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By:
chief dan
When: 02 Mar 14 18:01
yea hes mintWink
By:
HaylingBilly
When: 02 Mar 14 18:02
..other than when he fell on his ass…….
By:
HaylingBilly
When: 02 Mar 14 18:04
and bit his tongue………other than that he looks champion….
By:
buddeliea
When: 02 Mar 14 18:06
best rip up my rsa bet then

Laugh
By:
Quvega
When: 02 Mar 14 18:07
Your'e alright bud. Fitz says while its not a positive, it's not a negative either Laugh
By:
buddeliea
When: 02 Mar 14 18:08
that's ok then
Laugh
By:
cmacedin
When: 02 Mar 14 18:11
Quite a nasty fall with the horse bleeding at the mouth. Not sure it was wise to remount and take another jump. Horse must be sore.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 18:12
says it as it is fitzy !
By:
GI MAC
When: 02 Mar 14 18:13
Betfred pushed their price out....
By:
cmacedin
When: 02 Mar 14 18:15
I liked fitzgerald OK as a rider but he doesn't half talk a lot of mince.
By:
alleged22
When: 02 Mar 14 18:19
was the fall really that bad if he remounted and jumped another fence????

I havnt seen the footage....
By:
GI MAC
When: 02 Mar 14 18:24
wasn't a horror fall by any means, sprawled himself and slid along the ground, he got up straightaway and jumped the next fence on his own.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 18:25
thing is alleged the horse has had limited experience in mainly small fields and with the likely bigger field rsa and hustle and bustle its not ideal ,very nice horse and could still be anything just not what you want 8 days before the festival .
By:
Smart Predator
When: 02 Mar 14 18:27
The horse looked quite keen going into the fence and kind of slipped on landing.. he then got up and flew the next, after they caught him Ruby jumped back on and jumped the last. Other than the bit tongue he doesn't look that bad. the only thing is now though is will he be running free in the RSA and end up on the deck like Boston Bob did last year. shame he didn't manage to get one more run in before Cheltenham.
By:
Quvega
When: 02 Mar 14 18:27
Didn't think it was a bad fall personally, looked like mixed messages between horse & jockey, trying to get him to slow down a bit, seemed to change his mind about take off and sprawled on landing. Still, not ideal though.
By:
alleged22
When: 02 Mar 14 18:38
thanks for the replies Happy
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Mar 14 18:45
so a jockey cant remount in a race because its decided they arnt the best person to judge a horses conditionmbut even with a bleeding mouth its alrite for ruby to hop back on and away we go,Confused. com
By:
buddeliea
When: 02 Mar 14 18:48
their were discussions going on before Ruby remounted,he then popped 1 fence and that was that.

Not at all dramatic.
By:
buddeliea
When: 02 Mar 14 18:50
I would think this sort of thing goes on in every training yard on a regular basis.
By:
cmacedin
When: 02 Mar 14 19:08
Various opinions on the fall but if a vet had looked at the horse it would not have jumped another fence.
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Mar 14 19:16
thought it was quite a pearler myself
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 02 Mar 14 19:18
Bolux

Devil
By:
cmacedin
When: 02 Mar 14 19:31
The rules on remounting were changed because Jockeys including Ruby Walsh had in the past, remounted injured horses and were deemed not the best judges of a horses condition after a fall. Now from some posts it seems that it is possible to view fall on TV and decide the horse is fine. Please note that a fall does not have to be dramatic to cause injury. If the horse had fallen again after remounting there would have been an outcry. Still a possibility that the horse will not be fit to run soon and therefore the risk to jump another fence should not have been taken.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 02 Mar 14 19:34
Not seen it but a bit surprised he fell schooling. Jumped super in the Moriarty and he would have been schooling slower than in a race.
By:
Tory
When: 02 Mar 14 22:14
Then you need to watch it FF. The horse was pulling Ruby's arms out trying to go too fast - ruby was thing to rein it back it in but he was having none of it.

As long as the horse is ok this may be no bad thing. Horse learnt a valuable lesson today and some much needed experience
By:
quantize
When: 02 Mar 14 22:21
In Ireland the remount rules don't exist in a race don't they? Thought it was a BHA rule
By:
The Scobster
When: 02 Mar 14 22:38
The schooling fall is now on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KttR-Il60L8
By:
alleged22
When: 02 Mar 14 22:52
after watching it, you,d have to think he,s having a break and maybe missing another festival, all he,ll be doing in the next week is swimming and on the walker


another antepost down the pan......
By:
DECALEC
When: 02 Mar 14 23:04
cmacedin
02 Mar 14 19:31
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The rules on remounting were changed because Jockeys including Ruby Walsh had in the past, remounted injured horses and were deemed not the best judges of a horses condition after a fall. Now from some posts it seems that it is possible to view fall on TV and decide the horse is fine. Please note that a fall does not have to be dramatic to cause injury. If the horse had fallen again after remounting there would have been an outcry. Still a possibility that the horse will not be fit to run soon and therefore the risk to jump another fence should not have been taken.SO HOW MANY HORSES HAVE YOU SCHOOLED THEN AND KEEP YOUR FORIEGN LAWS TO YOURSELF Laugh
By:
Tory
When: 02 Mar 14 23:13
I didn't think it was an awful fall Alleged to be honest - more skidded along the deck than landed with a great thud.

Don't get me wrong, it's less than ideal but the horse will already be 100% fit and there's a week and a half before he races. He got up straight away and pinged the next one - just minus ruby!!
By:
Arklearkle
When: 02 Mar 14 23:31
No big deal remounting if the horse is ok. Just some do-gooders in UK got the rules changed just like they have ruined the Grand National.
By:
alleged22
When: 02 Mar 14 23:32
soz tory im all over this horse for the festival, but it won,t happen now imo,

I hope im wrong Sad
By:
Tory
When: 03 Mar 14 00:24
So am I - 36.0 on here, 33/1 SJ, 390/1 with Faugheen EW.

Even before today I was extremely dubious about its chances due to not having had 3 chase starts and a general lack of experience. I do still think it will run though as really didn't think it was all that bad a fall
By:
buddeliea
When: 03 Mar 14 07:54
Absolutely nowt to fret about.
He had a fall schooling. It Happens.
Hes jumped fine in his races thus far.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 03 Mar 14 08:00
Had a look at the clip on youtube. Horse was very fresh and defo tried to cart Ruby going into the fence. Hope he's all right but suspect they won't properly know until this morning.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 03 Mar 14 08:00
He's my main antepost bet and I wasn't too concerned about that tbh.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Mar 14 08:09
Think that is putting a brace face on it tbh. He was under prepared anyway and what happened yesterday just tells you why. It's instances like this that bring back memories of all the other inexperienced chasers WPM has sent into Grade 1 company only for them to fall. MDH, Flat Out, Boston Bob. Really don't see how this is not a ibg concern for the RSA favourite. Will his jumping hold up over the last two fences at Cheltenham over a trip he's never been tested at?? Shocking price for me.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Mar 14 08:10
*brave face Laugh I mean
By:
marychain1
When: 03 Mar 14 08:29
brace face sounds like something you called the kid at school who was having orthodontic treatment done
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