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eric_morris
02 Feb 14 16:16
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Well it's that time of year again when the quiz of the month begins with prizes handed out to all those that can guess the correct answer! .. er well it has to win the race as well but no problem we'll take that unnecessary risk as we all love a challenge as do the bookies in this case!


Come on down for the Willie Wontie 'Willie (expert hurdle trainer can't train a novice chaser to jump and out of novice chaser to stay in training longer than 2 minutes trainer) Mullins' 5-Dimensional Swingometer Cheltenham Festival Peter Snow Memorial Even Though He's Still Alive Bonanza Challenge!

I was going to come up with a snappier title but hey there is no hurry and I can always change my mind right at the last minute once my plans for the title have already been finalized!

The horse in question is Annie Power and we have a 5 dimensional Swingometer so 'Will(sh)ie Wont(sh)ie' go for the -

a) Mares Hurdle (1%)
b) World Hurdle (30%)
c) Champion Hurdle (30%)
d) Aintree Hurdle (30%)
e) None of the above (9%)

The factors are the owners opinion, the trainers opinion, the jockeys opinion, the bloke on the Betfair Cheltenham 2014 forum who starts an 'Open Letter to Mr Ricci' thread to appeal with a nonsensical pocket talking argument as he has £2 at 1000/1 for any of a) to d) races, journalist Dave Yates random argument generator on racing tv where 1000 words could be said in 10, the ground, the time of the month for Annie Power, whether the supermoon will coincide with the summer solstice, which favourite lucky hat Willie Mullins chooses for this years Festival, whether the jockey has analysed Big Bucks return and worked out to the pound where he will announce he will hit his flatspot to psyche out Nicholls, none of the aforesaid as it is easier to measure the paradoxical whereabouts of Schrodinger's Cat using Quantum Theory .. Annie Power may exist or not exist depending on an earlier random event, if she doesnt then please ignore this Swingometer!

So if this topic read as though it was a pish take I can assure you it definitely was... or maybe it was.. can't decide to be honest with you but rest assured I will be changing my mind come March the 11th 2014 when Willie Wontie becomes No Lookie, No Likee, No Take The Pishee or FerfooksakehesaidtheoppositelastweekNoLikee!
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Report Autocue February 2, 2014 5:05 PM GMT
Swinging towards the world hurdle imo now the owner has left the decision to Willie. Obviously Ruby already favours that option as he gets three great rides.
Report Ramruma February 2, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
Too easy. Look at the novice hurdles (and tbh I got too bored to include the Triumph).

Supreme Neptune Albert Bartlett
Abbyssial maybe
Adriana Des Mottes maybe
Aklan maybe maybe maybe
Alonso maybe
Arctic Fire maybe
Briar Hill maybe maybe maybe
City Slicker maybe maybe
Clonard Lad maybe
Clondaw Court maybe maybe maybe
Don Poli maybe
Faugheen maybe maybe maybe
Gitane Du Berlais maybe maybe
Ivan Grozny maybe
Lucky Bridle maybe
Moyle Park maybe maybe maybe
Noble Inn maybe
Perfect Gentleman maybe
Pink Hat maybe maybe
Rathvinden maybe maybe maybe
Renneti maybe maybe maybe
Sure Reef maybe maybe maybe
Upazo maybe maybe maybe
Urano maybe maybe
Urticaire maybe maybe
Valseur Lido maybe maybe maybe
Vautour maybe maybe maybe
Vicky De L'Oasis maybe maybe
Wicklow Brave maybe
Wicklow Gold maybe
Report Ballydoyle February 2, 2014 6:44 PM GMT
Yet another thread that talks about the indecision of Willie Mullins...anyone else as bored as me now?
Report Autocue February 2, 2014 7:09 PM GMT
He makes his mind up when he's ready and certainly not before he has to. Seems to make a hell of a lot of good decisions judging by his record. I wouldn't have him down as somebody who suffers from indecision. Anyway he's probably already decided AP will run in the world hurdle Wink
Report quantize February 2, 2014 7:29 PM GMT
If anyone wants to make the decisions then buy a horse, send it to Willie and then decide.
Report eric_morris February 2, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
Remember... the clue is in the question ... Will(sh)ie or Wont(sh)ie. You get nothing for a pair of races .. not in this game!! Correct races make prizes ... what do correct races make? Yes, that's right ... prizes (but only if she wins)!!!
Report eric_morris February 2, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
Willie or Wontie. That's Willie or Wontie Faugheen run in the Neptune .. prizes on offer for those who get it right, but only if he wins as well! Make sure to back him for every race to avoid disappointment and get Evs for him to win any of those races .. amazing value .. or you could wait until his target is declared by which time there will be no value left.

So there we are Evens or a none runner or no value when his target is declared late ... it's a wonderful game for punters is Willie Wontie! Bookies love a Bit Of Willie Wontie!
Report Ballydoyle February 4, 2014 5:38 PM GMT
EvensLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report tomdeane February 4, 2014 5:46 PM GMT
whether the jockey has analysed Big Bucks return and worked out to the pound where he will announce he will hit his flatspot to psyche out Nicholls

Love the opening post and this bit is gold
Report Graeme83 February 4, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
Eric, can you say willie or wontie again, we never saw it the first one million times. Okay, we get it, you cracked a joke and it's now your trademark. Willie or wontie lolz haha omfg roflmao lol roflmao omg. Ewic Mowis you are sooo funny.
Report eric_morris February 4, 2014 6:52 PM GMT
Not quite right. Remember the clue is in the question .. it is Will(sh)ie or Wont(sh)ie, Will(sh)ie Wont(sh)ie... the bookies love a bit of Willie Wontie.
Report Graeme83 February 4, 2014 6:59 PM GMT
No..it's willie(will he) or wontie(won't he). It's a sort of Scottish pronunciation, so you must have nicked it from someone else. Next time i think the punters will run to the 'to win any race' with Hills. You'll know after Sunday. If Vautour runs well he will go supreme, Faugheen neptune and Briar Hill stayers race. If Ballycasey doesn't run in the Moriarty, i doubt he will go anywhere. If he runs well i think he will go for the 4 miler.
Report Graeme83 February 4, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
edit - if Ballycasey run and wins the Moriarty, it would be the rsa.
Report ST NICHOLAS ABBEY February 4, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
Annie power next year ARKLE - JEWSON - RSA - GOLD CUP Confused
Report eric_morris February 4, 2014 7:09 PM GMT
Again, not quite right. A native of Scotland would say Well(sh)ay Woant(sh)ay when referring to Annie Power. This is grammatically not the same example as Sean Connery pronouncing Splendid as Shplended.
Report alleged22 February 4, 2014 7:24 PM GMT
^^^^^^^^^^^ who gives a toss lets talk horses Laugh
Report Graeme83 February 4, 2014 7:52 PM GMT
"Again, not quite right. A native of Scotland would say Well(sh)ay Woant(sh)ay when referring to Annie Power. This is grammatically not the same example as Sean Connery pronouncing Splendid as Shplended. "



No, you're wrong. That's how someone doing a bad impression of a Scottish person would pronounce things. It's Willie(will he) or wontie(won't he). Will he send it to the rsa, or won't he.  I was born in republican Glasgow.
Report alleged22 February 4, 2014 7:56 PM GMT
loyalist Glasgow Wink
Report Graeme83 February 4, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
Liquidation face SadWink
Report Autocue February 5, 2014 5:48 PM GMT
eric_morris is a sh1te...for shore eyesh
Report gutfeeling February 5, 2014 9:58 PM GMT
I for one am delighted eric has moved away from comedy and given up tipping horses in favour of some kind of satire based approach to his posts.
Report Patented February 6, 2014 12:04 AM GMT
Mullins is the best trainer in Ireland or England by a country mile
Report Spirit February 6, 2014 11:04 AM GMT
When was his last Gold Cup winner,not a top trainer of chasers in my book,over runs them and they always seem to have problems.
Report festivalfanatic February 6, 2014 11:09 AM GMT
I don't know if he is the best trainer or not. What we do know is that many of jump racing's most wealthy patrons send their best/most expensve talent to him and this is a progressive trend - he probably has the most talented crop of horses now that he has ever had.
Report Arklearkle February 6, 2014 11:25 AM GMT
Spirit plenty of trainers have plenty of problems with horses but one only normally hears about the better horses (Big Bucks, Alferof, Sprinter Sacre, Simonsig, Denman, Imperial Commander, Weapons Amnesty, Solwhit, Tidal Bay, Finians Rainbow, Last Instalment, Binocular .......................................... etc etc etc)
Report buddeliea February 6, 2014 12:23 PM GMT
None of us know of hes the best trainer.
I for one think theres a few in Ireland just as good as well as over here.
Country mile??......cant have that. No real evidence behind such a sweeping statement.
Report buddeliea February 6, 2014 12:24 PM GMT
And his chasers seem to have problems pretty consistently it appears.
Report Arklearkle February 6, 2014 12:45 PM GMT
Budd I am surprised you say that. Would you have anything to prove that he has more problems than any other trainer.
Report buddeliea February 6, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
No mate,i have no concrete proof to hand,and I may be being unfair to him.
Just Cant think of many chasers hes had fit for years,like for instance Nicholls seems to manage.
Report sintonian February 6, 2014 1:00 PM GMT
He's not in the same parish as PFN when it comes to chasers. Of all the blue riband events, Champion Chases, Gold Cup, King George etc etc WPM has won 4 or 5 ? PFN has near 20 or so!
Report Spirit February 6, 2014 1:35 PM GMT
The problems he has,injuries aside,is his ability to get them jumping in my opinion,lots of top class novices come through his hands and they dont seem to make the grade.He is a very good trainer of hurdlers with all the good horses being sent to him.If I owned a chaser, I would not send it to mullins.
Report Ballydoyle February 6, 2014 2:41 PM GMT
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Mullins is the best trainer in Ireland or England by a country mile
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Report buddeliea February 6, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
Say what u mean Bally!! Laugh
Report buddeliea February 6, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
Do agree though!!
Report Ballydoyle February 6, 2014 5:25 PM GMT
Behind Nicholls and Hendo for a start.

How many Gold Cups is it again?
Hendo multiple champion hurdlers...how many Mullins had?
World Hurdlers?
Ryanairs?
Arkles?

Mullins looks far superior in Ireland cos there's no competition. If OBrien and "the lads" took it serious Mullins would be muckin out for them.
Report Ballydoyle February 6, 2014 5:26 PM GMT
Hendo for Hurdlers
Nicholls for Chasers

End of
Report Patented February 6, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
All in good time ballydoyle. All in good time
Report Ballydoyle February 6, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
No mate not reallyLaugh yer man has been on the go a while....
Report Arklearkle February 6, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
No one can deny the brilliant records of both NJH and PFN but it is only in the last few years that WPM has had the numbers to compete with them. NJH still has a very strong crop and PFN no doubt will be back competing very soon (if he ever went away) but I can see WPM dominating over the next four to five years. I would be surprised if he is not leading trainer at the festival this year although the festival has a habit of surprising us most years. Other trainers have been relatively slow in running their NH horses in the top races in France and his campaigning of Blackstair Mountain in Japan last year tells us plenty.
Report alleged22 February 6, 2014 10:41 PM GMT
I think its all a bit too much for mullie having so much talent in the yard, he,s finding it too hard to place his horses as it is, the best horses need to face each other for the spirit of the game imo just to keep this sport we love honest....
Report Graeme83 February 6, 2014 10:53 PM GMT
mullie wullins ?
Report alleged22 February 6, 2014 10:58 PM GMT
aye wullie mullie, if he don't know, how are we supposed to perceive things?
Report Graeme83 February 6, 2014 11:06 PM GMT
Sometimes horses step up to the plate just before March, and plans can change quickly. All of a sudden something shows something it wasn't before. I don't get too annoyed at anyone not spelling out where horses will be aimed, that's up to them. I get slightly irked when horses are entered in races they have absolutely no chance at appearing in. There's absolutely no need for it most of the time. Nobody is going to run away from a Mullins horse at Cheltenham, because if they do they are going to bump into another one of his anyway, so basicallyt it's pointless.
Report Patented February 6, 2014 11:45 PM GMT
Another quality post arklearkle...
Report eric_morris February 8, 2014 9:35 PM GMT
No, you're wrong. That's how someone doing a bad impression of a Scottish person would pronounce things. It's Willie(will he) or wontie(won't he). Will he send it to the rsa, or won't he.  I was born in republican Glasgow.


I say, I say ... again not quite right.

While about to have a Brazilian by laser beam possibly leading to having his nads singed off and an overcooked chipolata, Sean Connery definitely said in his own dialect to Goldfinger ..

'I shuppoje shou exshpect me to talk'

If you watch the movie again he definitely says this. Goldfinger has a double take then replies ...

'No Mr Bond I expect you to die muahahahaha'

As far as I am aware neither character said Willie Wontie during this or any other Bond movie so I feel we are going off the point a little.
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