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JOCI Club
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This weekend I dusted off the old spreadsheet from the 2013 Festival, and created a template for 2014, clearing out the old data, and readying it for the 'data onslaught' from early 2014 onwards. Brought back some great memories from March.

Thanks in advance to Racecaller, whose trends I rely upon greatly for much of my analysis.

Coming soon, at a spreadsheet near you..........................

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JOCI Club
When: 16 Feb 14 23:35
Arkle Chase

Preliminary rankings for the Arkle Chase on Day 1 of the Festival. These rankings may well change as and when horses in the current line-up run between now and the festival, but these are a good indication of where the trend horses are:

Dodging Bullets    92%
Trifolium    82%
Don Cossack    81%
Hinterland    79%
Balder Succes    74%

Valdez    69%
Rock On Ruby    67%
Ballycasey    63%
Fox Appeal    62%
Felix Yonger    56%
Brick Red    56%
Bright New Dawn    56%
Grandouet    56%
Defy Logic    55%
Champagne Fever    54%
Mr Mole    50%
Djakadam    49%
Ted Veale    48%
Eduard    45%
Arnaud    44%
Caid Du Berlais    44%
Raya Star    43%
Western Warhorse    38%
Mozoltov    38%
Ahyaknowyerself    37%
Ned Buntline    37%
Dark Lover    36%
Midnight Game    32%
Claret Cloak    32%
Vukovar    31%
Art Of Logistics    25%
Lord Of House    25%
Next Sensation    25%
Shrapnel    17%
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Feb 14 12:30
Don Cossack on 81% J?

Agree with CF on 54%!
By:
alleged22
When: 17 Feb 14 12:35
ballycasey above FY baffles me Confused
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Feb 14 12:37
He's won a Grade 1 and over 17f so can see why tbh.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Feb 14 20:39
Champion Hurdle preliminary long range ratings:

Hurricane Fly    75%
My Tent Or Yours    72%

Jezki    59%
Annie Power    58%
Un De Sceaux    58%
Ptit Zig    55%
The New One    55%
Our Conor    52%
Grumeti    44%
Melodic Rendezvous    41%
Thousand Stars    38%
By:
eastayrshire
When: 17 Feb 14 20:43
Appreciate the sharing and time and effort put in etc, do we get any insight into how the ratings are arrived at?
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Feb 14 20:48
Yes, too busy to type it all up here but can share my spreadsheet analysis if you wanted to drop me a message. It's all based upon 10 year trends, and each horse is assessed against each of the trends which I 'weight' according to their perceived 'importance'.

Takes a long time to assess the races, particlarly the larger handicaps, but it paid dividends last year with my best ever festival.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Feb 14 20:50
Like some trend analysis, I don't automatically rule a horse out if it doesn't comply with one of the key trends, rather I assess each orse against ALL the trends, and arrive at the most likely winner (at least in my opinion) from a statistical viewpoint.
By:
eastayrshire
When: 17 Feb 14 20:53
Sounds an eminently reasonable approach, then assign the recent form with a value/weighting, coupled with with the trends should get you bang in the ballpark, at worst def should avoid getting wiped out, at best a decent profit :-)

Message sent btw.
By:
alleged22
When: 17 Feb 14 22:34
I think I have last years still, so nothing has changed J?
By:
harry callaghan
When: 17 Feb 14 22:36
joci out of interest, had the TNO not made a mistake at the last and won at kempton what would his percentage be?
By:
gutfeeling
When: 17 Feb 14 22:42
Good Luck Joci. Hope all the hard work pays off.
Be interested to see how Sam Winner comes out on the 4 miler with you as i think he ticks a lot of boxes myself.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Feb 14 22:49
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joci out of interest, had the TNO not made a mistake at the last and won at kempton what would his percentage be?


Would put him up to 60%.

Were he to run and win between now and Cheltenham, would put him up to 74%.
By:
alleged22
When: 17 Feb 14 22:52
is the tents rating judged on a win in a jumpers bumper? (obv fits boxes by the recent run but no hurdles were jumped)
By:
harry callaghan
When: 17 Feb 14 22:55
thx joci
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Feb 14 23:02
MTOY's rating was not impacted by the bumper run. Took his prior race RPR and he'd won that race anyway.
By:
alleged22
When: 17 Feb 14 23:10
ok mate Happy
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 18 Feb 14 00:44
Last year these post by joci was awesome.

Thanks again for putting them up.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 18 Feb 14 21:39
Queen Mother Champion Chase preliminary rankings:

Benefficient    83%
Arvika Ligeonniere    82%
Sire De Grugy    80%

Sprinter Sacre    71%
Al Ferof    67%
Hinterland    66%
Module    66%
Special Tiara    52%
Somersby    50%
Kid Cassidy    49%
Captain Conan    49%
Savello    44%
Wishfull Thinking    41%
Sizing Europe    41%
Baily Green    40%
Alderwood    32%
Astracad    31%
By:
JOCI Club
When: 21 Feb 14 00:06
RSA Chase

Many Clouds    100%
Don Cossack    85%
Ballycasey    84%
Morning Assembly    84%
Black Thunder    84%
Taquin Du Seuil    84%
Foxrock    80%
Sizing Gold    78%
Bright New Dawn    77%
Corrin Wood    77%
Wonderful Charm    77%
Holywell    77%
O´Faolains Boy    76%
Ardkilly Witness    73%
Green Flag    71%
Carlingford Lough    70%
Djakadam    65%
Le Bec    63%
Champagne Fever    62%
Uxizandre    61%
Double Ross    60%
Just A Par    60%
Shutthefrontdoor    60%
Sam Winner    59%
Smad Place    59%
Annacotty    55%
Samingarry    47%
Shrapnel    47%
Spring Heeled    47%
Le Reve    41%
Gevrey Chambertin    39%
Mullaghanoe River    38%
Si C´Etait Vrai    31%
Via Sundown    15%
Cause Of Causes    14%
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 21 Feb 14 07:16
Joci, how often does a horse hit 100%?
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 21 Feb 14 09:38
If I remember correctly last year champagne fever was 100% and freely available at 15-1.
By:
The Jacks are Back!
When: 21 Feb 14 10:12
Really great post - would be extremely grateful to get a look at your spreadsheet on the run up to Cheltenham, if possible. Best regards
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Feb 14 14:17
Good stuff Joci

Beneficent Love
Many Clouds Love
By:
JOCI Club
When: 22 Feb 14 00:29
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If I remember correctly last year champagne fever was 100% and freely available at 15-1.

Last year, the 100% horses were Champagne Fever (won), The New One (won) & Reve De Sivola (4th)
By:
JOCI Club
When: 22 Feb 14 00:30
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Really great post - would be extremely grateful to get a look at your spreadsheet on the run up to Cheltenham, if possible. Best regards


No probs, message me and I'll send you what I've done so far.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 22 Feb 14 14:06
Supreme Novices Hurdle

Wicklow Brave37     87%
Gilgamboa45     86%
Vautour30     85%
Faugheen73     85%
The Tullow Tank30     83%
Fennell Bay27     81%
Vieux Lion Rouge19     79%
Josses Hill59     78%
Valseur Lido80     77%
Western Boy59     77%
Lieutenant Colonel37     76%
Upazo59     74%
Sky Khan19F     73%
Pearl Castle20     72%
First Mohican33     71%
Mountain King24     71%
Wilde Blue Yonder24     71%
Lac Fontana45     70%
Le Vent D´Antan31     68%
Noble Endeavor20     67%
Stand To Reason52     64%
Vice Et Vertu39     64%
Mijhaar68     64%
Cheltenian31     63%
Dell´ Arca31     62%
Stellar Notion20     62%
Renneti74     62%
Broughton37     62%
Vaniteux33     61%
Un Ace20     60%
Roll It Out38     60%
Quickpick Vic30     55%
Irving81     55%
Sea Lord114     54%
Dubai Prince46     53%
Pleasant Company18     53%
Three Kingdoms74     52%
Sgt Reckless39     51%
Splash Of Ginge31     51%
Minella Foru100     51%
Garde La Victoire59     50%
Ivan Grozny30     47%
Arctic Fire74     47%
The Liquidator59     44%
Fascino Rustico24     43%
Adriana Des Mottes70     40%
Art Of Payroll30     40%
Double Irish19     40%
Merrion Row172     38%
Aurore D´Estruval24     35%
Germany Calling144     35%
Gassin Golf101     34%
The Brock Again65     26%
Fantasy King150     25%
Aazif23     25%
Cup Final117     25%
Volt Face82     24%
Prince Of Lombardy122     21%
Deep Trouble31     16%
Diamond Life459     7%

Preliminary ratings so far, which could change over next week or so. Interesting that the trends don't give Irving much of a chance.
By:
ACStafford
When: 22 Feb 14 15:00
Today's run would surely increase Irving's rating though?
By:
civej
When: 22 Feb 14 15:26
JOCI, why was Irving's rating so low?
By:
JOCI Club
When: 22 Feb 14 15:58
The trends Irving doesn't satisfy are:

1 Not won a bumper of had a flat rating 86+ (though hard to know what rating he actually ran to in Germany)

2 Not won a race of 14+ runners (he has won a 13 runner race though, so in reality' little difference)

3 Doesn't have a top 4 finish in a Grade 1 hurdle

4 Not Irish trained

5 Not likely to be priced 10/1 or bigger (some may chose to disregard this trend)

His rating did increase after today's run as it meant he had his final run within the preferred 56 days, which saw his rating inrease to 64%.

I'm not saying he can't win, especially after today....he just doesn't seem ideally suited based on the historic trends.
By:
civej
When: 22 Feb 14 23:10
Thanks, looking forward to your ratings for the other races.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 23 Feb 14 21:05
World Hurdle

Preliminary ratings in the World Hurdle are as follows:

Rule The World    66%
At Fishers Cross    63%
Big Buck´s    63%
Reve De Sivola    57%
Celestial Halo    54%
Annie Power    53%
Zaidpour    51%
Zarkandar    50%
Fingal Bay    50%
Medinas    46%
Mala Beach    45%
Thousand Stars    42%
Boston Bob    41%
More Of That    40%
Quevega    40%
Holywell    40%
Mickie    37%
Salubrious    37%
Trustan Times    37%
Cotton Mill    33%
Awaywiththegreys    29%
Meister Eckhart    28%
Saphir Du Rheu    23%
Monksland    15%

Rule The World slightly ahead in the rankings, but this includes the assumption that he fulfils the criteria of winning over 3 miles, only in a maiden point to point. If you chose to disregard this (and look to him to have won over 3 miles over hurdles), he would rank lower. Will revisit closer to the time, as the top 4 in the betting are favoured, and that is still liable to change over the next 2 weeks.
By:
noel5000
When: 26 Feb 14 17:15
just like to say thanks really enjoy this approach
By:
sintonian
When: 26 Feb 14 17:40
Mount Belbulben to be supplemented into WH.
By:
buddeliea
When: 26 Feb 14 18:59
Cheers for pointing that out Sint,just had some 25 nrnb.

Buy you a beer if he wins mate
By:
JOCI Club
When: 27 Feb 14 00:20
Have been looking at the Foxhunters tonight, and without having finalised the analysis yet, Harbour Court, Divine Intavention and On The Fringe seem to be amongst the best 'trend' horses.

Last year, the trends picked Salsify & Divine Intavention as top rated, and they finished 1st and 2nd (Divine Intavention @ 50/1). Lucky though due to leader falling at the last.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 28 Feb 14 10:47
Mares Hurdle

As Quevega has ruled with utter dominance, her stats will distort the trends, so stripping Quevega's impact out of the trends might find a horse to back as well as Quevega (if you feel so inclined).

Preliminary ratings:

Annie Power    95%
Glens Melody    88%
Highland Retreat    86%

Cailin Annamh    77%
Sirene D´Ainay    73%
Flementime    66%
Layla Joan    66%
Legacy Gold    65%
Mickie    64%
Quevega    61%
L´Unique    57%
Mischievous Milly    57%
Down Ace    56%
Epee Celeste    52%
Doyly Carte    51%
Cockney Sparrow    49%
Swing Bowler    48%
Pass The Time    44%
Jennies Jewel    43%
Hidden Identity    43%
Top Totti    43%
Cloudy Spirit    35%
Uddy    33%
Little King Robin    33%

Annie Power well clear (will she run - unlikely) followed by Glens Melody and Highland Retreat.
By:
MWDS
When: 28 Feb 14 11:19
Quevega has won 5 out of 6 runnings and most of those off the back of an identical preparation to the one she's had this year.  Surely she must come in at higher that 61%?

Nice work on all this anyway.
By:
Greg_Gory
When: 28 Feb 14 11:21
Brilliant Mate,can I nick your sheet GrinTongue Out
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