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People keep on saying CF should go to the Jewson based on one mistake!! He was a absolutely tanking before that and certainly wasn't being done for pace. He won't make the same mistake again and neither will ruby in going toe to toe with DL.
I think FY is a great horse as well but it does appear DL is far better left handed so I'm a little sceptical about the bare form. I've covered him at 14/1 but genuinely feel the arkle would suit CF better than the Jewson. |
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For me Its based on watching all their respective races this season, not just one fence.
CF is a born stayer. Now I aint saying he cant win the Arkle,stayers do win the race. What I am saying is that FY has the best 2m chase form, and out the 2 has more chance of winning the Arkle, and out the 2 CF has the best chance of winning the Jewson. |
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I would bet all day that CF runs in the Arkle but as I often say I have been wrong before - many times!
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I totally disagree buddeliea, what evidence do you have as I for one cant see it. FY has in the main been running over 2m plus this season ( indeed over 2m 5f and on his last trip to chelt was a one paced 2nd to the mighty Simonsig over the 2m 5f Neptune where CF has won over 2 miles on his last 2 runs there in championship races. Ruby is right in wanted to test him again in the irish arkle, if he gets beaten looking one paced then so be it but its a no brainer to me to go arkle/arkle all being well....Approaching the 1/2 mile from home marker last time CF and DL were absolutely tanking...flying with good horses unable to keep up. Now im sure you may be aware that the likes of Tidal bay and the alan king staying hurdle winner ( the name escapes me atm ) both won arkles before going up in trip. Its clear most arkle horses need to stay 2 1/2m with the fierce gallop and up hill finish.
To me the mullins team WILL stick to the plan they've add all season and go CF arkle and FY Jewson if all goes well in the irish arkle. |
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We will have a much better idea a week tomorrow when the decs have been made for Sunday's race at Leopardstown. I expect CF to line up. I hope FY does too, as it should make the Cheltenham decision much easier to make and for the owners to accept though if they finish 1st and 2nd and it's close, maybe they will both be in the Arkle anyway! I just can't see Ricci accepting that CF can't have another crack at DL, especially if the speculation is correct that Ruby agrees with him.
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If I owned them both, I'd run FY in the Arkle and CF in the Jewson. Can't see that happening somehow though.
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Controversial comment coming up.....CF's last race told me he should be running in the Arkle, he made a mistake all of his own doing, a sloppy one...DL was doing nothing to him...CF was tanking all over him and was an impressive sight, he out jumped DL earlier in the race twice with a couple of spectacular leaps...walsh knows it...ricci knows it...mullins probably knows it too, but knowing that CF is special with the ability to run over several distances and be competitive, whilst thinking that perhaps FY is more one dimensional and needs the 2 miles to show his best..... is leaning toward accommodating FY in the arkle.
Being a stayer doesn't mean you ain't got pace, CF is a probable stayer but has got absolutely stacks of pace, we've seen it for heavens sake, in the supreme for one thing and last time out he went a good gallop and was still tanking until the error...he's loaded with the stuff. |
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I should say....IMO walsh THINKS it....IMO ricci THINKS it....and IMO mullins probably THINKS it.
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Istabraq,
FY has won two 2m chases beating other 2 milers,one of which is a fast 2 miler which beat CF in his only 2m chase. CF has run in one other chase,over 2 and a half m beating a stayer in 2nd. FY has run in one other chase over 2 and a half and got beat. By the way....How do you know that the plan all season has been CF in the Arkle and FY in the Jewson?? |
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Duffy,
CF was not tanking all over him,both going equally well. One ballsed up. We don't know who would have won the race had CF not ballsed up. |
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I watched every single one of FY's chases back to back the other night and whilst good, I think he lacks the X factor which may be required to win this race.
best way to settle it is for both to run in the Irish arkle and take it from there. If i were either owner then that's what I'd be demanding |
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This all sounds like something for Harry Hill to sort out
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Just an opinion, but it looked to me that CF would have gone on to win a shade comfortably but as I say, just an opinion.
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I don't know how people can be arsed talking about this day in day out personally...I got 100 Felix at 10/1 and I can't be anyway...same as all the talk over Mullins novices (who will probably all get pumped lol) no ones got a **** clue whats gonna happen for a long while yet
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I think they should campaign CF exactly as they did SDC if they think he is a potential GC horse
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My final point on the subject in answering Buddeliea is if reading the one or two other threads concerning the stable ( faugheen one springs to mind ) I have since pre hurricane fly days had 1 or 2 very good bits of information from the yard. Not information as in straight tips as that's not there style more simply horses they hold in very high esteem and there targets.....All year until 1 error by the way, 2 out at Leop CF was there ONLY arkle horse. Also if you get P Jones NH guide which is not found in most stores I ll grant you along with Mark Howards guide to the jumps WM states the same, arkle.
Good luck all. |
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fyi also this years big one was Un De Sceuax apart from the novice ranks.
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Things can change during a season,like another horse they have showing better 2m form over fences than their original choice.
Still, we shall see. Good luck to you too. |
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yep, all the best
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