L'Ami Serge.

Henderson has trained the last 4 seconds.....he deserves to get a Supreme winner !

Did NH say if this would run again b4 Chelters or straight there? I missed most of the interview

He said it'll go straight there

I can't have this at all for a Supreme.

0/6 in France. Won a mickey mouse there and time before was probably gonna get turned over by a horse that would get hammered in a Supreme.

Cheers yeah in with you collector,it'll be a pink button from me

No idea how he could be made fav tbh.

Biggest worry is obviously the ground.

A key trend - Twelve out of the last thirteen winners have raced at least once in the previous forty-five days before the Cheltenham Festival.

When you look at the head of the market, it's absolutely no surprise to me that he's nearly fav. What else definitely turns up? You can't be sure about any of the Mullins runners then it's Jollyallan and Silver Concorde.

That is the only thing putting me off backing him. The horse would need a prep run.

Agree Joist...mot much in the market ....at the moment.

* not

Silver Concorde the value for me if still being aimed here after his Christmas defeat, can't find anything from post-race regarding his plans now though.

Won well enough though the 2nd should be a 50/1 chance for the Supreme, so we shouldn't get carried away. Ground was pretty desperate today but I think the horse would be better for good ground, based on his breeding. His best run in England was probably his debut at Newbury, so maybe Nicky wants to take him to the Festival fresh?

Very good performance today, especially given how well Harrys horses are running. Horse didn't like the ground either I don't think.

Should be fav for Supreme imo.

He did all that was asked of him today. At Newbury he hammered Kilcooley off levels and he's rated 155 now!!!! Not worried about the prep as Henderson can get them ready and he has the french experience. Good chance in my book.

Gonna get stuck right into this on the pink. Frys horse today would get mullered in the Supreme.

7/1 seems fair enough to me, if it was nrnb I'd be lumping on with a view to lay off on the day.

The Delloite Hurlde may yet throw up a new favourite if one of Mullins wins impressively, like Vautour last year, but even then L'AS will surely be clear 2nd fav. Looks a very weak English crop of 2m novices that's for sure.

hasn't got a lot to beat at present has it ffs!

good luck collector!!!

Don't win the race very often does Hendo.
Think he has better juveniles than this one, one of them should run imo.

Hendo said in his interview, as long as this horse is sound "No 4 year olds will run". He seemed very bullish!!

Budd you suggesting Triumph winner to run ?

Jesus the Supreme is dire this year. What Mullins runs 3? one for JP, one for Wylies, one fr Ricci and Hendo has Munirs ones.

I know what he said,dont mean I agree.
Think both peace and co and Top Notch would be serious threats in the Supreme with the allowance.
Why not run one in the race,both look well capable of winning the Triumph and their biggest danger is probably the owners horse trained by NTD,so owner aint got much to lose and a lot to gain by having 2 in the Supreme imo,as he would also have 1st and 2nd favs in the Triumph!!

Could easily be a small field CV???

What is going to beat Lami? Nothing apart from stablemate or maybe Mullins Horse, but CV knows?

Munir said some of his juveniles will wait for Aintree so I'd be wary of backing his for the Triumph.

L'ami serge isn't the easiest to keep sound, Just saying don't go all in any who like his chances.

If ever their was a year for running a top juvenile in the Supreme this is it.Race has no stand out good thing that I can see
Be a shame if an owner that has 4 decent ones did not run 1 of them in the Supreme imo

Gut where did you hear that has run 3 times in last 6 weeks!!!

Just people in racing Steve, Has gone lame a few times of late fortunately he has been fit enough to not be hampered by a few days off here and there, it's why they are resting him until the big day now.

I didn't back today as was lame wednesday/thursday of this week, Thought he was a good thing but played it safe just in case.

Must be decent then lol!

Very lol, probably just knocks himself at home, Might even be a bit of a fairy about it like some are but do know it's something they've had a few times with him since he arrived.

Spirit Son and Sprinter didn't really enter the Supreme reckoning until February, Gilgamboa was late on the scene last year, so I'm hoping there might be one more to come to the fore yet.

Douvan looks like no slouch considering the horse he brushed aside won a G1 next time out.

I think there could be a few twists yet.

Not even had a bet yet in it myself Chief, Just haven't seen one that gave me that wow factor yet.

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What is going to beat Lami? Nothing apart from stablemate or maybe Mullins Horse, but CV knows?

Bit of a childish dig stevo.

Blimey almost went 10 replies without a Mullins horse being mentioned,is a average race at moment but think may have seen winner today? But race stats against it .

Same here mate. Last few years I have always had a decent sized bet in this race but none at all for me at all.

Last few runnings at this stage I have been on Darlan, My Tent or Yours and Vautour. If only we had one of those in it this year.

I accept My Tent getting beat, but I'll never know how Cinders and Ashes managed to beat Darlan.

Douvan looks the stand out candidate for me so far. As wellchief alludes to, he also has by far the most solid form in the book to my eyes.

Just another with ground questions to answer like is so often the case.

Was on Trifolium myself WC, Thought MTOY was good value in place market that year but always felt he was weak in a finish, How Cinders won I'll never know.
It's not a race I tend to do well in so as it stands I may wait till the day now, Thought Max Dynamite could be worth a bet but looked well wrong behind lto so I'd not touch him now.

Understandable CCM, Mullins horses in the novice hurdles have been big earners in recent years.

Allez Colobieres was their big one for this though. Who sadly died. If Nicholls Canyon runs poor nto it's possible Shaneshill could run here? Douvan for Neptune instead and Sempre Medici in supreme for Ricci.

Who knows tbh. But the level of novice hurdlers Mullins has now is a bit crazy. In fact almost all his winners in recent years have been over hurdles.

Jollyallan is probably one at a price that I like but Harry Fry in no rush to commit him to the Supreme or Neptune.

Would have to improve his jumping a fair bit though.

Yes I'm on Nichols Canyon and still think he will run a decent race... And go for the Supreme. But was quite taken with Douvan.

Would agree with you there Chief.

One I have on the back burner who I hope goes unnoticed (So I post it here lol, Forgive me I'm charitable and a bit drunk) for a handicap is Shantou Bob, Not a big fan of Greatrex  as he tends to work them very hard at home but this is one who has ability, Fletchers Flyer & Tara Point count among his victims and the Vyta du Roc form could prove to be smart, He seems to have not been picked up on anywhere which suits me.

I'd imagine Jollyallen would step up for Neptune and Alvisio Ville would go for Supreme. Frank Berry will decide that with AP and JP you'd imagine.

I think they might go betfair hurdle next with Jollyallan off 149 same as My Tent or Yours was when he won.

See how Free expression gets on tomorrow as JP doesn't have much for the opener and Jollyallen might be his best hope there at this stage.

Alvisio Ville looked a Supreme horse rather than a Neptune horse to me.

I think they might go betfair hurdle next with Jollyallan off 149 same as My Tent or Yours was when he won


imo MTOY  was diferent gravy to jollyallan

Didn't see him CCM so will take a look, Cheers for the heads up.

Probably right alleged, but as others have said, probably won't have the same quality opposition that MTOY had.

Lovely big strapping grey gutfeeling. Some engine on him... Sure we will be talking about him in the 2016 Arkle thread!!

MTOY off 149, that was hilarious how well in he was. But almost all novices win that race anyway. Jollyallan will be a serious chaser next season. He'd want to be given how much he cost. I was never told who Paul Nicholls buyer was who wanted to buy him and "keep him" with Harry.

Still, could be soft ground at Newbury, Jollyallan really needs further than 2 miles, can run well now he's had his 3 hurdle runs.

Mullins has so many contenders for the novices alright. How he's going to split them will be guesswork right up until the week of the Festival although I have my own inclinations.

He'll run one of them in the Moscow Flyer Hurdle at Punchestown next weekend, Alvisio Ville, Shaneshill or Nichols Canyon.

On the Irish racing website there is an article with quotes from Mullins saying Douvan runs in a Listed race in Punchestown at the end of the month which a quick look at the fixtures would seem it'll be the same race Wicklow Brave won last year.

This would also seem to rule him out of the Deloitte which is the following week which would then make me question why Douvan isn't getting a chance in a higher grade of race? I can only imagine how much more confusing it would be if Allez Colombieres hadn't be so unfortunate :(

Yep, it's genuinely staggering that they have lost the stables number one horse for the race, and the three I fancy most, are still the WPM runners!

I think Douvan, Alvisio Ville and Nichols Canyon look his nailed on three for the race.

Other than the fact that JP also has Alvisio Ville for the Supreme so could re-route Jollyallan to the Neptune, I'm baffled to hear that Jollyallan wants a trip at this point in his career.

He's looked very speedy to me so far and has won all of his novice hurdles by being last off the bridle, most recently being too quick for ex-flat beast Sempre Medici. 2m perfect at the moment imo, and Harry Fry said after Kempton, "he'll stick to the two mile trip over hurdles."

Yep I think he will be in the Supreme with AV. Free expression looks JP's Neptune horse...

Having lumped on Shaneshill for the Neptune after his last run I fully expect he will run in the Delloite (2m2f trip will be prefect) and then go for the Supreme.

Having lumped on Shaneshill for the Neptune after his last run I fully expect he will run in the Delloite (2m2f trip will be prefect) and then go for the Supreme.

I think Shaneshill ran into an above average rival last time, on ground softer than ideal.

I think the Neptune is definitely still his race.  Probably won't reoppose No More Heroes as they'll go different distances, but if they met over 2.5m again but on good ground, I'd fully expect Shaneshill to turn the form round.

Hopefully the defeat of Tell Us More makes Shaneshill the Mullins first string for the Neptune.

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hasn't got a lot to beat at present has it ffs!
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good luck collector!!!

But he will have on the morning of March 10th.

Cv was not meant to be dig, you have good knowledge of stable as per posts from previous festivals re Mullins targets.

Yeah was my bad, sometimes hard to know mate, typed words come off different sometimes depending how you read them.

To answer your question, I've no idea re Mullins Supreme. They were all mad for Allez Columbieres. So his death means whatever runs is 2nd best. Douvan would 100% be in the Neptune had Allez not died.

Gun to head I'd say Alvisio Ville.

But then again top class horses can win over either 2m or 2m5f

TNO, Faugheen, Vautour, Champagne Fever all could have won over either trip. So Douvan could easily be good enough for either. But he's very short.

apparently done enough to win an 'average' renewal. i absolutely hate that statement with a passion. cue card and mtoy had also 'done enough' to win last 10 runnings or whatever it was

I also think Alvilio Ville is very good but so is Jollyallen.

Interesting article BHA website talking to Guillam Macaire,who trained this lad and some other top notch horses.