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stewarty b
02 Feb 15 19:51
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Why would one take the 2/1 on here, (less commission) when it's freely 2/1 available with the books?  Any thoughts on it's chances welcome.
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Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 7:54 PM GMT
Oops, never noticed the race already has a thread but the original question stands.
Report FOYLESWAR February 2, 2015 7:58 PM GMT
when atr were at mullins yard a few months back it seemed as though ruby and willie had a lot of time for this one ,very enthusiastic about it ! seemed to me as tho this was the apple of their eye so to speak ,problem is price gone and not 100%sure wether supreme or Neptune !
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 8:08 PM GMT
If it bolts up in at Leopardstown,( Deloitte Novice Hurdle (Grade 1) ) I'm guessing it will be a 5/4 chance. I might just lump on this beast a 2s whilst available.



PS the 'lump on' means visiting a few 'bookmakers'...
Report GAZO February 2, 2015 8:15 PM GMT
think the owner was also very keen on this one
Report cufcno1 February 2, 2015 8:27 PM GMT
They only started bigging this up when allez columbieres died !
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 8:32 PM GMT
No matches were found for allez columbieres??
Report cufcno1 February 2, 2015 8:34 PM GMT
What do you mean?
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 8:40 PM GMT
Is it the name of a horse?
Report cufcno1 February 2, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
It was favourite for the race before Xmas,supposedly one of the best they ever had,rich ricci talked in glowing terms about it,it got injured and died,can't believe you never heard of it !
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 8:51 PM GMT
can't believe you never heard of it




The name rings a bell but your pronunciation isn't on the RP database.
Report giggsy3444 February 2, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
Don't be s dick STEWARTY B!
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 9:08 PM GMT
Trust me, that's the last thing on my mind. Anyways, I'm backing this beast and my impression is that it hasn't came out of third gear. GL on whatever your selection is.
Report stevo1 February 2, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
See original and no bullshit thread on Douvan.
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
Thanks stevo 1. Never did my homework here, re:threads.
Report Can't Catch Me February 2, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
It was spelt Allez Colombieres.

Have to say, it doesn't feel like a worthwhile reservation, but that's mine as well. Same owner / trainer combo have a horse they make no secret about being their number one Supreme chance, then when he sadly dies, they have another one just as good. This horse wasn't mentioned much until a couple of months ago.

Doesn't look a vintage renewal, but I think he's a shocking price.
Report stewarty b February 2, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
Thanks for you input CCM,
Report alleged22 February 2, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
They only started bigging this up when allez columbieres died !


were they expecting a one two,  total hype brigade...
Report Rathgorman82 February 3, 2015 9:44 AM GMT
I had a little on Douvan at 12s when Allez C was still alive and kicking based on some info I read that connections held this fella in equally high regard.
Report oneyallbeenwaiting4 February 3, 2015 10:26 AM GMT
Douvan has one chance, no chance.
Report GAZO February 3, 2015 10:27 AM GMT
why?
Report stewarty b February 4, 2015 7:55 PM GMT
Tempted to stick a few quid on Douvan but 2/1 on here (less commission) yet still 2/1 with the books. (two of them going 9/4....)
Report delsie777 February 9, 2015 8:23 PM GMT
oneyallbeenwaiting4 03 Feb 15 10:26 Joined: 04 Jun 12 | Topic/replies: 196 | Blogger: oneyallbeenwaiting4's blog
Douvan has one chance, no chance

Is this the guy who has recently set a new record for tipping consecutive losers?
Report sintonian February 9, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
Took 9/2 on L'ami Serge on Saturday..might be bigger on the day but he could go off favourite too. Jollys Cracked was thumped 14 lengths by him at Sandown and was again beaten 14 lengths in the Newbury Hurdle on Saturday but made a bad mistake at the second flight and was always struggling after that, he did well to get 5th! L'ami would have smashed that field.
Report sintonian February 9, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
* Jollys Cracked It
Report sintonian February 9, 2015 8:51 PM GMT
Jolly's Cracked It (FR) 16/1    6    11-3     Harry Fry    140    *    *   
Nick Scholfield
   
Behind, mistake 4th, stayed on from 2 out
Report alleged22 February 9, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
sporting life race report



Held up well in rear, plugged on from 2 out, went modest 5th run-in Plain
Report Paterson92 February 9, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
Yes, Douvan is too short at 2/1. Yes, Douvan will likely be a bigger price on the day and yes, it was a field of 3 milers he beat last time out BUT people seem to forget that L'Ami Serge was neck and neck with Paul Nicholl's horse Emerging Talent and you could even argue that Emerging Talent was going the better of the two and would certainly have been an interesting finish had he not fell 2 out leaving L'ami well clear. The form of that has not worked out one bit, Emerging Talent is not Supreme quality and I'm surprised more people do not pick up on this.
Report Tucho February 10, 2015 7:49 AM GMT
Anybody worried about quicker spring ground for him? I read something about Douvan showing a bit of knee action, and then saw this about his sire.

Douvan is by Walk In The Park. A son of Montjeu, the 2005 Derby runner-up is emerging as a distinct soft-ground influence.

With his eldest progeny now six, Walk In The Park has sired the winners of 10 jumps races; five were achieved on ground officially described as heavy, three on soft and two on what the French term very soft. Food for thought.
Report stewarty b February 10, 2015 6:27 PM GMT
Betting very strange as I type..
Report Wicketd February 10, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
Completely disagree Paterson. Emerging Talent always tanks along and is clearly classy, just immature imo. that's going some way to put down L'ami Serge.
Report stewarty b February 10, 2015 7:03 PM GMT
When I last typed there was no money for Douvan on the back side. Peanuts at 5.9 now. Anybody got any up to date information please?
Report PeteTheBloke February 10, 2015 7:35 PM GMT
Last price matched 6.2.

Something fishy going on.
Report PeteTheBloke February 10, 2015 7:51 PM GMT
Still 6/4 at PP. There can't be a lot wrong.
Report stewarty b February 10, 2015 8:01 PM GMT
Hope not.
Report stewarty b February 10, 2015 8:03 PM GMT
Backed it at 2s for the supreme. Hasn't came out of third gear yet. (IMHO)
Report PeteTheBloke February 10, 2015 8:07 PM GMT
I think it's probably someone clicked the wrong side. The thing is, Twitter turns every rumour into
a crisis. Maybe someone's trying to get a decent bet on at 9/4 Laugh
Report sintonian February 10, 2015 9:11 PM GMT
Even so Alleged, both reports say he did not get the best of paths during the race and he still managed 5th.
Report stewarty b February 16, 2015 3:48 PM GMT
Money coming for Douvan now on here. A pleasing sign from my perspective.
Report Fallen Angel February 16, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
Forfeit stage tomorrow so after that we should have a better idea of where the various protagonists might be turning up. Although I would imagine WM might leave them all in their various races until the last minute
Report sintonian February 16, 2015 7:16 PM GMT
He will FA. The names escapes me now but he had a horse a couple of seasons ago which fell at the first or second flight and then ran in one of the other novice hurdles later in the week. All his horses will have block entries.
Report Can't Catch Me February 16, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
Spot on Sint. Biggest certainty of the week.
Report Fallen Angel February 16, 2015 7:24 PM GMT
at least a lot of the chaff will be removed from the markets which should tighten them up a bit. It isn't helpful to look at the %s and have to exclude 60 non-runners to work out what the betfair book looks like, to me the Supreme with NC excluded looks about 103% or less at current prices
Report SoYouThink February 16, 2015 8:05 PM GMT
I would much rather be on Nichols Canyon or Tell Us More at their current odds for the Supreme instead of Douvan at his odds. Of course if we knew both of those would be running, they'd probably be a lot shorter.
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