! all this chasing and arresting khoonts in the hastings area can play tricks on an old detectives mind !
fair form .... the new one ,coneygree ,and whisper behind
Àll 33/1 be gone soon
Can see this starting about 12/1 on the day !
Can see this starting about 12/1 on the day !
I have seen this before.Lots struggled to let Grans Crus go.
Back legs are wrecked with arthritus. If he was sound physically he'd have been one of the greats staying hurdlers, Shame but that's how it goes. Won't win as can't go through with a effort anymore as it's too painful.
Certainly wont be carrying my money and i backed him throughout his novice season and thought he was the 2nd coming until out of novice division when in hindsight he had run in a poor novice season.
A bigger price than the lesser spotted Pont Alexandre. When did anyone last see this mythical creature?
Are people on drugs, At Fishers Cross?????? I can jump a hurdle more fluently than AFC. Frustrating because it had so much promise
Horses for courses !!! Maybe drugs !
Wouldn't like to see anythink else pulled out at front end of the market
There reroute the mare !
Wouldn't like to see anythink else pulled out at front end of the market
There reroute the mare !
Since he lost his confidence in his first run of last season, he hasn't been able to jump and is very ponderous and unnatural at his hurdles in small field, slow run races at other courses. In a bigger field at a championship pace at his favourite course he will have less time to think and therefore will be better than he has shown all season, like last year when he posted his best run in the World Hurdle.
Suspect he may be gone but he is priced up on being rubbish at Haydock, etc, not on what he can do in a fast run race at Cheltenham. He isn't an 8/1 shot but 33s about an AP ridden horse where the combination got placed last year isn't disgraceful. There are worse bets in the race at shorter prices.
Suspect he may be gone but he is priced up on being rubbish at Haydock, etc, not on what he can do in a fast run race at Cheltenham. He isn't an 8/1 shot but 33s about an AP ridden horse where the combination got placed last year isn't disgraceful. There are worse bets in the race at shorter prices.
Could be a different proposition with first time blinkers also
if you yourself have lost your confidence for whatever reason . you look at others around you as being giants yourself small and you never get that original fluidity back . you run with neverousness and are apprehensive until the point you are pushed and then you just wing at em hail mary . afc will end up a dead horse .if pushed . i never saw a horse truly get a confidence back . just like human beings if your nerves are shot they are shot . and if my nerves are shot and im being asked to go over the top im gonna do it . my heart will be racing my head will be full of dread and adrenalin coursing through my veins . how in the hell can i win given all that. when a less exposed horse has not experienced such trauma and has all the advantages of cardio vasc , youth , naivety etc . its a given that this horses best days are in the past . just think about it from his point of view .
christ I hope you haven't got access to any dangerous weapons
Not for me,he looks a goner. At least showed something prior to race ly. Agree race is rubbish so looked for a poss big improver and the one I like ran in the haddock race. Seeyouatmidnight. Not fit,improved massively from1st to 2nd run ly.sky could be the limit . 40/1 rather than 33/1 afs. Has sandy Thompson had a festival runner .? Let alone winner?
lol bedtime now but wanted to have a look at thoughts of cheltenham and like so many racing fans afc is a enigma and i just looked at it from what i considered to be the horses point of view as he cant speak ! ...... best of luck
gpz6316
09 Mar 15 00:20
if you yourself have lost your confidence for whatever reason . you look at others around you as being giants yourself small and you never get that original fluidity back . you run with neverousness and are apprehensive until the point you are pushed and then you just wing at em hail mary . afc will end up a dead horse .if pushed . i never saw a horse truly get a confidence back . just like human beings if your nerves are shot they are shot . and if my nerves are shot and im being asked to go over the top im gonna do it . my heart will be racing my head will be full of dread and adrenalin coursing through my veins . how in the hell can i win given all that. when a less exposed horse has not experienced such trauma and has all the advantages of cardio vasc , youth , naivety etc . its a given that this horses best days are in the past . just think about it from his point of view .
Fook me, if AFC is feeling this bad I dread to think how bad Josses Hill is sleeping at night.
09 Mar 15 00:20
if you yourself have lost your confidence for whatever reason . you look at others around you as being giants yourself small and you never get that original fluidity back . you run with neverousness and are apprehensive until the point you are pushed and then you just wing at em hail mary . afc will end up a dead horse .if pushed . i never saw a horse truly get a confidence back . just like human beings if your nerves are shot they are shot . and if my nerves are shot and im being asked to go over the top im gonna do it . my heart will be racing my head will be full of dread and adrenalin coursing through my veins . how in the hell can i win given all that. when a less exposed horse has not experienced such trauma and has all the advantages of cardio vasc , youth , naivety etc . its a given that this horses best days are in the past . just think about it from his point of view .
Fook me, if AFC is feeling this bad I dread to think how bad Josses Hill is sleeping at night.
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