Cheltenham Festival
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^^^ not a bad shout CV .
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lay being the important missing word below!
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GOOD POST WEE GORDON.
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The race will cut up in my opinion. Gilgamboa will go to the JLT, Clarcam will be worse off at the weights and Josses Hill / Vibrato Valtat will probably run again, might even underperform. After that, what else is there? There will be no desire to go for this race now over the JLT.
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strange people wanting to lay the horse after that performance...just beaten his main dangers...purely laying him on not getting round and tbh he jumped really well today and leopardstown takes some jumping
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1.1 to be effective on better ground, 1.15 to jump round, 1.2 to beat the opposition... 1.5ish.
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Ruby Walsh post race interview
He beat two good horse in Clarcam and Gilgamboa We went a good honest gallop. It was a very fast honest pace. He was very clever at the 2nd last. He went a really good gallop. People don't realise how stiff Lepoardstown actually is...people can be sucked into kicking for home far too soon. Loved the way he quickened turning in and then galloped all the way to the line. He doesn't stop, for a horse that goes so fast on the bridle he finds plenty off of it so there was plenty left in the locker when I asked him. I love horses like him who are very forward...whatever they do they go forward. I like that. If he makes a mistake he still goes forward. He's so quick on his feet that he can just readjust. No reservations about going to Cheltenham but it's up to willie. a job well done. He hasn't been the easiest to train especially with his mindset. He has the potential to be as good as Azertyuiop and Masterminded....he reminds me most of Azertyuiop with his free going style and how he attacks his fences. |
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I won't be laying him. Given that he wouldn't need room to manoeuve in a champ chase, as they wouldn't get near him anyway, i wonder ? He will go for the arkle no doubt, but you never know. Champagne Fever wouldn't get near him, and they are/were considering it for him.
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I think it was generally accepted that for the first part of the race the horse had been a tad out of control with the jocks basically passengers...to back up the visual you could always ask walsh and geraghty who said the exact same thing.....pipe/scudamore etc comparison is nonsense because they chose to race they did...this horse gives you no choice.
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I wont be laying him either, jumps very well.
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Very impressive. He cuffed 2 good horses fair and square. Clarcam will probably take him on again, as there is good place prize money in the Arkle but can't see Gilgamboa in that race. The only thing that I can see beating him is himself....a race ending mistake or more likely, not being able to cope with the Cheltenham pre-race hullabaloo. No fears about the going - he is such a good mover he will probably be better on it!
Look forward to the spectacle. I won't be playing in the race. |
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Can't back him...way to short especially so early on in the Festival...mind you there's still 25 races to go but suffering a big loss so early....yikes.
flip side...he could jump the big ditch at the top of the hill big and bold 6 lengths clear with the others in trouble and you can green up right there and then. hopefully we get 7 rivals and we can have a nibble at a Baily Green type eachway or w/o the fav. It would be interesting if he goes for the QM...that would stir that race up big time! |
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Any stats men out there with front runners statistic in the arkle? Think its a very poor return? That being said I reckon only about 4 horses will line up against him.
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Normally the proposition of a heavy odds on favourite puts me off but the run style of UDS makes the race far more interesting.
Still I'll be sticking with my VV each way as I'm not one for short odds. |
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Had a little bit on Vibralto Valtat to place at 4's - no point in doing a normal ew bet imo, because I think you'd be throwing away the win part.
As a few have said, could be a small field and top 3 in the place market at the moment. |
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Did I imagine it or was Nichols not very keen to run VV at the festival?
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wellchief 25 Jan 15 14:22 Joined: 17 Dec 09 | Topic/replies: 2,012 | Blogger: wellchief's blog
Had a little bit on Vibralto Valtat to place at 4's - no point in doing a normal ew bet imo, because I think you'd be throwing away the win part. I took e/w at 20/1 and will lay the win stake at sp. He won't be 20/1 on the day. So will get a 5/1 place bet and probably a free 8/1 win bet. |
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In his latest column Nicholls says VV goes to Warwick then the Arkle "all being well"
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In his Betfair column about a week ago, after the novice chase declarations were made, Nicholls said VV would run in the Kingmake and then in the Arkle, unless something untoward happens.
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Cheers lads. Thought I remembered him being against it a couple of months back but maybe I'm getting confused.
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Cooper said he's never seen a horse leave him for dead so quickly after the second last. It's a sight to behold, Ruby lets him an inch of rein after the second last and the reaction is instant, he quickens. He's some horse, so exciting.
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Absolutely fantastic.
As racing fans we should all relish this exciting front runner. Just so relieved hes finally proved that he can do this against proven Grade 1 performers, as I always hoped he would. Don't think ive ever been so nervous about a horse before a race with no cash involved either today or Cheltenham. I have a few accas with him in,so that's good,but not really a betting race now for me.I have Jhill and Sgt Reckless to cheer on if they run......that's if they manage to get into the race!!,my other one Gilgamboa wont be running now,he got destroyed today. To be honest I think its a race we should all sit back,watch and enjoy a bold exciting front runner. After all we are all National Hunt enthusiasts. |
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UDS was the biggest unknown of my 6-fold antepost, he now removed all the doubts, hopefully Mullins doesn't screw me up like last year please God..
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WOW. I agree with the sentiments about enjoying a committed front runner. Not a common site nowadays as jockeys seem to compete with each other to see who's the coolest. I can also see how folk were disappointed he didn't run in the champion hurdle but I guess you could also say he's been looked after and is showing all his ability now.
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Very very good horse.
Also proved that he is controllable. I wouldn't want to lay this one. Jumps well, stays and is fast. Think it could be a very small field again this year with UDS heavy odds on. |
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Yeh,its something I mentioned before brandy.
The race itself in March would have been better off if Vautour had gone for the race today,and UDS had run in another lower grade race. We would then still have had the unknown about UDS, and the pressure to run Vautour in the Arkle would have been there. So now, unless Vautour takes him on in the Arkle, which seems unlikely,we are looking at a possible rout. And a small field as well. We have to hope now that Josses Hill proves capable,and maybe VValtat. The Irish challenge, that looked pretty strong before today, has gone. |
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You'd struggle to crab that performance.
S'pose it's always price dependent but I would n't generally look to lay a horse on basis that he might fall, not handle the track, not be as effective on better ground - you'd want to be making a case for one or two of the opposition to beat him and that's a struggle at the mo' He could be less effective around the track and on better going and still win on the basis of what we've seen. Mind, it's worth pointing out that the race Josses Hill won at Doncaster was the same one the Arkle no hoper Western Warhorse won last year.  |
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UDS will not have to travel at breakneck speed, he will just have to tootle round like he did today and he will still win Arkle on the bridle.
Without doubt, the banker of the meeting, especially as a lot of his rivals will now run scared to the JLT |
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I think anyone putting Josses Hill up against UDS is clutching at straws. He looks like a giraffe and is an awkward jumper imo.
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probably be handy at sticking his neck out in a photo though. |
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^ I would n't argue wuth that but you'd've said same about anyone putting WW up against Champagne Fever this time last year, merely highlighting that nothing is a foregone conclusion.
I'd quite like to see a Giraffe race over Arkle course and distance, would be an entertaining watch... |
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Yes Budd. As much as it will be good to see him at Cheltenham it would have been better with the unknown factor.
Anyway done now and this race for me is just a watching brief now. |
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Privileged enough to have been at Leopardstown today and totally blown away by that.
Was down near the last fence and, having backed Clarcam, was quietly optimistic at the second last. UDS then blew by me while Clarcam, who jumped and travelled beautifully, was punch drunk on the run-in. UDS absolutely annihilated two very good horses and to be honest, 4/5 is a gift for the Arkle. Josses Hill won't see which way this machine goes. |
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Lucky bu99er!!
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Wish I was there today. Must've been some atmosphere.
UDS got a 171 RPR btw, "rating high enough to win 19 or last 20 Arkles". |
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WOW
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Not surprised
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i missed the race but i just watched the video and he pinged the last, his jumping was electric down the back straight and to beat Clarcam by that far giving him 10lbs was a fantastic performance. I have in a big single and decent treble with Douvan and Sprinter Sacre so all my fingers will be crossed he makes it to the festival in one piece. i was thinking that a rating of 170+ would be appropriate given the two horses he beat
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i opposed him but you have to be impressed with that. gilgamboa made a mistake and couldn't cope when the pace lifted, and clarcam had no change of gear whereas UDS was cruising.
even when walsh went for him a bit on the run-in he visually moved further away from clarcam RPR of 171? christ the ONLY possible worry for me is what mullins said about being too hard on himself and taking a while to get over races. other than that what on earth beats him |
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Agreed - I thin yesterday was the Eureka moment some of us were waiting for. To be fair to others, they'd already had it. I thought he was magnificent.
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