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Quvega
25 Feb 14 19:52
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The New One for me. Backed at 8/1 quite early on but have really gone off him. His jumping has not impressed me overly and I'm beginning to feel that he is one who has to have everything fall right for him. I would like to have seen a little more adaptability to the unfolding circumstances in his races this season.
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Report onehundredandeighty February 25, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
Decent trade tho if you have lost all confidence
Report Quvega February 25, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
Will probably put up an in running lay on the day now I think.
Report sageform February 25, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
Cue Card for the Ryanair. Firstly they decide on the GC and now he is not running at all.
I can't see why The New One is any more or less likely to win than he was 2 months ago but I can't see why MTOY won't beat him again either.
Report Haemolysis February 25, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
How can you have gone off that? Its 3/1 favourite you nob. Here's a proper one - I backed Grandouet at 10/1 for the Arkle before it'd jumped a fence. Shoot me now!
Report Quvega February 25, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
Laugh Just not convinced that he is adaptable enough to changing circumstances during a race or when making a mistake. Eg HF seems able to adapt his running to differing race conditions, fast pace, slow pace.

Good luck with Grandouet Crazy
Report Haemolysis February 25, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
I don't need good luck because I don't create threads that at first appear like they might be self deprecating, but actually are just an oppo to have a bit of a brag.
Report Quvega February 25, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
Was nothing of the sort. Thought it might be interesting to see how peoples opinions had changed from their early season fancies.

Why are you so cynical, we're not all out to see who's got the biggest bestest bet, just to enjoy the build up to the festival.
Report Haemolysis February 25, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
Whatever dude, jog on.
Report Howdi February 25, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
Haemolysis  • February 25, 2014 8:07 PM GMT 


How can you have gone off that? Its 3/1 favourite you nob. Here's a proper one - I backed Grandouet at 10/1 for the Arkle before it'd jumped a fence. Shoot me now! Laugh
Report jasey February 25, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
Well i wouldn't mind a bit of TNO@8/1.
Plinth @20s
Grandouet@12s are mine
Report sageform February 25, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
Sire de Grugy at 5/2 NRNB. I have not gone off it yet although plenty on here seem to doubt him.
Report sintonian February 25, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
I have Calipto at 16/1, now tops 7/1, but gone off him due to the fact they waited 2 months to run again and he has little experience. Won't be trading though.
Report Andymca February 25, 2014 8:55 PM GMT
Balthazar King 7/1 in the x countrycountry

Was hoping that Big Shu was going the national route and can't see him getting beat in this now
Report bazzar February 26, 2014 4:00 PM GMT
WYCK HILL National even with 15 above him taken out, still
needs 41 more to come out, not much chance.
Report nostaw_01 February 26, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
Grandouet for the Arkle @ 10/1!! Backed him in October in the hope he'd be a natural over larger obstacles.
Turns out that sometimes trying to be smart in the short term makes you look stupid in the long term Confused
Report Tucho February 26, 2014 4:26 PM GMT
tbf nostaw, if you'd done that with hendo's potential superstars for the last 3 years you'd be quids in

you could have had sprinter sacre and simonsig for the arkle at that kind of price before they jumped a fence in public too

it's just if you jumped in for the first time this year you'd be cursing
Report Tucho February 26, 2014 4:27 PM GMT
didn't back sprinter or simonsig btw, i'm not trying to be smart Silly
Report BlazingWalker February 26, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
Alderwood Qm Chase Cry
Report Roger The Butler February 26, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
At Fishers Cross (in a double with Champagne Fever) - backed him at 4/1 before the Newbury debacle that I thought would be a cakewalk and propel him into 2/1 favourite. Could have got 16/1 after the Ascot debacle and still wouldn't have wanted it by that stage. Some encouragement last time but not enough for me to think he has a serious chance. Would happily cancel the bet now.

Also have AFC in a bet with Sprinter Sacre - compared to Sprinter Sacre AFC looks like a certainty so everything is relative!

Not my year this time. Got to take it on the chin and crack on again in 9 months time or so.
Report rogerthebutler February 26, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
Plinth looks an exercise in futility now
Report nostaw_01 February 26, 2014 4:56 PM GMT
You're right Tucho, I did get in at the wrong time but I think the difference between SS, Simonsig and Grandouet is the first two went chasing straight from their novice hurdling campaigns whereas Grandouet was kept hurdling for two years. I know he's only 7 but I don't think it's an ideal way to prepare novice chasers. That's just a personal opinion, and is probably the reason I don't fancy ROR this year as well. But if one of them wins I am more than happy to completely change my perception of seasoned hurdlers going novice chasing!
Report rogerthebutler February 26, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
Forgotten about Boston Bob for the Gold Cup.

Sp-unked that up the wall a treat.
Report sintonian February 26, 2014 5:47 PM GMT
I assumed this thread was about ante-post positions that now look good, i.e odds have significantly shortened, rather than bets they may still run that look shockers. I have about 5 or 6 of those! Laugh Boston Bob is one but for the WH. I hope they don't run in a way  as it is one of the few NRNB bets I have!
Report wellchief February 26, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
Backed Felix for the Jewson many months ago at 25's and layed my stake off at 12's (I think) when he looked Arkle bound, so effetively a free bet at 13/1.  Don't fancy him at all for that though because he should be in the Arkle and I don't see him winning over the longer trip.
Report thornton reed February 26, 2014 6:07 PM GMT
Melodic Rendezvous at big prices on here and 40s NRFB. A very likeable horse but can't see him beating the likes of MTOY or the Fly.

Rule The World at 20s NRFB also. Can't see him staying the trip and unsure whether to trade. Around 8s with the books but 13.5 on here. Really can't see him going close.

They were my first two antepost bets too.

Of the better ones I have FL and Menorah for the Ryanair at 50ish and Last Installment NRNB at decent prices.

Vicenzo Mio another shocker though.
Report kavvie February 26, 2014 6:08 PM GMT
caid du berlais in jlt and double irish in a bartlett..more of a chance of hell freezing over than either of them even running id say sadly
Report Eeternaloptimist February 26, 2014 6:19 PM GMT
This is a happy old thread.

I backed two after Cheltenham in December. More Of That at 8-1 for the World Hurdle and King's Palace at 5-1 for the Potato Race with Laddies. Both are shorter with the books but both being off for the best part of three months doesn't fill me with confidence and I did expect MOT to have at least one more race for experience and will now be a little surprised if he turns up.
Report Ramruma February 26, 2014 6:46 PM GMT
Felix Yonger for the JLT (like @wellchief) -- after Boxing Day I don't think he stays and is in the wrong race.
Report Quvega February 26, 2014 6:55 PM GMT
Sint, I was interested in peoples ante posts that they had gone right off, regardless of if price has shortened or lengthened really, and the reasons why.

My op was one that has shortened but also got some that are bigger now such as Racing Pulse in Nep 25/1 who can now be backed at a whopping 300s!
Report foolsgold123 February 26, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
I wouldn't write of Boston Bob gold cup just yet.
Report gutfeeling February 27, 2014 3:35 AM GMT
At Fishers Cross-Thought he was the second coming last season and loaded up through the summer, Little did i know his arthritis was as bad as it is, Two god-awful runs with a fair run in the Cleeve when i half expected him to be unbeaten at this stage of the season with me riding a free bet is not how i foresaw this bet going at all,  I now doubt i'll be collecting a bean on him and can't even lay off as the liabilities would be more than i can afford to expose myself to on here Bets placed with Paddys so have nothing on WH market here), Hope i do but i'll watch the race thinking there goes a shitload of cash down the toilet and tbh McCoy has never done me a favour yet, He's my bock jockey bar last seasons AB.
best of luck to the rest of you, Hope one or most of us are wrong to have gone cold on our fancies.
Report Ballydoyle February 27, 2014 2:54 PM GMT
Morning Assembly RSA

Last 50 winners ran in same calendar year. Fooked without a prep.
Report Ballydoyle February 27, 2014 2:54 PM GMT
Took him at 16-1 and want to be getting out of it. Don't think he's that good anyway to be honest
Report sintonian February 27, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
will be 8/1 or less on the day, esp so given he's price wise. May as well wait to trade.
Report wellchief February 27, 2014 4:57 PM GMT
I'll happily buy that 16's off you Bally.
Report wondersobright February 27, 2014 5:23 PM GMT
have had 4 A/P bets on horses so far

champagne fever 5/1
the new one 8/1
our conor 8/1
bobs worth 6/1

haven't gone of any of them Cool

though did back henderson top festival trainer 7/4 before simonsig + sprinter were both ruled out Sad
Report Harvester February 27, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
Mijhaar @ 27-1 for supreme... Crazy
Report Numismatist February 27, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
First ante's were Shutthefrontdoor 20s RSA and Royal Irish Hussar at 16s for the Triumph after the November meeting.
First one looks a dead duck but reckon he'll run a big 'un whichever race he turns up in.
Not ahead of the price with RIH but having thought it was doomed post Donny, really like it again now.
Watched his beating of Guitar Pete back again and really impressed with that finishing effort up the hill.
Report atho March 1, 2014 6:48 AM GMT
mine annie power at21 upwards for ch im confident it will win at chelts just wrong race thanks to mr mullins trying to wrap hf up in cotton wool and taking the opposition away just so ruby can have a chance in world hurdle
Report willie the milk March 1, 2014 1:05 PM GMT
Bet Rock on Ruby @ 12s for the Arkle but does not have an Arkle winners's profile. 9yo, Champion Hurdlers don't win Arkle's and neither do front runners. Also it has only had 2 chases and beat 3 rivals, one of which fell so laid it back at 6.86 and have 5 spots to FA but it wont winShocked
Report differentdrum March 2, 2014 9:40 AM GMT
Foxrock at double figures but very concerned about his very deliberate jumping (whatever the ground) and the likelihood Katie Walsh will take the ride.
Report cufcno1 March 2, 2014 9:44 AM GMT
willie rock on ruby was always gonna be 9 before you bet it,has now done nothing wrong and on decent ground wont be out the 1st 2, champagne fever will front run !
Report Ballydoyle March 2, 2014 10:05 AM GMT
Champagne Fever won't front run. Walsh says thats how he got him beat LTO..will sit in behind Rock On Ruby.
Report differentdrum March 2, 2014 10:20 AM GMT
Defy Logic taking him on got him beat. Champagne Fever has never won from behind. If he can't lead in the Arkle I would have serious doubts about him finishing in the three.
Report Ballydoyle March 2, 2014 10:22 AM GMT
We'll see
Report cufcno1 March 2, 2014 10:25 AM GMT
im not arsed between the 2 of them they will be in front,and nothing will come from behind,he says lol !
Report differentdrum March 2, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
You would have thought if Ruby intended to take a lead he might have had a little practice in the gallop?
Report Facts March 3, 2014 2:45 AM GMT
I bet OP is regretting creating this thread with miserable gits like Haemolysis around !
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