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Gold Cup Pricewise Tuesday
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I think that's only fair GI Mac.
If he wins, I'll hold my hands up and admit that I was wrong, but at this moment in time, his price is pretty terrible. He should be in amongst the sea of horses around the 20/1 - 25/1 mark imo, with the Carlingford Lough's, Many Clouds, Smad Place etc. |
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He's picked the wrong one lads,But i'm happy TDS will be under the radar
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Trouble is Mac, to back him for the Gold Cup you have to judge him before the race mate.
Im more than willing to admit im wrong after the event,but how on earth can I back him now on what ive seen. Thers horses at twice,even three times his price, with better form. |
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TDS in the Ryanair(aint he?).....if we see him again this season.
Surely Not gonna stay 3m 2f. |
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Yeah hard to see Jonjo running all 3 of his in Gold Cup. Depends on how Taquin runs nto I suppose
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Could see taquin running in Ryanair,Holywell will save his best for the spring,Lord Windermere is a great price Cv,if it turns into a slog shutthefrontdoor could well be in the frame !
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Gary OBrien on ATR website also tipped up Carlingford Lough 33s NR NO bet,had saver on here at 40s few days back,so nice trade now for free bet.
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If his runs this season put you off fair enough, peronnally given who his trainer is (and his recent form) I'd be inclined to over look them. I'm happy to judge him at the end of the season RE being a G1 horse.
You cannot ignore his festival form and his overall chase profile is progressive. Synchronised was similarly under estimated given he ran mostly in handicaps. It's not looking the stongest renewal this year, so Holywell winning would not surprise me in the slightest. As I said above I'd rather have him than carlingford Lough, who did not jump the course well enough in the RSA. By the way, I've not backed him or anything  |
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tbf to Synchronised he won one to the 2 biggest trials for the Gold Cup in the Lexus Chase.
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aye, but he still had an SP of 8/1 come GC, that would have been bigger had he not been pricewised on the day, even after winning the Lexus he was still underestimated, he was still a "handicapper"
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Well Kauto and Long Run resulted in that, he was 3rd fav though
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think id rather be on the other jonjo stayer meself
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Can not see the link between Holywell running poorly last year and finding himself VERY well handicapped. And running poorly this season before the Grade 1 Gold Cup.
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that is true, my point simply was that his previous festival wins have been after not exactly encouraging displays. i take your point tho the GC is a completely different ball game.
he was clearly ran first time up this year to blow away the cobwebs, 20f on soft ground was never going to suit him and so it proved. he then fell at aintree and jonjo was long out of form. he's now back in form and if holywell can mix it in good company before the gold cup or even win he'll be single figures. i take the view of preferring to ignore his two runs this season, because they havent told us anything and the more recent was when jonjo was out of form. even more of that absolutely bombed. |
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If Carlingford Lough or Holywell win the Gold Cup then basically it's a **** Gold Cup.
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The missing word starts with s and ends with t.
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well its not exactly the best gc in terms of quality anyway is it?
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It's an incredibly open Gold Cup though. Many many chances with horses that can have cases made for them and that makes it intriguing. Well it does to me anyway.
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Yep,its a very interesting race and a darn good betting one too imo.
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