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Cheltenham Festival
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2015 Gold Cup set up to be worst for many years -
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Taquin Du Soleil and Silvanacio Conti - Did not run like potential champions today.
May as well move the Gold Cup to Market Rasen :) |
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Cue Card - Are you having a bubble
Holywell - As much as i have berated this horse, he is the only one of the disappointments that was not that bad... Still never wins a "good" Gold Cup. So, where are ya's? Brandyontherocks?> How does your list look now? Terrible, and only gonna get worst... Should be 25/1 the field. |
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So, where are ya's? Brandyontherocks?>
Today Sheikh I am in a small disused office, bound and gagged with two transvestites and an over weight dominatrix. |
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^^^^brandy is lucky at cards too^^^^
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Just looking at the King George list and as said above, the 3 mile division is a hard one to sort out at the moment. Simonsig might be a long way the best if he stays but Bobs Worth could be a factor if coming back to 2013 form. The Gold cup form from last March has not been advertised by any of the front 4 as yet.
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agree ^^^ bizzare scene
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Brandy ... god bless ya.
Sounds like the old Fr.ed D.one shop in sunny salford i used to frequent. I wish you luck sir :) |
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Agree that no one horse sticks out right now, I can see sizing Europe having a go at it this season the still has plenty zest going on punchestown spring and the way he stayed on to mow down Road to riches last time was a joy to watch and we seen what that horse done on Saturday past when it ran a few potential gold cup horses ragged! And it's well known the pots would have loved to have run him in the big 1!that and the fact he seldom ever runs a stinker at Cheltenham! I think he would have a massive each way shout!
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Wow Blackballed, never saw that coming. 13yr old come March, having never run over the trip. REALLY!!!! Good luck with that project, would be an amazing spectacle and truly would be the worst Gold Cup ever.
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Sizing Europe simply does not stay. Still think Bobs Worth looks the most likely winner.
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What's age got to do with it he might be going on a teenager but he beat a very good race fit horse first time out who went on to show how good he is! The trip might be an unknown but no more then it is for the likes of a few others! So don't see why it would be without possibility! These things happen as upto Saturday mehora hadn't won over that trip! Not saying it will win but can't see them going champion chase and the owners would most probably rather give him a crack at it over the Ryanair since its bound to be his last race! That's even if he don't get retired before then each to there own fella! But I would love nothing more than seeing one of my favourite horses run well on the day
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Ps I know it's unlikely he will stay but could still see him run a cracker! Of the younger ones I would go for smad place to win again good record at that time of year and not far away in rsa, don't really like conti, bobs worth etc so most defo see a younger horse improve past the so called bigger guns!
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I'd be absolutely amazed if Sizing Europe even has an entry. The horse has been great over the years but the Gold Cup is way too hard for him now. I really believe the winner will not have run in The Gold Cup before and that's where I'll be concentrating.
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I know SE has not run in it previously, before somebody tells me.
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He ain't even in the betfair market for the Ryanair which surprised me as it's the more likely option you would think. I like you see a newbie winning the gold cup next March!
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smad place to win again?
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I think we could see something from a staying chaser improving through the season and being one of the favourites on the day.
I was impressed with Mendip Express yesterday. Before the Newbury race where Smad Place beat him then he was only 1lb behind him on official ratings. He is a Cheltenham winner over 3m 2f. I can accept he was wrong towards the end of last season. I may be wide of the mark with Mendip Express and he is not even quoted in the betting but a win in the Welsh Nat could see him progress into being a fancy. |
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I dont understand how anyone can say the 2014 GC was worse than the 2012 and 2013 running. After all the 2013 winner finished 4th in 2014 and The Giant Bolster has finished 2nd 4th and 3rd in the last three runnings. I agree totally with whoever said one has to wait until after the race to decide on the quality. The Gold Cup is decided by the last two and a half furlongs and the hill and there are not many who can come through that test in a truly run race. Besides there are very few who can do that with style. But the race is over 3 miles and 2 1/2 furlongs and the class of the race is determined by how well the field can handle that test. Having a bundle of classy (?) 2m 4f and 2m 6f horses in the field would not raise the class of the race (or even 3 milers).
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Have the feelings changed on this subject? Definitely not for me.
Still shapes up as a race lacking ANY star quality. |
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anybody aware on when morning assembley starts his season? taken a few juicy prices on him for the gold cup..after all r.s.a form going into the gold cup is usually pretty solid..i agree however it is wide open this year something needs to step up and show they are a worthy contender..cheers
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At last, 2 performances that make the race a little more exciting...
R2R and Silvanacio... may not be a complete washout after all. |
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I think the Gold Cup is shaping up to be one of the races of the festival at this point.
Silviniaco Conti- has been far and away the best staying chaser this season but has it all to prove at Cheltenham Many Clouds- young(ish) Hennessy and Argento winner who looks as tough as they come Road to Riches- looks a completely different horse this year and in with a chance Coneygree- 5/6 over obstacles, 3/3 over fences, exciting to see a novice pitched into open company Djakadam- still 'could-be-anything' and I was really impressed with last time. Has to step up but certainly has the potential Carlingford Lough- get the feeling he'll be a shorter price come the day, proper stayer and a decent chance of picking up the pieces should some falter in front Throw in Bobs Worth and Lord Windermere and it's hard to argue it's a poor renewal.Admittedly it isn't Kauto, Denman and the commander but then what is? |
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certainly looks a lot better than the 9 runner renewal in 2013 when Bobs Worth beat Sir Des Champs and Long Run, subsequent events have proven that to be a very weak heat indeed
only Silviniaco Conti, who fell, has achieved anything from that race |
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Most competitive gold cup I can remember.
Absolutely fascinating race,really looking forward to it. |
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Yes agree competitive no awaiting superstar,any of 10 could win at present. But will be giving Conti one last chance on day as think he will drift to decent price. At present on Djakadam 50/1 Carlingford Lough 33/1 and Smad Place, all have some sort of chance.
Will wait few weeks and lay back some of above,for my free bet on Conti. |
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It's funny how much a few months can change things. I agreed with the OP at first, but now I think it looks a cracker. Conti is the class horse, but with Cheltenham question marks and a number of improvers in the field, it's a very intriguing race.
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intriguiny yes, classy 1/7 not
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judorick • February 12, 2015 5:21 PM GMT
certainly looks a lot better than the 9 runner renewal in 2013 when Bobs Worth beat Sir Des Champs and Long Run, subsequent events have proven that to be a very weak heat indeed only Silviniaco Conti, who fell, has achieved anything from that race....v hars h bobs worth won the lexus |
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From a "punting' perspective (and that's how we should always really approach it, I think it is possibly the most intriguing race over the festival.
Still sorely lacking a superstar but that won't be a worry when about 9 of em are in a line coming to 2 out with everything in with a chance of winning :) Just have a sneaky suspicion that the gambling gods are gonna throw this and the National McCoys way! Wouldn't that be something to see! Good banter folks! |
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Think that my title should have been changed as it was one of the best "gold cup' races i have seen in a long time, think that my initial assesment was spot on at time of writing, they WERE a bunch of pigs and the 1st 3 were not even in the betting when we first made analysis !!
Great Job by me and yep I lumped on Coneygree :) I am amazing... Your all very welcome  |
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apologies from me
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It may well have been the best gold cup since the 2011 running with Denman, Long Run, Kauto Star & Imperial Commander. Certainly you would have to say it was better than last year when you consider how far down the field the other horses involved in th finish last year were today. It also proves that the lifespan of a top chaser is short and it takes a special one to come back multiple times. There are a whole host of exciting young chasers to look forward to next season with Don Poli, Coneygree, Djakadam and Vautour.
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Next year ..if they arrive sound - could possibly the best for a long long time
Coneygree - Vautour and Don Poli.... Wow |