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Think this horse is suited to RSA - and read this is his main aim for Chelt. Connections could have gone for the Gold Cup - but probably needs more time but this is the right stepping stone for the horse from a underated stable. Think he will be shorter and a lot more improvement to come from this horse
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Thought exactly that myself about 4 weeks ago when i got a bit of the remaining 16s off baldy bet 
admittedly though before we new the rsa was the aim so took a little chance but the market on here was positive and hovering around 15s - 18s at the time with money wanting to back. So hope he runs in it. I did take Coneygree at 14s at the same time.
admittedly though before we new the rsa was the aim so took a little chance but the market on here was positive and hovering around 15s - 18s at the time with money wanting to back. So hope he runs in it. I did take Coneygree at 14s at the same time.
Yea I like this fella too. 4 from 4 and looks an RSA type.
Concerned he is going there without another run though.
Concerned he is going there without another run though.
Yup bad stat against him, but decent enough form to make big impact hopefully.
Profile is most unusual for an RSA fancy, so I wouldn't be hung up about the fact that he has had a break. He was on the go in September and October, level of form is very strong and he'll appreciate decent ground. I think Gigginstown are going to dominate the novice chase events with maybe the exception of the Arkle. Once Don Poli is committed to this race, he will go very short.
From a trends perspective, I'd have to be against him:
Not ideal age (but not a major issue)
Not Irish bred
Doesn't have graded chase form of any note
Has flat form (big negative for me)
Wasn't of the normal required standard over hurdles
On the positive side, he looks tough and willing, has Cheltenham form, and should stay.
On balance though, I'd be against.
Not ideal age (but not a major issue)
Not Irish bred
Doesn't have graded chase form of any note
Has flat form (big negative for me)
Wasn't of the normal required standard over hurdles
On the positive side, he looks tough and willing, has Cheltenham form, and should stay.
On balance though, I'd be against.
Is he going straight to the RSA? I'd like him to Run at Newbury or Ascot in Novice chase before the Festvial tbh. I like the form of his last win Houblon Des Obeaux is a very good horse.
Allegedly straight to Festival re trainer last week, which is big negative.
But ive already backed him few weeks back,thought they may have given him one more run.Anyway need to find another in RSA now as back up.
I have 1 RSA bet. Irish Saint. Race looks dull to me. Don't like the top 2 in betting.
Glad you said Irish Saint forgot i backed him on here 40s last week ffs. Too many horses going around in my head at present. Not sure he will go RSA, as did read while back may go Aintree instead. But as you state doesnt look top quality race.
runs in the scilly next doesn't scream rsa trial to me
N.Mulholland says on RUK that he wants to go 4 miler and owner wants RSA. Still to be decided and they need to discuss.
NEIL MULHOLLAND on Monday suggested his Cheltenham Festival-bound stable star The Young Master would “more than likely” be targeted at the RSA Chase, but the trainer did not go as far as to completely rule out the four-miler.
Victory in the Listed Silver Cup at Ascot last month, when he beat Hennessy runner-up Houblon Des Obeaux, was the latest in a run of four consecutive wins since he was sent chasing, although he was subsequently disqualified from the Badger Ales Chase as he was not qualified to run.
His proven form outside of novice company has meant the six-year-old is prominent in the betting for both festival races.
He is no bigger than 12-1 for the RSA, while he is a general 10-1 for the Listed Toby Balding National Hunt Amateur Riders’ Novices’ Chase.
Mulholland said: "We’ve stepped his training back up to get him ready. The owner is keen to go for the RSA, but he has the option of the four-miler.
"He will more than likely go for the RSA, that’s where he probably will run, but it’s not set in stone just yet."
Victory in the Listed Silver Cup at Ascot last month, when he beat Hennessy runner-up Houblon Des Obeaux, was the latest in a run of four consecutive wins since he was sent chasing, although he was subsequently disqualified from the Badger Ales Chase as he was not qualified to run.
His proven form outside of novice company has meant the six-year-old is prominent in the betting for both festival races.
He is no bigger than 12-1 for the RSA, while he is a general 10-1 for the Listed Toby Balding National Hunt Amateur Riders’ Novices’ Chase.
Mulholland said: "We’ve stepped his training back up to get him ready. The owner is keen to go for the RSA, but he has the option of the four-miler.
"He will more than likely go for the RSA, that’s where he probably will run, but it’s not set in stone just yet."
Looks like there's a bit of a battle of wills between owner and trainer brandy.....nothing new there then!
I'd like to see him in the RSA mainly because it would remind me of a nice win on Young Hustler all those years ago. He was a novice that ran in handicaps prior to his RSA victory. I just reminded myself of his form and he ran in 13 chases that season prior to his Cheltenham win. 13 
Trainers were men and horses earned their oats in those days.
Trainers were men and horses earned their oats in those days.
Read the Racing Post piece posted by brandy above and then read the Racing UK piece below:
Neil Mulholland insists he will run The Young Master in the race he feels will give his exciting prospect the best chance of success at the Cheltenham Festival.
While the Wiltshire trainer admits he would probably prefer the Toby Balding National Hunt Chase on the opening day (March 10), he revealed the owner might like to go for the RSA Chase on the following day.
"People seem to think it's the RSA. I see it was mentioned it was plan A. It is by no means plan A," Mulholland told Racing UK.
"He will only have two entries. We will keep it to the two novice races, the RSA and the four-miler.
"The owner would probably like the RSA and I would probably like the four-miler. It's something that needs to be discussed.
"There's a lot of bridges to cross between now and then.
"He's already won over three-mile-two around Cheltenham and he was staying on up the hill and he has improved a lot since then.
"You'd be fairly confident he'd stay the four miles. He's acted on heavy ground and he's acted on a better surface.
"We've not got him entered in three or four races. It's just down to these two. I've got to speak to the owner.
"I think the horse has got even stronger since Ascot, he's in great order, so it just depends on the day. We just want to do the best for the horse and give him the best chance of winning."
The Young Master was last seen winning the Mappin & Webb Silver Cup at Ascot in December.
The RUK piece virtually quotes verbatim what I heard (or at least thought I heard!) Mulholland say on the channel yesterday. At no point did he say TYM was 'more likely' to go for the RSA. So ,either the Racing Post are wilfully and selectively distorting the trainer's comments and running a headline and article which do not reflect the connections' thoughts accurately or Mulholland has said something different to the RP than he said on Racing UK.
It reminds me of the headlines and selective use of Henderson quotes in the run up to Sprinter Sacre's reappearance.
I'm not saying he won't run in the RSA - and Cunningham made the very pertinent point that the availablity of Barry Geraghty to ride may yet be a key factor - but I really dislike the way these stories are reported when they could easily mislead the reader.
Neil Mulholland insists he will run The Young Master in the race he feels will give his exciting prospect the best chance of success at the Cheltenham Festival.
While the Wiltshire trainer admits he would probably prefer the Toby Balding National Hunt Chase on the opening day (March 10), he revealed the owner might like to go for the RSA Chase on the following day.
"People seem to think it's the RSA. I see it was mentioned it was plan A. It is by no means plan A," Mulholland told Racing UK.
"He will only have two entries. We will keep it to the two novice races, the RSA and the four-miler.
"The owner would probably like the RSA and I would probably like the four-miler. It's something that needs to be discussed.
"There's a lot of bridges to cross between now and then.
"He's already won over three-mile-two around Cheltenham and he was staying on up the hill and he has improved a lot since then.
"You'd be fairly confident he'd stay the four miles. He's acted on heavy ground and he's acted on a better surface.
"We've not got him entered in three or four races. It's just down to these two. I've got to speak to the owner.
"I think the horse has got even stronger since Ascot, he's in great order, so it just depends on the day. We just want to do the best for the horse and give him the best chance of winning."
The Young Master was last seen winning the Mappin & Webb Silver Cup at Ascot in December.
The RUK piece virtually quotes verbatim what I heard (or at least thought I heard!) Mulholland say on the channel yesterday. At no point did he say TYM was 'more likely' to go for the RSA. So ,either the Racing Post are wilfully and selectively distorting the trainer's comments and running a headline and article which do not reflect the connections' thoughts accurately or Mulholland has said something different to the RP than he said on Racing UK.
It reminds me of the headlines and selective use of Henderson quotes in the run up to Sprinter Sacre's reappearance.
I'm not saying he won't run in the RSA - and Cunningham made the very pertinent point that the availablity of Barry Geraghty to ride may yet be a key factor - but I really dislike the way these stories are reported when they could easily mislead the reader.
Very mixed views from the two articles.
On the Racing Post site today there is a headline ANNIE POWER IN RACE AGAINST TIME TO MAKE FESTIVAL. If you read that you'd imagine she was not coming to hand or behind schedule. When you read the article it's nothing of the sort. **** site.
On the Racing Post site today there is a headline ANNIE POWER IN RACE AGAINST TIME TO MAKE FESTIVAL. If you read that you'd imagine she was not coming to hand or behind schedule. When you read the article it's nothing of the sort. **** site.
Now that B365 have gone NRNB, the 10/1 for the 4 miler looks huge to me.
A lot may depend on where Coneygree and Don Poli go, but that's the beauty of NRNB. If Coneygree and Don Poli go for the RSA, surely this race is there for the taking for The Younger Master?
He'd be the highest rated chaser in the field (151), and the last three years winners have been 150, 146 and 151.
On a line through Houblon, he has a huge amount to make up with Coneygree in the RSA, and the market is leaning towards an RSA run for him, rather than the Gold Cup.
I think the 10's is a fantastic bet to nothing. Who would you rather take on - Very Wood and Sego Success, or Coneygree, Don Poli and Kings Palace? No brainer to me.
A lot may depend on where Coneygree and Don Poli go, but that's the beauty of NRNB. If Coneygree and Don Poli go for the RSA, surely this race is there for the taking for The Younger Master?
He'd be the highest rated chaser in the field (151), and the last three years winners have been 150, 146 and 151.
On a line through Houblon, he has a huge amount to make up with Coneygree in the RSA, and the market is leaning towards an RSA run for him, rather than the Gold Cup.
I think the 10's is a fantastic bet to nothing. Who would you rather take on - Very Wood and Sego Success, or Coneygree, Don Poli and Kings Palace? No brainer to me.
Spot on Well Chief.
I've taken the 10s NRNB as well. I cant see that lasting long with 365.
The amateur that rode him at Cheltenham earlier in the season is big mates with the trainer. Hopefully this might lean him towards the Four miler.
I've taken the 10s NRNB as well. I cant see that lasting long with 365.
The amateur that rode him at Cheltenham earlier in the season is big mates with the trainer. Hopefully this might lean him towards the Four miler.
Chief that does look a good spot. Just one Stat (I'm not really a stat person either but this did open my eyes)as it is a unique Festival race over 4 miles and a big stamina test.
Only one 6 year old (Tricky Trickster) has won this race in the last 25 years and 67 5 or 6 year olds have tried.
Don Poli, Wounded Warrior and Very Wood are all 6 year olds this season as well and are at the head of the betting.
Just something to consider but 10/1 NRNB looks very fair.
Only one 6 year old (Tricky Trickster) has won this race in the last 25 years and 67 5 or 6 year olds have tried.
Don Poli, Wounded Warrior and Very Wood are all 6 year olds this season as well and are at the head of the betting.
Just something to consider but 10/1 NRNB looks very fair.
It's a fair point about the six year old stat. But given that he has proven himself in good handicaps against more experienced opposition then this really wouldn't bother me.
he wouldn't be the most likely type on paper having come through the handicap route beating slow horses in the process but it looks an open year bar coneygree on paper, so can see why people are angling for a wager in the race...personally i'm struggling with the race so am hoping something comes to me on the day but it isn't proving an easy puzzle to solve
anyway the young master may run well for his seemingly improved trainer but the 4 miler maybe a better race for him like other posters have pointed out
anyway the young master may run well for his seemingly improved trainer but the 4 miler maybe a better race for him like other posters have pointed out
Didn't realise that Shocks, but I was reading the other day how the conditions of the race have changed in the last few years, to favour the high class horses, so it's no coincidence that recently the best horses have fought out the finish (eg as recent as 10 years ago, 120 horses were winning this, but now they're in the 150's).
To be honest, I'm not sure what the changes are (think upgrading it to a class one), but apparently, only really the stats from the last 6 years or so are relevant to this race now.
The amount of weight they have to carry is a bit less now as well, so it might help the younger ones, eg Tricky Trickster carried 11st 11, whereas now they only carry 11st 6.
The other thing I like is Mulholland preferring this race over the RSA. I'd prefer his judgement over the owner, who understandably might want the more high profile race, but the trainer knows the horse best. It's not like he is Mullins who is juggling them to keep them apart, but Mulholland thinks this race will suit him better.
As ben has said above, he is already a pretty battle hardended six year old too.
I think it's about 60/40 for the RSA at the moment, but I really would run him in the 4 miler if he were mine.
To be honest, I'm not sure what the changes are (think upgrading it to a class one), but apparently, only really the stats from the last 6 years or so are relevant to this race now.
The amount of weight they have to carry is a bit less now as well, so it might help the younger ones, eg Tricky Trickster carried 11st 11, whereas now they only carry 11st 6.
The other thing I like is Mulholland preferring this race over the RSA. I'd prefer his judgement over the owner, who understandably might want the more high profile race, but the trainer knows the horse best. It's not like he is Mullins who is juggling them to keep them apart, but Mulholland thinks this race will suit him better.
As ben has said above, he is already a pretty battle hardended six year old too.
I think it's about 60/40 for the RSA at the moment, but I really would run him in the 4 miler if he were mine.
Foxrock went off 3/1F for this last year as a 6 year old. He was just touched off in the Hennessy 3 weeks ago, so is very good and could only finish 9th in this last year. It's the 4m that's the prob for the age group. I've backed Wounded Warrior so done it myself, prob not running anyway but this is a big stat to overcome. Difficult but not impossible and still think 10/1 NRNB is worth a go.
FWIW i think the 6 year old stat is one to defo have on your side as far as the 4 miler is concerned and i will not be having a bet in the race unless on the morning of the 10th one shortens the night before and will be back to said price in the morning.
I feel that 6 year olds might find the distance tough more than anything. Not that they don't get the trip, that is a totally different ball game, i mean their older counterparts being older, wiser and therefore naturally stronger!
I don't have a problem backing a 6 year old in the RSA though.
I feel that 6 year olds might find the distance tough more than anything. Not that they don't get the trip, that is a totally different ball game, i mean their older counterparts being older, wiser and therefore naturally stronger!
I don't have a problem backing a 6 year old in the RSA though.
TYM looks like it's the RSA. Blue all over Oddschecker.
Gerraghty said at a preview evening I was reading about that he has been booked to ride tym in the rsa
Mulholland has confirmed he goes for RSA with Barry Geraghty booked.
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