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It's more than fair Harry. He has everything going in his favour. I'm not sure what he will learn though. No pace in here again.
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agree, 5lb better off with OW from the last time too.
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Well, this race today should be right up TDS's street.
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Both real Jewson players for sure.
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He'd be very interesting in an RSA for me.
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Jumping needs to improve me thinks to have any chance of beating Oscar at Festival.
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He should have handled the ground better than OW. I've not given up. One more run and then hopefully the festival. I've had very few bets, and doubt i'll be having many more, so i'd like to get one or two there with a chance.
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will step up to 3 miles now surely !
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Don't jump well enough to win at the festival imo.
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Just watching that race again, he just cannot jump like that.
He could still concur with my original thoughts about him in the Jewson if he could jump better, but he don't look a natural to me. Not sure at all about 3m for him. |
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i would probably agree with you,if he couldnt beat ow yesterday in that ground he wont beat him in the jewson,i would go back over hurdles,only beat a length off mtoy giving weight away last year !
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I wouldn't make too many decisions based on yesterdays race. The 5th, 6th, 8th, 14th, 15th and 16th fences were omitted due to standing water. It didn't represent a proper 2m4f novice chase in too many ways with 6 fences left out and soft/heavy conditions. You can have all the views on the horses but don't take too many punting decisions based on the race yesterday. it was an "interesting but no relevant" race for me.
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fair points,but the way he was jumping suggests a fair beating if they had jumped every fence!!
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I think yesterdays race was a good boost for Wonderful Charm.
I personally don't think Oscar or TDS will win the Jewson, but for Wonderful Charm to only go down half a length, giving 8lbs to Oscar Whisky, and then for him to come out and then beat one of the leading candidates for the Jewson, has to be good. With Champagne Fever's participation 50/50 and Felix Yonger looking better over shorter, I think there is a lot of mileage in Wonderful Charm's price at the moment. After that race Nicholls said "It was a great run and he's improving rapidly. I'll put him away until March now. There's no point running him on winter ground as he needs it good and I'll give him a break until the spring festivals.", so hopefully he'll turn up at Cheltenham and Aintree |
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Some fair points and opinions, but i have to say CUFC mate, he ain't a RSA horse. He doesn't have the constitution at this stage to dourly stay. He's too tender also. I also think his demeanour is more Jewson, because he can be slightly apprehensive at this stage, and lacks the authority of a toughened 3 miler plus stayer. He ought to be Jewson bound, and i've not seen a great deal to make me too pessimistic.
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i think you will find graham that it would have ran in the albert bartlet last year but johnjo wanted ap on so it ran in the neptune,and anyway although i aint seen the horse in the flesh he looks like a 3 mile chaser to me ! just think it wont beat oscar whiskey on goodish ground if it couldnt beat it the other day !
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Ahhhhh nah, can't agree with any of that mate. I just hope he gets there. If he does i think he can give a good account of himself. Never a RSA horse for me, but that's your opinion, so fair play. Just because a horse runs in a big 3 mile hurdle, it doesn't mean they will stay in a top 3 mile chase.
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i know that but it was a year younger last year and the ab is a hard race,i dont think it is a natural jumper anyway,just dont see the point in it racing oscar whiskey again,i would even consider going back over hurdles with it if it doesnt go for the rsa !
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he looks a 3 miler to me aswell.....
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Has Wonderful Charm been tipped up today or something?
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Satisfactory.
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I think we got a bit of luck there. The track had a wee bit of juice put down, and JP allowed AP to ride. Have to be greatful. I think i read Jonjo mentioning the gold cup, so some of you may have had a point. I thought this was the ready made race for him all the same.
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No luck. Best horse won.
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He was that Sint. I meant luck with circumstances, because that horse needed to be ridden by the jockey who knew him. If JP hadn't allowed it, he may not have won. Plus he was hampered at one point. So a small rub of the green, but he was the best in the race.
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well done graeme,was there for 1st 2 days and thought ground wouldnt be soft enough,travelling home today so if i had seen the ground before the start i might have done him even though i thought he needed further,biggest antepost winner for me last year would have been him !
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yep, well done Graeme. Maybe you'll stop moaning for a change.
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Great shout.
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what graeme not moaning anymore !
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It's a shame graeme had to sweat for 2 hours before finally giving in and bumping it himself, whilst trying to make it look like he wasn't doing just that!
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well done Graeme, big fan of the horse but sadly didnt back him yesterday but he did me a big favour in the challow.
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I read the other day his blood isn't quite right. Probably a question mark whether he gets to the festival or not. Just have to see what happens.
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He's cose me a packet this season
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