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CVB pretty well sums up my view too. I like the horse but he hasn't been campaigned like one destined to lift one of the novice chase championship crowns. The Reynoldstown might tell us more but for someone who learnt from a master, Sherwood has largely underperformed in his training career and his stable jockey is no better than adequate.
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Ok Sint, I shall watch again my friend
Have just done that,and I have no doubt the best horse on the day won the race. BT was last off the bridle,and travelling better coming to the last. After the last BT started going away from MC,and last 100 yards MC came back at him to narrow the gap from about 4 lengths to 2 and a half. Thought overall BT jumped slightly better,and MC did hit the top of the 2nd last. After watching that, my feeling is BT might just be a better horse, but having said that, Its not cut and dried at all who would fare better in the RSA imo. Corrin wood I was most impressed with and to me he looks better than the pair of them. He could jump a lot into the ground in the RSA. Not Ballycasey though  |
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seagull likes him for the rsa !
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plenty of people seem to have issues with either the horse or sintonian. regarding the horse, all his chase form looks top notch so far. haydock was a funny race for me with previous posts having expressed/included them. i'm expecting a min 10 length victory today then bring on the rsa.
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graham rodway just tipped himm on racing post tv,flush those dockets down the toilet
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I like the horse but, for today, think Rebecca Curtis's horse has been a bit overlooked - stable out of form and horse scoped badly after it's last run, should surely perform much better today based on hurdles form and overall profile.
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FOYLESWAR 15 Feb 14 08:59 Joined: 09 Jan 11 | Topic/replies: 6,562 | Blogger: FOYLESWAR's blog
seagull likes him for the rsa ! No he doesn't, he said he didn't fancy him for RSA, he did fancy him to win today. From the morning line |
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sorry lads got that rse about face !
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Once Graham Rodway,James Pyman,Dave Or or ed quigley get involved,stay away.Some of the biggest dopes not on social welfare
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bit dissapointing that tbh, was he 100%? would still like him to go to the rsa, as he was closing at the finish.
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Very good jumper, I'd be interested in him in a handicap chase at the festival. He jumps so well he could keep his position in a big field, which is a huge asset.
Lets see what mark he gets. |
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cv was going to say it might not win today to get a decent mark,do you think the 3 miler on the 1st day !
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145 going into today
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wont go up for that will it !
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he'd be close to top weight in the jlt
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Top weight is usually around 155 in that race. Trainer said on morning line that today would tell them if they go h/c or RSA. I'd say he'll stay around his mark and go for the h/c on the first day. The old Billy Hill. Such a lovely jumper I'd have him on my shortlist alright.
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hope highland lodge doesnt win at ascot next,he is deffo on my list !
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highland lodge ran far too freely to win hopefully here !
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think he might go up a couple, him and gevrey were at it the whole way round and that killed the majority of the field but MC survived it and still stayed on to the line...you've got a solid 137 horse in baby shine, 40 lengths back.
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According to the racing correspondant for the Mail, Marcus Townend, Many Clouds definitely goes to the RSA - the following put up on Twitter post-race today: "Both Reynoldstown first and second O'faolains Boy and Many Clouds will go for Rsa Chase at the Cheltenham Festival" @captheath
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Got to laugh at the "experts" who thought that was a non staying performance. He missed work and obv had a blow then ran on again at the end, obv getting a second wind. Amazed the prices have drifted.
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MC laughed at indian castle to the tune of a 16 length hammering who in turn won well at cheltenham next time and is now 140...a mere 5 lbs below MC...reckon the handicapper will want a bit more daylight between them and today gives him the chance IMO
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Fairly clear he needed it when Sherwood didnt even include it in his bets on ML, when the horse is his fav.
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The comments about handicaps are just a case of paying it lip service. Earlier in the season Sherwood said ''I am not interested in his handicap mark''. He is a graded chases.
I must be ploughing a lone furrow here but I thought that was an excellent run today. I am all for riding horses positively, especially when they jump as well as Many Clouds does, but to get into a battle a long way from home on testing ground like that today was very taxing. Given the fact the trainer has said he still goes for the RSA I think that tells you he has left something to work on fitness wise and ofcourse he won't be conceding the weight there. The handicapper is going to put him up a few lbs for sure so handicaps wont' and never have been the plan. |
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You obviously dont read comments just above yours! Im with you all the way. I expected 12-1 tops after that performance. Loaded up again. GL us
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gl Bigadz.
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As I said earlier on this thread, I love the horse and have backed him.
I still have the nagging feeling that he's not quite good enough to win the race, and although there were plenty of positives today, there are also negatives if you want to be entirely objective. Promising though it was, I can't help but feel the price is about right, and have always had this nagging worry about his never having been to Cheltenham before. It's all well and good leaving something to work on, but a slog in heavy ground less than a month before the RSA with an undercooked horse is not my idea of the best prep. Obviously hope I'm wrong and I do like Sherwood so have to trust he knows his onions with this one. |
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sintonian 15 Feb 14 16:49 Joined: 21 Sep 04 | Topic/replies: 22,980 | Blogger: sintonian's blog
The comments about handicaps are just a case of paying it lip service. Earlier in the season Sherwood said ''I am not interested in his handicap mark''. You're getting a bit too defensive sint. Trainer said this morning on the Morning Line that today would decide if they go down h/c route or go for the RSA. So for me to suggest he may go down the h/c route now is hardly wide of the mark opinion. He got beat today in a race that looked low on quality already. I'd imagine his mark will remain unchanged and the handicap route is certainly a possibility. |
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Trainer also said he could get beat today as he had left plenty to work on, so I would think connections will be very pleased with that and the RSA is still likely to be their main target imo.
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Winner of todays race might prove to be a very good horse,so i think it was a decent performance by MC
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Big fan of this horse and think it jumps tremendously but starting to think it might be a bit tripless
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or just a handicapper which is just below top class !
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Curtis horses seem to be picking up a bit after an awful season so far. I suspect the form of the race is ordinary as far as the RSA is concerned. If MC had been ridden with more restraint, he might well have won today.
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gutted cos i backed it last time out when it came to win and just tired,dont think the irish will be losing much sleep regarding rsa though !
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ReaseHeath
15 Feb 14 11:01 Joined: 15 May 04 | Topic/replies: 10,435 | Blogger: ReaseHeath's blog I like the horse but, for today, think Rebecca Curtis's horse has been a bit overlooked - stable out of form and horse scoped badly after it's last run, should surely perform much better today based on hurdles form and overall profile. |
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didnt think her horses were back yet tbh,afc ran well at chelt but has she had that many winners since then,dont know tbh !
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MC is a very nice horse but not top class. Will fall someway short in the RSA
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When AFC ran at Cheltenham, her RTF was 20%, now it's 55%
Pipe similar, been running at about 30% for best part of the season, now up at 76% - really noticeable how many horses he had running today off really long breaks. I fear he may have peaked too early... Apologies I digress, need to watch the race to assess Many Clouds performance, the Curtis horse will have appreciated the ground and the 4lb weight advantage. |
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i should do a bit more homework really,there some strike rates !
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I cannot believe this horse is 30 on here for the rsa, Was expecting 14's, already backed sam winner but i just have back MC at its current price.
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