Forums

Cheltenham Festival

Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
filbert street
26 Nov 14 22:33
Joined:
Date Joined: 24 Feb 08
| Topic/replies: 39 | Blogger: filbert street's blog
really interested in this for rsa was 6\4 in the new ones neptune where trip looked on sharp side on good ground but looked very high class prior to that and well up the pecking order for WM so much so it was banker material 2 years ago. if takes to chasing think RSA the race with don poli going 4 miler thinking of stepping in at 14's but no entries any news\views appreciated
Pause Switch to Standard View ponte alexndre
Show More
Loading...
Report Paterson92 November 27, 2014 7:52 PM GMT
Last I heard on a podcast featuring Patrick Mullins was that the RSA is the intended target. However, Patrick did mention PA wouldn't be seen until late December as they were a bit behind schedule.
Report Joist November 27, 2014 8:43 PM GMT
I feel like the recent issues with Simonsig and Sprinter Sacre really highlight the danger in punting these highly promising horses to come back from injury...14s would be short enough imo, particularly if he's behind schedule.
Report GI MAC November 27, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
due to appear around Christmas according to stable tour on 3/11/14.
Report SoYouThink November 27, 2014 10:18 PM GMT
Joist is spot on, horses that miss a season or chunk of one with an injury never come back as good. I'm struggling to think of any recent big race Festival winner who missed a season with injury. Solwhit maybe. Inglis Drever I think missed the 2006 season and came back. It's rare though.

The same stable's Felix Yonger a good example last season. Al Ferof for Paul Nicholls another that springs to mind. It's probably a debate anyway whether these horses would've reached the top were it not for injury too. But regarding horses coming back from season-ending injuries, I always tend to avoid them.
Report Paterson92 January 13, 2015 6:36 PM GMT
Did Santa steal Pont Alexandre as a replacement for Rudolph? Seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
Report Wicketd January 13, 2015 6:44 PM GMT
i thought i read he was supposed to be back in feb?
Report Paterson92 January 13, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
That's news to me. The last I heard was that he was gonna be out around Christmas but that was some time ago and haven't been paying much attention since.
Report wellchief January 13, 2015 6:59 PM GMT
55's for the RSA on here probably says it all.
Report CVByrne January 13, 2015 7:11 PM GMT
Surely won't go near Cheltenham this season, if he does run in Feb, they'll aim at Fairyhouse and then Punchestown with him.
Report timtin January 16, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
RSA no chance now. National Hunt, here he comes.
Report duffy January 16, 2016 2:13 PM GMT
or world hurdle???
Report Can't Catch Me January 16, 2016 2:14 PM GMT
Wouldn't give him any chance in that either Tim.
Report timtin January 16, 2016 2:16 PM GMT
Mullins never reverses from fences to hurdles in the same season. Plus he coulnd't beat RDF, what are the chances he'll be anywhere good enough for the WH. I think the 4 mile race is the way to go now.
Report Graeme83 January 16, 2016 2:32 PM GMT
^^^^ vroum. I still think PA will go for the RSA. Better ground and all the rest of it.
Report Can't Catch Me January 16, 2016 2:35 PM GMT
Not sure he wants better ground though Graeme!
Report duffy January 16, 2016 2:39 PM GMT
PA travelled well through the race, it's simply a case of a horse finding little off the bridle.....don't think it is necessarily a stamina thing, perhaps the 4 miler will actually be his race where he'll simply outclass the field and be able to win it on the bridal????
Report buddeliea January 16, 2016 2:42 PM GMT
Is Pont actually that good?
Must admit never thought he was that good a horse to be honest.
Report timtin January 16, 2016 2:52 PM GMT
@Graeme83 yep got them mixed, never changes from hurdles to fences in same season.
Report blackballed1 January 16, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
Backed her for the RSA and was disappointed with that and can't see her winning if she even runs! The cow bust my treble today with letsgotovegas and edwulf for good measure!
Report Graeme83 January 16, 2016 3:14 PM GMT
Cant catch - I think he would be better on a sounder surface. Whether he's better right handed is also a question. I think he will still run in the rsa, and if he switched races it would be jlt and 4 miler.
Report Graeme83 January 16, 2016 3:15 PM GMT
* and not 4 miler
Report Can't Catch Me January 16, 2016 3:20 PM GMT
But didn't they say they were unsure about the better ground when he disappointed at Chelts?
Report Graeme83 January 16, 2016 9:02 PM GMT
Not sure. Owner and trainer are optimists. They will be thinking he can produce on the day if they 'change one or two things'. He's a big price. Don't write him off completely.
Report buddeliea January 17, 2016 7:37 AM GMT
Never wrote him in in the first place personally.
Have to admit,I am confused.
Can someone tell me why this horse seems to be rated so highly by some? Is it another of these .............connections told us so,cos I cannot find any class form.
Report impossible123 January 17, 2016 9:49 AM GMT
It is still a good horse (so is RDF) but not a super one as connections had hoped; in my opinion the Cheltenham Festival could be too early after a'break' of over two years, but Aintree is a probability if recent quick assertions had not taken their toll. It is also very rare that a horse after an injury 'break' eg Sprinter Sacre, recovers its previous lofty ratings.
Report wellchief January 17, 2016 11:02 AM GMT
Without doubt he had the potential to go to the very top if he hadn't got injured, but it will always be a tough ask after 2.5 years off. Recent ones like Last Instalment and Weapons Amnesty spring to mind, and I'd put Pont in that category of unfulfilled potential.

He was a good hurdler, who probably should have been in the Albert Bartlett looking back, but he always looked like he'd be a really good chaser.

I personally think he is being written off a bit quickly. That was his 6th race of his life and second over fences! I think there is more to come and Willie thinks he'll improve a lot. Considering Mullins can do no wrong at the moment, you'd have to take him at his word.
Report wellchief January 17, 2016 11:03 AM GMT
Agree Impossible.
Report moat January 17, 2016 1:01 PM GMT
Disert this horse at your peril its a good one and done nothing this year to suggest he will not be a force in the staying novice arena this year
Report The Dragon January 18, 2016 1:56 PM GMT
RSA CHASE
PONT ALEXANDRE – Looked good when making a winning comeback after two years off the track at Punchestown recently and this former Grade 1 winner over hurdles is likely to end up the stable’s number one choice for this contest with a trouble-free passage to the festival.
Report Can't Catch Me January 18, 2016 2:00 PM GMT
Dragon. That is outdated now as it was put up before his last run.
Post Your Reply
<CTRL+Enter> to submit
Please login to post a reply.

Wonder

Instance ID: 13539
www.betfair.com