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BOOM!!! Gold Cup Wide Open, Thoughts???
BOOM!!! Gold Cup Wide Open, Thoughts???
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interesting piece in the weekender form tom segal heres the gist ......im begining to think llast seasons gold cup was a real brute . it rained hard on the day and quite a few horses in the race might have seen the dark side and never be the same again.already we have seen long run and cape tribulation run badly afterwards and on saturday bobs worth ran a shocker too . he looked really sluggish throughout and while the track wouldnt have suited,not that long ago he beat cue card over 2.4 miles at newbury. bobs worth showed very little at haydock and anyone who has backed him for a gold cup repeat performance should be afraid ,very afraid .
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Anyone know if The Giant Bolster is going the GC route or Ryanair?
Noticed he's got an entry in the December gold cup next month...tia |
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Buddeliea just wondering what your thoughts are now that Cue Card didnt appear to stay 3m quite so well in the King George and Bobs Worth bounced back to his usual self at Leopardstown? Are you still so sure Cue Card is to fast and Bobs Worth wont get near him in Gold Cup? Or are you a tad worried whether CC will even run in the Gold Cup? I would be worried myself. You were far to dismissive of Bobs Worth imo he's been there and done it in a Gold Cup. Being dismissive of reigning champions will often make you appear a mug. There's a reason hes a champion. And in reference to the Newbury form where Bobs Worth beat Cue Card. This race defeats ur speed arguement. Bobs Worth did keep tabs on Cue Card and did beat him over an inadequate trip.
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Well Im pretty sure the KG was a better race than the Lexus,and fully expect SC to beat Bob in the Gold Cup.
As for Cue Card imo he stayed the trip and just got beat by a better horse on the day in the soft ground conditions which favoured SC over CC. The Lexus was not run at anywhere near the pace of the KG and Bob was able to keep close enough for his stamina to tell at the end,but beating FL and RB by not much would not have me taking current prices for the Gold Cup. In the Gold Cup on normal festival ground I don't expect Bob to be able to keep near enough to be able to pick off CC and SC,especially as we saw in the KG, SC can lay up with a good pace and stay well. As for the race at Newbury,CC was giving Bob 7lb,and is imo a much improved horse now. If you think Bob is anywhere near as quick as CC,thats up to you mate,i certainly don't. Its only my opinion,and I may be wrong in not fancying Bob this year,but that's what ive decided and will stick to that. Oh, and yes im a tad worried CC may be rerouted cos of recent events re S Sacre,but only a tad, and I do expect him to be continually trained for a Gold Cup campaign, and expect him to run, especially after reading his jockeys comments. |
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BW isn't no slow ground plodder that with any hint of pace in the race is out with the washing, they went quick enough last year and he got to them, plenty of his races he's travelled perfectly well in and just powered away at the death, on the KG running, I'd have thought that tizzard would be more likely to try and hold on to CC rather than the opposite and he will be pestered all the way ....we don't yet know just how conti will get home and we certainly don't know if he can get home as well as BW.....AF is an outsider with a chance for me as I think he may appreciate the trip....anything else is out of it for me.
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Conti is a stayer mate,thats all they keep saying about him,and now hes proved he can run well up with a good pace.
Bob was outpaced during the race last year,i expect him to be outpaced more this year,with what I consider to be a better horse in front Cue Card than any that ran in the race last year.Yes,Tizzard will be looking at getting a breather in to him and Cheltenhams undulations should allow him to do that, but basically the horse has to bowl along-that's where hes happiest,and when he produces his best. Look,Bob is the reigning champ,so has to be respected,course he does.Im just trying to work the race out and how I see it being run,and imo the race will not be run like last year,think it will be pacier and not allow him to be near enough to get past them up the hill. As for AF,i agree hes an interesting outsider,and if hes on a going day could well be a major threat. Mate of mines been saying for some time that AF is a horse that needs to be caught right on the day...he may well be right,and hes a type of horse where the formlines don't always stack up. |
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Yep fair comments, I'm certainly not ruling conti out, of course not, just saying he still has the full GC trip to answer, admittedly it looks promising on that front, but I'd still prefer BW, contrary to the thread title, I don't think it's wide open...the front two which I'd back BW with a back up on AF just in case.
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That's where we do agree my friend,i don't think its wide open either.
I will have Cue Card instead of Bob. And hope im right with my thoughts!! |
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Clarky9
24 Nov 13 23:18 Joined: 06 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 1,308 | Blogger: Clarky9's blog Bobsworth a monster ew bet at 6s |
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Amazing how it has become a head scratcher to probably the most predictable race of the festival bar the mares!
Bye bye Dynaste, Sir Des Champs, Cue Card who would need a lift off the ambulance |
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Bally thinks he knows Cue Card wont stay!!
I would never have guessed,only read it about 68 times!!  |
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Just giving you a helping hand son
By the way I think Cue Card won't stay |
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That's 69!!
Talking of 69...that reminds me  |
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Honestly, I don't think he will stay. I really don't...
 Aye 69...where is she???  Oi sweetheart where art thou |
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"Sometimes I think you love that bloody horse racing more than you love me"
 "Sweetheart...sometimes I think I love Cue Card more than you"  |
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Bud your in for an expensive GC. If they go off at a real fast pace they'll be bottomed out before they even meet the hill and bobs will pick them off one by one... It is hard to see anything beating bobs if he is fit and well
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Don't worry about me,i will have Bob covered in case im wrong.
Don't think I will be though. If he can get close enough to the lead 2 out, i may start to get concerned. Sil Conti can lay up fairly close to the pace and stays really well,if Bob can get to him I will be a tad surprised,but not totally shocked,he is the champ. Don't think it will be a real fast pace,but I do think it may be a pace that gets Bob further back then his backers would like. We'll see. |