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SoYouThink
28 Jan 15 20:56
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Is PaddyPower having a laugh with these odds?

Ruby Walsh is 4/7, Bryan Cooper is 10/1. That is outrageous value on Cooper. If Walsh has the potential to have a better book of rides then, then it's just barely better. There is no way Cooper should be behind Geraghty and McCoy in the betting.

Look at Gigginstown's horses. In the championship races, Cooper can ride Tiger Roll, Bright New Dawn, Lieutenant Colonel & Road To Riches. Don Cossack in the Ryanair.
In the novice hurdles, he has Identity Thief, Milsean, Outlander, No More Heroes, Tell Us More, McKinley & Sub Lieutenant to pick from.
The novice chases: Clarcam, Don Poli, Valseur Lido, Wounded Warrior, Very Wood & Rule The World potential runners in any of the 3 novices open to pro-jockeys.
Also compare what Mullins will have well handicapped for Ruby and what the likes of Elliott, Martin and Mouse Morris could have coming in under the radar. A lot more potential for Cooper to get win a handicap on a Gigginstown runner in a handicap I would think.
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Report Benjy January 28, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
I agree with the selection but the trouble is all of Coopers are going to be a reasonable price. At what point does it become better value to back the horses in multiples than the top jockey single.

How many winners are we thingking; 4?
Report Benjy January 28, 2015 9:17 PM GMT
Ruby is highly likely to have at least two on the board after the first day as well. And it's probably Cooper's worst atm. May be a better bet after that...
Report firstimevisor January 28, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
Townend interesting at 50s(not quoted at up to 33s). If Ruby got knocked out he'll be evens tops.Probably wont happen but not a 50-1 shot either
Report stevo1 January 28, 2015 10:36 PM GMT
You gonna knock him out then? He should be 50s at least
Report ThunderRoad January 29, 2015 11:26 AM GMT
Indeed, given how injury prone Ruby can be, Townend must be the bet @ 50/1.
Report bluebirdfan January 29, 2015 2:43 PM GMT
Hold your never, he'll be a bigger price after day one. His winners will come later in the week
Report deepingfox January 29, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
Agreed - Coopers winners come later in the week, back him after day 1. I am already primed to do that.
Report alleged22 January 29, 2015 10:59 PM GMT
if coopers 10-1 now that price will only get bigger and has to be a good bet as the week goes on Happy
Report Desmond Orchard January 30, 2015 1:06 PM GMT
Whoooa, hold your horses boys. If you fancy Cooper, you might do better waiting til the Weds/Thurs.
Report Roger The Butler January 31, 2015 12:10 AM GMT
Townend a great shout. No-one rides Cheltenham like he does. No, really, no-one rides Cheltenham like he does.
Report wellchief January 31, 2015 10:29 AM GMT
If you compare the 5/2 available for Giggi to be top owner, and the 10/1 for Cooper to be top jockey it's a no brainer.

Unless a lot of their second string win, he'll be on 90% of all the winners they'll have.
Report Benjy January 31, 2015 5:43 PM GMT
Doesn't sound like the price will be much bigger on day 2 with us all planning to have a bet Silly
Report SoYouThink January 31, 2015 6:46 PM GMT
Fair points that it's worth waiting until the Wednesday as on the face of it, his weakest day looks to be the Tuesday at the moment. Mind you they do have a fair spread of the novices and could win the Supreme, Clarcam would also be as good as any novice around if anything happened Un De Sceaux and I imagine they could have one for the 3m handicap and they'll definitely have somthing for the novices' handicap chase.
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