Cheltenham Festival
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I quite like this fella. I thought he shaped with a bit of promise on chasing debut. I'm not going to get too carried away right now, as he runs tomorrow giving weight to none other than the 4/7 fav, Oscar Whisky. I'm keen to see how he does though.
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Indeed, a top chase prospect and should win a few races this season, especially when the mud is flying.
Not sure if I could have him on my mind for Cheltenham just now, backed him for The Neptune and you have to say he was disapointing in that. I came to the conclusion it was the better ground that found him out (he does have that high knee action), it will be interesting to see how he gets on today on similar ground with a view to the festival. |
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A high knee action indeed. Def needs to dip his toe in.
Be interesting to see how he jumps today. He looked very sticky i thought on his debut. Might have been down to he was pulling double against inferior opposition to be fair to him. A better pace might suit him. |
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gotta be pleased with that
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yep a effort indeed giving the 2nd £5
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Sounds like they are keen on the Arkle. McCoy wants to drop him back to 2m he said post-race, and trainer says he shows loads of speed at home. They would have run him in the 2m chase on Sunday but the owners have Dodging Bullets entered there. 14/1 with sly bet.
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guaranteed good to soft at the quickest on the Tuesday as well
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couldn't have him dropping back in trip,yes he outspeeded OW today if that's the word, but the point is, all things being equal he shouldn't have done, today shows that that OW is below par more than Taquin has the requisite pace to compete against the best at even this trip let alone dropping back, his knee action is quite dramatic, not quite coneygreeesque, but he's getting there.
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the going today was quicker than he'll face all season. And given how slow they went, literally no more than 20mph for the first 3 fences, I can't see a strongly run two miles being any problem for him tbh. Oscar Whiskey is non stayer over 20f+ and has always shown speed yet he was out-sprinted today when in receipt of 5lb.
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I thought it was quite telling how both Jonjo & AP were quick to play down the race and say they learnt nothing today. Well, for me, they learnt this horse can handle decent ground and has the speed in the finish of race. It was so slow today it was akin to running 2 miles not 2 miles 4 furlongs.
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plenty of horses that ran 20f+ in their hurdling days dropped back to 2 miles and won the Arkle, don't see any reason not to have a go
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Lot's of negatives for OW and Taquin just managed it, myes he gave him 5lbs but he's a fit horse to off-set that, and with all the negatives just pointed out against OW, does that then promote taquins performance in just getting up or negate it? his knee action indicates that he will spend too much time off the ground to win a speed contest for me.
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Slow pace against both of them.
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Fwiw, McCoy on RUK ''For the time being we'll treat him as an Arkle horse''.
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Tidal Bay won an Arkle so if this one is good enough I don't see lack of speed as an issue
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I've backed him at 20's & 16's, seems a fair risk at the price.
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Yeah Judo, mildly pleased. He ran well enough, but there was no gallop there. I'm not one to go over the top for obvious reasons. I'm a small stakes punter, plus anything can happen with these national hunt chasers. I do like watching ante post propositions run in these sort of races though. It gives extra emphasis to these sort of races. There are still many good horses to come out.
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The only positive out of the race for both Oscar and Taquin would be they jumped much better once they sprinted from 3 out.
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taquin gave mytentoryours half a race over hurdles over 2 miles n mtoy is quick, i really fancy taquin for the arkle and 16s is a very fair price, gooooood horse.
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Not sure how anyone can take that race too seriously for future punting to be honest.
As Henderson said - it was a total b0ll0cks of a race  Hopefully we will find out next time they run,in particular as re OW as it was his debut and he slipped into the 1st fence and hit it quiet hard.Being reigned back so much would not have helped them today either. Most unsatisfactory all in all,although we do know they can jump a fence at speed,those last 2 fences were impressive. |
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I was there today and I thought it was anything but a bollox race winner won well
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it was a 2m5f race turned into a 4 furlong sprint,think that's what he meant my friend.
And hes right in that regard. |
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ok budd
blame BG he didn't have to make it a 4f sprint. |
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if it was anything but a bollox race howdi what was it??
just a public school to my eyes |
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I hear what you say mate,but today was about education on the track for OW as far as his connections were concerned,thats why it was a watching race for OW fans-well I thought so anyway.
it was clear OW was going to be given a lead,and that all went at the 1st fence as the horse sposed to lead messed up and left OW in the lead,even though he messed up as well!! it was then farcical for a long way. Watch them next time,we will learn a lot more. |
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Interestingly Taquin Du Seuil has another entry for next week, which obviously he won't run in, but it over 2 miles. It was clearly a back-up plan incase something went wrong today e.g a first fence fall, but they clearly think 2 miles won't be a problem. How often do we here people say you need a stayer for the Arkle? Every year.
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Would not put anyone off backing TDS for the Arkle if they like him,jumps well enough to me and stays well.
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McCoy seems to think 2m will be fine as well.
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The prudent thing is to treat him as an arkle horse, they can always adjust as the season unfolds, can't see it myself though, just look at that near fore and the way he, well lolloped..... I suppose is the best word.... his way clear in the challow in that ground.
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Finian's Rainbow looked like winning the Challow Hurlde before stamina got the best of him and he finished 3rd.
We'll see, I can see why some people would not fancy him for the Arkle and tbh i've only backed him because I think the odds are big enough given available evidence and info. There is still a long way to go! Champagne Fever runs this weekend too and he's priced up like he is a Sprinter Sacre or Simonsig. |
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yeh,and CF not even a definite for the arkle-2m 4f this weekend.
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If Dodging Bullets proves to be a good chaser, Taquin will surely go Jewson won't he?
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well right now it seems DB would be the most likely Arkle one out of the two-given their races so far-but that could all change as the season progresses. I would imagine though that the owner would not want them both in the same race.
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Dodging Bullets just won nicely over 2 miles at Cheltenham which makes his form figures at the track 1191, but for me he is way below top class. Not in the same bracket as the owners Taquin Du Seuil anyway.
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Totally agree Sint but if DB keeps winning I can see him being the Akle horse and TDS being switched to the Jewson,
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Yeah possibility Uncle. Owners love having more than one runner especially on different days. That said, if they believe he has a good chance of winning it, they have to run!
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DB was very sticky early on today, he looks a ready made jewson horse, got better the further they went.
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Hopefully TDS goes for the 2m Grade 1 at Sandown and can really stake his Arkle claims.
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Chelt tomorrow over 2m5f
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very nice price this horse tomorrow...got his ground
don't trust oscar anymore, so am happy to accommodate the 11/8 on offer very reasonable |