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Cheltenham Festival
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The form on the track that he has shown thus far tim.
I am drawing a line through his last run, but there were no positives in it. His juvenile form looks nothing special to me now: Hargam beaten each time (admitadly not that far behind TNO last time, but TNO is pretty exposed), and Top Noth looks an admirable sort, like an Oscar Whisky or Thousand Stars, but I think he is a below Champion Hurdle class. I think everyone has got slightly carried away with his Doncaster debut (this thread is testiment to that) as next time out he only beat Karezak 3 lengths. I may well be wrong, but if I can get that £20 back on him, I'll be made up, as I'd rather reinvest it somewhere else. |
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Top Notch and Hargam haven't progressed much so why should we just presume P&C will. That Triumph form is really looking sub-par right now. And MTOY after a 2 year layoff?
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Timtin - If my memory serves me right you were Faugheen's biggest fan (i was a non-believer) last year. I can't believe you think P&C or MTOY will have a chance against him now. If anything he a better horse this year, especially his jumping.
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yes I think I was the only Donny detractor on here but later showings proved he was worthy of a 160 figure and that as a juvenile so if accounting for improvement and if he was allowed to race more this season I'm sure we would be in the high 160s by now. TN and Hargam did the form no harm in coming close 2nd in the Fighting Fifth and 3rd in the Christmas Hurdle. Thats the thing though, Hendo didn't allowed him any racing and he'll arrive in the CH -depending if he wins on Saturday- with very little experience but if he does perform well this Saturday he has that potential of reaching high figures.
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Top Notch is very closely matched with Identity Thief (and Nichols canyon thru this horses next run). Ask anyone from Henderson's and they would confirm P&C would wipe the floor with Top Notch on good ground as its on another level. It wont beat Faugheen (but nothing will probably!) but in the W/O market it will surely get you a return and go close!
PS - Hargam doesn't have the scope of P&C but will be seen to much better effect on better ground. To go so close in the Bula on soft ground was a great effort and is another who could squeak a place in the W/O market if things fall right |
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@maelduin I still am, but my theory has always been and I hope the race will be run in such manner that not only will be in Hendo best interest( regarding MTOY or P&C) but also and more importantly in Faugheen interest as that'll allow him an official 180+ figure, which I personally think he already achieved in the Irish CH but all the handicappers took a highly conservative view and only awarded 176-177. Without anyone forcing the pace and playing for second placing then Faugheen will again not look impressive, although last year he looked that way because he came with no prep but also because Ruby made it tactical in early stages.
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that'll allow him an official 180+ figure, which I personally think he already achieved in the Irish CH but all the handicappers took a highly conservative view and only awarded 176-177
Yes i agree they were holding back somewhat. The impression on Ruby face after that race was priceless. Another aggressive ride like that and the 180+ will be official in the CH. |
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PP seem to think sempre medici wont turn up saturday, now 8/15 from evens
so should have a nice toe round behind rayvin black on saturday |
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County Hurdle next?
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Fakenham I expect
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Has it trained on I wonder?
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I'd worry about the fella training him tbh.
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Same here full of bull-hit imo.
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Frustrating run, can only hope better ground and a proper pace see's it to show more of its true ability. Probably run to about 151 yesterday, needs to improve another stone to get a place but time running out
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Looked to me as if something was niggling him when Jacob got after him, but to be fair has always looked a bit of a bridle ponce,
Would still fancy him to be placed in the CH tbh, blistering gallop, he'll travel like a dream and throw down a challenge to Faugheen but to no avail as he's chimed in the final stride. |
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He might place in the CH ... if he starts running in the Supreme!
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I agree with you about placing in Champion Hurdle,CheltenhamRoar.Too much of a task for him to win it this year but on totally different ground,and at proper racing pace in a decent sized field he'll come alive again...can't see him being quite as close as you do but at the present price and NRNB he is a cracking e.w bet if they let him run.
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The word from the stable is that he is becoming increasingly difficult to train, not a professional at all.
There was no stable money for it on Saturday, as they just don't know how fit they have him these days. I wonder if fences, next season obviously, might make him buckle down more. Either that or a switch of stable as they're at a bit of a loss at 7Bs. |
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the latest update from trainer was by far and away the most downbeat i have heard from him - i sense he has all but given up on this year - i wonder if they shouldnt change tack (excuse the pun) entirely and try and see if they can turn him into a stayer on the flat
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I think it is best not to rush his return certainly not for Cheltenham otherwise more pain for supporters; it is evidently clear something is affecting his ability as a racehorse, but the good thing is he's only a 5 yr old (6 in March).
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Following his run on Saturday we have been looking at Peace And Co’s respiratory and although there is not a whole lot to see or hear, we feel cauterizing his pallet, which is a fairly straight forward procedure – without the need for a general anaesthetic – would benefit him.
That procedure is being performed this morning and only necessitates a short period of rest, which will not affect his intended participation at the Festival. Nicky Henderson |
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Feel a bit sorry for the horse. Not his fault the Triumph Hurdle form was over-rated and the balloon has been burst.
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Don't worry Autocue the horse can't read this
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Clutching at straws.
It runs with the choke out and isn't fit enough to see out it's races. However, after not being able to identify whether it's breathing was a problem, they're going to crack on and do an op anyway  |
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case of nothing to lose DO - sooner or later'wind op' was always going to become a euphemism for 'dont know what else i can do' - they will be so common place soon that it will be difficult to decipher between those done out of genuine need and those out of desperation - just another puzzle for us to solve
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Do you know what just made me laugh P&C is 6 on the Sportbook without Faugheen!!!!!!!!
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If only wind ops had been known about when old Quixall Crossett was around - with clean wind he'd have won a Gold Cup or two without a shadow of a doubt!
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I will not be giving up the faith on this horse just yet,
Granted he's been poor this season but he's had excuses, Breathing op (since last run) better ground and guaranteed fast pace will be right up his street, At fancy prices he's well worth a few bob, wouldn't be surprised were he to p!ss up or pull up, but at the prices I'm very much willing to find out |
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win only then? Think its possible but sometimes horses just don't improve or come back with the same form in a new season.. Top Notch is way ahead on last year form, he improved while P&C not only regressed but is also too inexperienced for this event
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no longer untrainable and possibly heading to Imperial Cup.
and then County Hurdle if the plan works out presumably |
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Love this horse to pieces but once a loon, always a loon.
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And with 8lbs less , a bout of pneumonia and a wind op .
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could be a wait for 2 furlongs and bet it horse
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We're in the know now,but don't tell anyone else.We'll take the first price any bookie offers on the race.The when it shortens,we'll tell everyone else we're on.This is just the best plan ever
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ha
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According to Henderson pneumonia has made a man of him
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nice gallop with brain power and josses hill seemed too settle o.k Imperial Cup next and possible county double
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ok we seen it on tv,but dont tell anyone else and we will take those darn bookies to the cleaners
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Which then, ok koral or notts county?
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I would suggest the shorter trip. He was never short of pace.
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