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ST NICHOLAS ABBEY
02 Sep 13 08:27
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DYNASTE ( King George - Gold Cup )  and SAME DIFFERANCE (Welsh and English Nationals)............for me
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Report unclepuncle September 2, 2013 8:58 AM BST
I always go for novices - Un Atout (Arkle hopefully) and Wrath Of Titans (Supreme or Neptune)
Report civej September 2, 2013 10:38 AM BST
Cue Card (King George) and Chatterbox (Arkle or Jewson).
Report aft September 2, 2013 4:31 PM BST
Cue Card (King George - Ryanair) and The New One (Champion Hurdle - Aintree Hurdle)
Report deepingfox September 3, 2013 9:02 PM BST
I specialise over the jumps on hurdles form, and 2M races in particular, where fluent economical jumpers are easy to spot and follow(chases have far to many of those larger tricky obstacles to clear).

No doubt for me that (Our Conor aside) the two novices that stood out for me last season, and I am primed to follow up on this season are both Willie Mullins horses, and are:-

FAUGHEEN 133 RPR on NHF race debut 22 length win. 
A 2M NHF debut good enough to be rated the same as finishing 2nd in the Cheltenham Festival Weatherbys Bumper (on debut under rules!!).
If he is a fluent hurdler then the 20/1 for the SUPREME NOVICE HURDLE looks interesting.

UN DE SCEAUX 152 RPR on 2nd hurdle start (155P T/F rating on 2nd hurdles start!)
when thrashing a useful 2M Novice Hurdle field by 13L an upwards, after Cheltenham,
Unbeaten in 2 French NHF races, and 2 Novice Hurdles.
Pulls early on, but nothing can get it off the bridle, and hurdles very well.
Already looks a Champion Hurdle type and a natural successor to Hurricane Fly for the stable
CHAMPION HURDLE-bound, and if it weren't for OUR CONOR (a horse I've loved since his November hurdles debut last season - after which I took 25/1 for the Triumph Hurdle) I would be taking more of the 25s still on offer with the bookies (after availing myself of 45's on Betfair).

Cannot wait for their seasonal debuts, Ruby on board, and hoping for sharp reductions in their Ante-Post prices afterwards.
Report Howdi September 3, 2013 9:18 PM BST
^^^ do we have a trumpet going spare Cry
Report Howdi September 3, 2013 9:19 PM BST
al ferof (nap)
Report deepingfox September 3, 2013 9:29 PM BST
Howdi, love to see him turn up in KG and Cheltenham Gold Cup to see what he could've achieved last year.  I reckon he could have given Boston Bob, Sir Des Champs etc plenty to think about.
Report deepingfox September 3, 2013 9:32 PM BST
Bobs Worth soz, getting my Bobs in a tangle.
Report Howdi September 3, 2013 9:33 PM BST
evening foxy....That Boston Bob out and out stayer for me could see him running well but lacks class for me, bit of tactical speed. I wouldn't give up on Sil. Conti yet was going to finish 2nd or 3rd at worst for me in last years Gold Cup.
Report deepingfox September 3, 2013 9:38 PM BST
Yeah, Boston Bob bailed out when looking a Festival winner, and then again NTO.  Defo stayer, needs to brush up jumping, but could be GC contender if doing so.  Never too sure on Sil Conti at Cheltenham in top, top class staying races.
Report Eeternaloptimist September 3, 2013 11:11 PM BST
I'd take the first three home in the Supreme as being very nice horses.
Report sageform September 4, 2013 7:40 AM BST
I was delighted to see Cue Card winning so easily after all the criticism of him since his bumper win. The Ryanair is his perfect race and I hope they concentrate on the Haldon GC and the Ryanair as his main targets. Our Conor was the most impressive young hurdler for a very long time, but Triumph winners have a very patchy record in subsequent years as we all know.
Report gutfeeling September 4, 2013 1:41 PM BST
O'faolains Boy

Outlander
Report Howdi September 4, 2013 5:47 PM BST
I think Our Connor may be the second coming and he may have to be. The New One doesn't half get up that hill.
Report yeast September 4, 2013 6:17 PM BST
Hardly original but looking forward to seeing how good Katenko really is.
Report Howdi September 4, 2013 6:44 PM BST
yes i'd half forgoton about him what was Mccain's 2 mile horse who ran up a sequence and missed the festival?
Report duffy September 4, 2013 11:49 PM BST
Oscatara trained by Donald Mccain is a dark one I'm interested in, be it hurdling or novice chasing, we know all about all the usual suspects but would love to see Flemenstar bounce back.
Report mushroom23 September 5, 2013 1:55 AM BST
Up and Go Howdi? Wins the RSA Wink
Report wondersobright September 5, 2013 3:37 PM BST
bit left field that duffy Grin

oscatara went in my tracker after bangor, had a right good bet on him that day nice uncomplicated ride as usual from the brooke

presumably had a problem since Confused
Report gravy September 5, 2013 4:04 PM BST
I really liked Clondaw Kaempfer last year of McCain's before that injury at Newbury, I think.
Any word. Looked a star in the making before breaking down.
Report wondersobright September 5, 2013 5:08 PM BST
yeah that's another 1 we haven't seen since before new year

I'm sure more news will come out when the stable previews get going next month/6 weeks or so
Report rogerthebutler September 7, 2013 6:56 PM BST
Harry Topper (Hennessey and then the Gold Cup!)

Boston Bob
Report Glossy September 8, 2013 4:10 PM BST
Melodic Rendezvous - very unlucky to miss Cheltenham after such a good season. Looks as if he's going straight to novice chasing this year and definitely one to keep an eye on for the Arkle if he does. Has the frame of a chaser already.

African Gold - another potential novice chaser who looks built for fences. Gritty, determined type with a turn of speed too. Likely RSA candidate.
Report Howdi September 9, 2013 7:00 PM BST
AGREE WITH AFRICAN GOLD LOOKS A RIGHT OLD BRUSIER NUMBER ONE QUALITY REQUIRED FOR RSA
Report sintonian September 11, 2013 5:30 PM BST
Not Telling You

&

Do Your Own Homework

These two horses are the ones i'm following this season. Cannot wait 'til they feature in many an aftertimed post.
Report cufcno1 September 11, 2013 5:46 PM BST
briar hill looks the ideal type for the ballymore,and golantilla travelled like a good horse in the bumper and looks supreme bound !
Report cufcno1 September 11, 2013 5:46 PM BST
neptu
Report sintonian September 13, 2013 9:20 AM BST
Joking aside, my two to follow would be:

Montbazon: Provided his minor injuries have not diminished his talent, I think he is well handicapped of 147 and he remains over hurdles. Could see him contest all the top handicaps and more. Trainer likes to have runners in the Greatwood on PP weekend.

Dildar: OR is 130, reading between the lines on PFN's quotes I get the impression he is in really good nick at the moment and could do a Brampour and rocket up the handicap who was similarly always regarded highly.
Report .Fidway. September 14, 2013 12:34 PM BST
Monsignor
Carobee



I hear they are working well and may be seeing a racetrack in November time.
Report duffy September 14, 2013 5:11 PM BST
Don't forget MonteladoGrin
Report SeaTheStars101 September 15, 2013 10:58 PM BST
Al ferof he is a relentless galloper watch the paddy power again that was some performance carrying that weight in heavy ground were the majority of horses failed to complete is hugely impressive. He has a serious engine.

The new one really impressive last year stamina to burn which you need in the champion. Turn of foot looks as good as anything.
Report iswearitsoath September 15, 2013 11:06 PM BST
SeaTheStars101, I agree with both of your selections - was gutted when Al Ferof was injured last year.

Invictus impressed me as a novice and would be interesting if returning this term (although I do tend to agree with the 'they never come back' brigade)

Trustan Times has had jumping problems over fences but is well handicapped in that sphere if they do decide to resume over the larger obstacles
Report cyclops September 19, 2013 10:00 AM BST
Two with similar profiles, one on each side of the Irish sea.
Don Cossack: "missed" last year in terms of progression from his bumper season, running against real top notch novices and far from disgraced. Lightly raced, hugely scopey, Gordon Elliott has always said he's a three mile chaser. Strange that three of his four runs were over two miles but there should be no doubt about his stamina.
Two Rockers: You can discard his Neptune run. Too short a trip, too slow a pace and on ground too fast. Look instead at his third win, racing against good yardsticks - the second then ran respectfully off 135 in the Pertemps - over 3 miles, he was still on the bridle at the last and eased away without turning a hair. Almost certainly needs three miles in the soft but, under those conditions, he should be very useful. Plenty of physical improvement can be expected from this massive sort.
Report simply perfect September 19, 2013 2:13 PM BST
Chatterbox travelled like a monster in the neptune, very excited about him and think My Tent Or Yours will have learned so much in supreme and fancy him for champion Hurdle.
Report festivalfanatic September 21, 2013 8:54 PM BST
Monsignor
Carobee



I hear they are working well and may be seeing a racetrack in November time.


Not funny Fidway. The mere mention of Carobee still brings tears to Noel Williams' eyes.
Report judorick September 22, 2013 2:02 AM BST
Cue Card - hugely underestimated for whatever reason (getting short headed by Bobs Worth giving him 7lbs, run relatively poorly in the Supreme NH & the King George all seem to stick in people's memories more than pissing up in two Grade 1 races at the Festival and getting closer to Sprinter Sacre than any other horse. As I explained on the Gold Cup thread, even the Official Handicapper has underestimated him. How he can be rated lower than Sir Des Champs is a mystery when you look at collateral form through FL and BW. Should be about 7lb higher than SDC i.e near 180 not 170)

Zarkandar - now they have stepped him up in trip he is going to prove very hard to beat at 2.5 miles+. He's won 8 of 11 starts over hurdles and the three times he has lost has been in two Champion Hurdles (on a track he does not like) and when falling early in the 2012 Aintree Hurdle. He could easily go unbeaten this season. I've followed him since he won on his hurdling debut in the grade 2 Adonis hurdle and he has won me bundles (100/30 in the Elite Hurdle for example)

Back both of these this winter/spring and you will make money for sure. Both multiple grade 1 winners set to win many more races as both are now at their peak age for their disciplines
Report bigben September 22, 2013 4:12 PM BST
When talking about Zarkandar not liking the track, I assume your talking about the old course? I think he's 2/2 on the new course.
Report judorick September 22, 2013 6:22 PM BST
exactly
Report .Fidway. September 23, 2013 5:40 PM BST
festivalfanatic whos noel williams
Report festivalfanatic September 24, 2013 11:38 AM BST
Was Alan King's assistant. Now has his own licence to train.
Report .Fidway. September 24, 2013 6:08 PM BST
Carobee was trained by David Nicholson wasn't he ?
Report .Fidway. September 24, 2013 6:08 PM BST
Carobee was trained by David Nicholson wasn't he ?
Report festivalfanatic September 25, 2013 9:30 AM BST
Yes but he was still in the yard at Jackdaws when Alan took over - couldn't get him sound enough to run. Noel was clearly saddened by his inability to stand the training when I was in his company a few years ago with the person who sold the horse to the Duke.
Report Marcus Cicero September 25, 2013 7:03 PM BST
At Fishers Cross is defo one to follow this season (as it was last season).
Report Makybe_Diva September 25, 2013 7:36 PM BST
Looking forward to following At Fishers Cross and Benefficient Happy
Report Glossy September 25, 2013 8:31 PM BST
Bit disappointed with the lack of creativity here. Put your head on the block guys and gals. Nominating Festival winners is hardly 'one to follow' material!
Report Sergei_Rebrofl September 25, 2013 9:16 PM BST
After some of the noises coming out of the yard last year I'll be keeping a close eye on Wonderful Charm. World Hurdle was way ahead of his ability last year, and it sounds like his breathing wasn't right anyway. I was taken with his run in the persian war and can see him mopping up some novice chases in the next few months.

Sticking with PFN, I really think that Rocky Creek will develop into a top class staying chaser. He had a bad time at aintree on good ground, but I reckon he's got bags of stamina, and I'll certainly be taking an interest in him in the hennessy.
Report JETCROWTS September 25, 2013 9:28 PM BST
Puffin Billy for me he was injured/ill on the lead up to the festival last year but looked mightily impressive beforehand.

Diamond King won his bumpers impressively and will be winning now that he goes over timber.
Report wondersobright September 26, 2013 10:14 AM BST
^looking forward to diamond king immensely, think he's got huge potential

also agree with what has been said about at fishers cross
Report wellchief September 26, 2013 7:10 PM BST
Anyone any thoughts on Arvika Legionnaire?

I see he's only in the betting for the Champion Chase, of which I think he'd have no chance.

I would, however, be interested in the Ryanair.  There were times last year when he looked awsome, and then times when he frustrated, but on his last race it looked like it all clicked in to place, and he looked a class apart.

I think the intermediate distances would be perfect for him, and could have some tasty battles with Flemenstar over the winter.
Report duffy September 26, 2013 8:55 PM BST
I was just starting to get excited about him during the arkle when he messed a couple up and dropped away, that wasn't his running at all and he made up for it next time, I'd be very interested in both him and hidden cyclone from Ireland if they ran in the paddy power.
Report Ibrahima Sonko September 27, 2013 8:50 PM BST
Cant name 2.

But for me the few to follow are:

At Fishers Cross - not had a race yet, reckon he will be a top class stayer.

Al Ferof - Group 1 winner over varying distances, i have him as a KG winner, hope Ruby is on board that day.

Cut The Cards - A JP mare who is still well ahead of the handicapper.

Well Sharp - After his jumping season i had him at least 30lbs ahead of the handicapper after they more than strangled him on his final hurdle outing, then he went to the flat and the rest is history. He will return to jumping no doubt.

Merehead - Hopefully they will make full use of his ratings, hurdling or chasing.
Report Far From Trouble October 6, 2013 6:30 PM BST
Oscar Rock
Boston Bob
Report Makybe_Diva October 6, 2013 8:06 PM BST
Hey, Sonko's had more than two. In that case I'll add Boston Bob to my two.
Report Glossy October 7, 2013 12:20 AM BST
I think I'll use my additional pick on Le Bec then. Very impressed with the run earlier on. Liked the horse last year but it always looked as though it wanted a fence. It showed that today, winning very nicely ahead of the useful Bears Affair. Could be a lively one for the Jewson.
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 October 8, 2013 8:06 PM BST
Broadway Buffalo
Caid du berlais
Report Giddy October 25, 2013 12:45 AM BST
Shutthefrontdoor. Makes his Chase debut at Aintree on Saturday.
Report stevo1 October 25, 2013 4:04 AM BST
Silviniaco Conti, Faugheen.
Report unclepuncle October 25, 2013 2:24 PM BST
Just noticed that my main horse to follow 'Wrath Of Titans' has recently been switched from Gordon Elliot to Dessie Hughes (it's owned by the Ryanair guy).

No idea what the reason is, but assuming the horse isn't injured I have to say I see this as a massive positive with regards to the horses chances at Cheltenham.Grin
Report Giddy October 26, 2013 10:38 PM BST
Ptit Zig is my other one
Report haltymags November 6, 2013 3:32 AM GMT
West wizard
My tent or yours
Report Mystic Wind November 6, 2013 11:45 AM GMT
Doctor Harper
My Tent Or Yours
Report unclepuncle November 8, 2013 1:56 PM GMT
Have to admit that despite winning Wrath Of Titans was a bit disappointing yesterday and hardly looked a Cheltenham Festival horse.

Hopefully some hurdles and a longer trip will see him in a better light.
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