Worst Value Bet

Don Poli is an absolute shocker imo and Don Cossack I wouldn't back with yours

how would you price up the champion hurdle market blarney?

It's not just Mr Mole - all Nicholls' horses are shorter than they should be due to his outstanding saturday record. Most of his festival horses have already disappointed at Cheltenham - Dodgy Bullets stuffed in the Arkle, Silviniaco beaten in back to back Gold Cups, Zarkandar annually beaten at Cheltenham,
Even his Coral Cup horse Aux Ptits Soins has been backed blind into favourtism. Fantastic trainer and a master at targeting races all season long - but a terrible recent festival record.

Zarkander won a Triumph so not true to say he is beaten annually. Yes Dodging Bullets has not done it at the festival I'd not touch him or Mr Mole, Conti is debatable for me too short but I feel he can win.

Nicholls will do ok at the festival.

Douvan is a ludicrous price as is Faugheen. The Mullins hype is crazy. Even though I've backed a couple of his I'd love for him to draw a blank with his stable every one of whom he has stated is a super star. We will see but every runner he has is too short.

Win Only Market would be 8/11 Faugheen 9/4 The New One 7/1 Jezki 14/1 Hurricane Fly 25/1 Arctic Fire 50/ Kitten Rock.

Not sure if there will be many more runners......

I just think Faugheen looks outstanding this season and is easily the pick of Miss Marples horses ( http://interactive.wxxi.org/files/images/highlights/Marple_0.JPG). The New One can be forgiven his run the last day where connections only wanted to do the minimum. As it turned out, he had to dig deep to win. This race is his target however, and a different horse is expected to turn up on the day.

Hurricane Fly does not get home with a true end to end gallop at this track imo. He has looked good picking off his opposition on bad ground throughout his career where races are tactical and although he is a wonderful horse in his own right, I believe he cannot cope against stamina horses with the pace for 2 miles. Aged 11 now, he is likely to be overlooked by Ruby Walsh.

Jezki will not have the services of Barry Geraghty this year and I honestly think he is 3 or 4 lengths worse off. I make it more of a match between the market leaders and that means the rest should, in my opinion, be a longer price to win.

Douvan is a shocking price because we all got on at decent prices and the bookies have massive liabilities - same with Faugheen. that's bookmaking - if you missed the prices just back something else rather than moan about it being short.
The Nicholl's horses are just bad value regardless of price. Backing Taquin De Seuil for a handicap will prove to be shocking value when he rocks up in the Ryanair.

I stated clearly I had backed TDS for the Ryanair but it doesn't cloud my judgement that Jonjo will run  where he thinks the horse has the best chance. Well done on giving the bookies huge liabilities on Douvan, they had them on Dunguib, Cue Card, MTOY as well. I have Faugheen at 8's but if it meant Mullins had no winners on the week I'd happily lose. You know where every horse runs so please post it up and help the forum out.

You've backed Faugheen at 8's but you'd happily lose?? Right.

It's not a big bet I doubt the bookies are quaking at my less than huge liability.

Jezki is overpriced and Mr. Mole seems about right imo. Faugheen, Douvan and Peace and Co are far too short.

Blarney, Hurricane Fly is as strong a stayer as there is in the CH. You have to forgive his run last year - there was something obviously amiss as he has proved 3 times already this year. Hard to expect an 11yo to win a CH but if if its ever going to be done again, this freak is the one to do it. One thing's for certain - he will be staying on better than anything. Faugheen an 8-11 shot...in your dreams!

nothing was amiss with the Fly last year

Blarney, Hurricane Fly is as strong a stayer as there is in the CH. You have to forgive his run last year - there was something obviously amiss as he has proved 3 times already this year.

Yes, the ground wasn't soft enough for him.

Jezki will go off about 3/1 so he ain't bad value is he

Jezki will not go off at 3/1 or anything like it.

Ok then 2/1

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cant see how jezki is underpriced! reigning champion ,spring horse jess has campaigned him similar to last season ,we know he can battle it out up the hill and is a backable price only negative is bjg is not on board .

foyleswar, one question please, how is jezki a spring horse?

Because it wins in the spring,jezki will be around 4s on the day !

Unbeaten in the spring out of novice company

So if Jezki 4s what price TNO because no juice in his price and he won't carry any Irish money either.

7-2 the new one,11-8 faugheen

nothing personal cufno1 , but i just dont get that. 3rd behind champagne fever in 2013 supreme novice. fair enough won 2014 ch.V good punchestown record but thats just a 2 year window. call me a cynic if u want but i dont believe he's any better in march than he is in nov/dec/jan

He is a better horse on spring ground,going to be dry up until Cheltenham,personally think nothing will beat faugheen,all over jezki last year,jezki is half a stone better on decent ground

Shark Hanlon to be top trainer at 16/1 with Boils

dont agree at all. He is a very good horse but the fly is better, and is not ground dependant. wherever jezki finishes this year, it'll be behind the fly.

Hurricane fly is a soft ground horse,jezki will beat him again if the word good is in the going description,neither will beat the machine

I would have some of that in a match bet.Good ground and a furious pace kills the Fly.I can see horses that are running to try and place at best finishing in front of the Fly.

Jezki is about the best example of a spring horse you could ever wish to find! I'd be shocked if he doesn't finish in front of Fly.

The fly won 5 punchestown festivals in a row..... is he a spring horse too??? Its nonsense to say jezki improves in the spring.... hes a very good horse as i've said before, whatever the season...... the fly did not perform at cheltenham or punchestown last year- and jezki did..... but dont assume that that means the same thing will happen again.... they are not machines. The fly has shown 3 times this year that he's still a better horse than jezki....but to assume that jezki will improve past him just because thats what happened last year is plain silly

Worst value is probably DOUVAN, there are 3 or 4 likely sorts against him, and 7/4 means all the juice is squeezed out, even before the Irish unleash their on-course cash.

SILVINIACO CONTI at 7/2, with 8/1 bar including all the 1st time Gold Cup runners is understandable if it were at Kempton, but at Cheltenham could look short too, halfway up the hill finish.

Don Poli, I repeat, is an ABSOLUTE SHOCKER.

Slow as ****

Don't see how 9/1 The Fly is poor value on form. Unbeaten in three grade one's this season, two times champion hurdler and twice placed, apparently has not regressed.... 9/1 looks slightly overpriced to me. Now i'm not saying he will win it, but purely on the book and putting aside excuses and "Potential" he's as good a chance as any.

@Rathgorman correct Fly is overpriced, the mighty Hatton's Grace was 13/2 at his 4th attempt when 12yo and came into the race from an unplaced effort at Naas so in much worser form than Fly who comes into the race looking better than ever. Fly should be 6/1 or shorter!

Don poli will win next week and go close in the gold cup next year,jumps,travels,and finds off the bridle !

Don Poli :

Ain't been since since December
Only had 2 runs
He's that good they don't even know if he is an RSA or a 4m horse
He is only 6

A shocker of a favourite

The end of December,if it had ran a few days later would you fancy it,do you think apache stronghold and wounded warrior are bad horses