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rogerthebutler
06 Feb 15 14:43
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...just in time for Cheltenham.

His entries are getting even greater scrutiny than usual now!
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Report zilzal1 February 6, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
Ive one of his as a bet..not quoted as such in the handicap i want it in..but in another one...ill wait for the switch...  ;-)
Report Ekbalco February 6, 2015 5:09 PM GMT
Couldn't lie straight in bed.
Report zilzal1 February 6, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
Mian Bound needs around a 8lb rise to get in the pertempts....
Report zilzal1 February 6, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
or even Milan...
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 6, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
So he qualified with his 8th place then zilzal ?

Looks like he could well be trying for his life tomorrow.
Report zilzal1 February 6, 2015 6:29 PM GMT
yep.... early 11-2 into general 3s....
Report FOYLESWAR February 6, 2015 8:52 PM GMT
great to see jonjos back in form !
Report wellchief February 7, 2015 10:24 AM GMT
Not a stable I will ever like to be honest.  I could never back one of his with any confidence because some magically improve stones for good ground and Cheltenham, and some don't.

He also gets away with loads of his running shockers in the winter, but all is soon forgiven when he gets a few winners at Cheltenham.

I hate when he has horses that run well below their best so they can be a long term plot too.  I don't know if that's his decision or the owner (usually JP) but it annoys me when one hoses up at the festival, when you look at their form and it's 09P8 or something like that.
Report buddeliea February 7, 2015 10:45 AM GMT
Yep, spot on Chief.
Report harry callaghan February 7, 2015 10:53 AM GMT
his horses are clearly nice and fresh after a light season...nice to see them all starting to hit the target frequently tbh, it should be a good end of season for him now and he clearly backed off his string when all wasn't well with them...lets hope he reaps the rewards now for that patience shown earlier in the season, it clearly wasn't a easy time for the stable
Report Joist February 7, 2015 11:47 AM GMT
However Chief - it's no secret that his will improve plenty for the Spring air and Prestbury Park - so regardless of form figures, just consider all Jonjo beasts IMO. If we know they're dodgy through the Winter, then naturally avoid them. But when we also know that they'll be primed for big Spring festivals having had their true form hidden through the Winter, then it's time to make hay imo.
Report FOYLESWAR February 7, 2015 11:59 AM GMT
spot on  joist !
Report wellchief February 7, 2015 12:17 PM GMT
I think you are taking a huge leap of faith though mate, and are backing blind to some extent.

You are backing in the hope that he will improve them, but you don't know that until the Tuesday.

Maybe backing his on the Friday if he is having a good festival but in the early races you are simply hoping that because he did it last year he'll do it again.

I'd rather back them with the form in the book and are steadily improving throughout the year.

Suppose everyone is different.
Report FOYLESWAR February 7, 2015 12:34 PM GMT
you may be right of course wellchief but the signs of a revival are there and a whole lot more encouraging than a few months back when he was bang out of form ,on the plus side his festival  horses have not had much  racing this winter in slogs or battles in heavy ground and that could count for a lot in march . just watched holywells win at Aintree and he showed an impressive turn of foot between the last 2 fences to put daylight to him and what now looks to be a usefull field don Cossack and many clouds well behind who have both come out this season  and made th form look usefull  thought it was an impressive win ,likely ground conditions at the festival  could be in his favour
Report sintonian February 8, 2015 3:33 PM GMT
Some people were touting him for Champion Trainer at the start of the season.Crazy
Report Ekbalco February 15, 2015 8:05 PM GMT
Jonjo is JP's puppet and we all know the modus operandi behind the yard.

What they get away with over the season is shocking(another at Market Rasen today).

How they are not hauled in front of the Stewards almost day in day out is a mystery.
Report charlieptl February 15, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
I think the wheels are back on. I really like Johns Spirit for the Ryanair.
Report Swardean February 15, 2015 9:19 PM GMT
I thought Kelvingrove was given a soft one in the pertemps qualifier at Haydock yesterday.  Now qualified to run  but currently on 130 he may have undercooked this one, and surprised if he gets in off this mark.

Nice young horse though and decent prize in this one over 3miles
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