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07 Mar 13 22:53
Date Joined: 13 Oct 04
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Bumper for me.
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Report DECALEC March 7, 2013 10:57 PM GMT
Report Monksfield79 March 7, 2013 11:01 PM GMT
easy the 2 four year old races, let em run but I'm not stupid enough to trust them. Always liked the triumph but that poxy fred winter is a mine field.
Report Navel-Gazer March 7, 2013 11:02 PM GMT
Agreed Howdi...even when I was a form-fiend I just couldn't seem to make head or tail of it!
They've all won crawls on heavy ground so a decent pace & faster surface makes the form redundant.

All is determined by the odds to me, so I back all the unbeaten longshots...I had a decent touch on Cue Card a few years back Happy

Until I started using Betfair, there were only about a handful of bumpers a season I'd even have a bet in!
Report Navel-Gazer March 7, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
Decalec - I'm presuming you're being sarcastic but I think Howdi makes a half-decent point.
Report DECALEC March 7, 2013 11:06 PM GMT
They've all won crawls on heavy ground so a decent pace & faster surface makes the form redundant.
Report DECALEC March 7, 2013 11:07 PM GMT
Report ACStafford March 8, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
Yeah. Bumper for me too. Never been a fan of bumpers and usually don't bother betting on the race.
Report bigblockhead March 8, 2013 12:34 AM GMT
not had the greatest luck in the bumper recently but do remember seeing Mark Pitman being interviewed in 99 on either the eve or day of the race he wouldn't have it that his 2 horses wouldn't be in the shake up so i backed them both blind ew Monsignor won at 50/1 and Canasta was third at 25/1 RESULT!
sometimes its not what they say its how they say it! a very good friend of mine read the tizzard stable tour in the december before cue card won his bumper and commited to backing him no matter what the stats said about 4yo etc etc he had a very healthy return on the tote at about 66/1 ish. admittedly its probably not a race to have your nap given the uncertainty but no harm having an interest IMO.
Report Navel-Gazer March 8, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
Racist Laugh
Report Tucho March 8, 2013 1:28 AM GMT
cheese wedge race, bumper, county hurdle

just pick something irish and hope for the best imo
Report Navel-Gazer March 8, 2013 1:41 AM GMT
Tucho - County Hurdle Shocked That's sacrilege squire! Plain
I've had some smashing winners of that including Silver Jaro at 50/1 & Thumbs Up swinging along under Dunwoody at 16/1 Grin

I also backed Rooster Booster (9/1) & Pedrobob (14/1) so it's one of the classic 'getting out stakes' as I see least it used to be before the gobshítes started c0cking around with the schedule.

AND last year I backed three horses in the race...2nd, 3rd & 4th forgetting about Alderwood, despite starting a thread about just how tenderly he was handled at Leopardstown the month before which I completely forgot about on the day! Angry
Report Tucho March 8, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
Alderwood! You see you could have had the winner with my 'something Irish and hope for the best' strategy. Silly

2mile handicap hurdles aren't that friendly to me at the best of times but at Cheltenham when every trainer thinks he's got 7lbs in hand it's just ridiculous trying to wade through it all. I usually just back a hype job or buzz horse for the sake of having a bet in the race. Paid off with Final Approach one year but that's it!

I'm not being sarcastic here, with your record in the race I'll be looking out for your thoughts nearer the time and maybe I'll learn something! Hope the winners continue for you. Cool
Report Navel-Gazer March 8, 2013 2:45 AM GMT
Tucho - I usually back two in a race at the Festival (one around 12/1 and another about 33/1) but depending on the prices and now with the convenience to trade on Betfair, nowadays I'm often on 5 or 6 in a big field of handicappers, so don't think I'm some genius that does it regularly...I'm just a chancer that hopes for the best at big odds!

Nevertheless, I had only 3 in the County Hurdle and it was particularly galling to have completely overlooked Alderwood (after making a note of his previous run) when my tribe filled the next three the prices they were, I should've been on the permed tricast! Cry

Rooster Booster was the finale a few years back at a Festival that absolutely stunk for me, and he got it all back in the 'getting out stakes'...something that's very rarely happened for me over the last 30+ years Happy

If you're after a longshot...have a small dabble on Hey Big Spender wherever he goes (two entries, 33/1 & 25/1) as he's massive value off a generous handicap mark.
Report JOCI Club March 8, 2013 6:38 AM GMT
Mares Hurdle - Quevega wins!
Report morpteh mackem March 8, 2013 6:56 AM GMT
fred winter, too difficult, just look for an aga khan bred one and back it.
Report theunrealbandit March 8, 2013 9:41 AM GMT
I increasingly feel like I wish I adhered to the answer being none of them!

Seems to me to be increasingly true that the best form is the previous year's festival form.  Cheltenham dominates the season so much now, that the weeks/months leading up to it consist of a succession of inconsequential and/or inconclusive trials that have little or nothing in common with the races at the festival: small fields, muddling pace, heavy going, etc., added to which you have trainers understandably going to extreme lengths to keep their horses under the radar or unexposed.  Is it just me that questions the value of the form book when so many once raced (usually in a low grade event) french-breds duly trots up in a handicap. Honestly, it sometimes feels like I might be better off studying the form for the Brocklesby!

Rant over...
Report red and white March 8, 2013 11:10 AM GMT
Every year I study all the entries for the Coral in detail. That way you get to know the form of every hurdler in Britain and Ireland. Crazy
Report Ballydoyle March 8, 2013 11:11 AM GMT
Champion Chase cos I've got evens Sprinter Sacre from way back
Report unclepuncle March 8, 2013 11:32 AM GMT
All of them - I just choose by the name, number and colour of the silks.
I especially like Number 8 wearing yellow.Laugh
Report rogerthebutler March 8, 2013 11:38 AM GMT
Can't be ar$ed to even watch the Cross Country race, let alone study the form for it.

Bladder management and food take priority during this fiasco.
Report Ming_the_Merciless March 8, 2013 11:59 AM GMT
I have a glance at all form tbh. Some is so well known I havent bothered like the Queen Mother. Bumper is ridiculous - but I like a previous big field winner so I have to look.
Report Ballydoyle March 8, 2013 12:11 PM GMT
Cross Country is a lot of is is Jewson
Report mrtopnotch March 8, 2013 12:13 PM GMT
Gold Cup because Bobs Worth will p*ss up
Neptune because "The Pont" will p*ss up
Report Brooksielad March 8, 2013 12:13 PM GMT
not sure why everyone mocks the cross country so much tbh...
Report IanD83 March 8, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
The mares race. Really doesn't interest me. Even if Quevega gets beat still won't bother me that I didn't pick it apart.

I quite like the Cross Country, love standing inside the course watching it from there. Not much of a betting race mind but like it nonetheless.
Report rogerthebutler March 8, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
Brooksielad Joined: 05 Jan 08
Replies: 1299 08 Mar 13 12:13   

not sure why everyone mocks the cross country so much tbh...

Because if I wanted to watch show jumping on speed I'd overdose on caffeine and take a membership at Hicksteed
Report Howdi March 8, 2013 12:22 PM GMT
Laugh The Butler on good form
Report rubhahunish March 8, 2013 12:30 PM GMT
Puncle - that is a vapid and mildly irresponsible post.

You must know it is number 11, allied with yellow colours, that brings home the bacon.

You, sir, are a guesser.
Report Rondetto March 8, 2013 12:54 PM GMT
I can't read so I just look at the pictures and the best picture I've seen is Far West starring Ruby Walsh.
Report unclepuncle March 8, 2013 12:54 PM GMT
08 Mar 13 12:30

You, sir, are a guesser.

Guilty as charged.Grin
Report rubhahunish March 8, 2013 1:08 PM GMT
And don't forget if it has alliterative name - double yer stake!
Report DECALEC March 8, 2013 1:17 PM GMT
Report rubhahunish March 8, 2013 1:36 PM GMT
Royal Reveille - christ, if that cops number 11, we'll struggle to find a wheelbarrow big enough
Report duffy March 8, 2013 1:37 PM GMT
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