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JOCI Club
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This will be a trends based evaluation of each race in the 2013 Cheltenham Festival. I have been spending too much time updating my spreadsheet with all the trends for each race, and evaluating each horse against those trends, while putting my own slant on the relative importance of those trends. Hopefully, the time and effort will pay off with a few decent winners.

Just like to mention at the outset that I'm indebted to Racecaller, who is the main source of the trends I use in this analysis.

I will kick off with the highlight of day one, the Champion Hurdle. All the various trends have been weighted according to their perceived 'importance', to give the most likely winner.

Key Trends

Won last time out (or placed in grade 1 or 2)
Posted an RPR of 160+ last time out
Run 2 to 5 times this season
2nd season hurdler that finished in first 4 in a grade 1 at 2012 Festival or
3rd or 4th season hurdler
Finished in first 4 on last 4 runs in 2M-2M 1F hurdles races with 10+ runners
Previously won a grade 1 hurdle
Finished in first 3 in 2012 Champion Hurdle or won another race at 2012 Festival
Irish-trained that finished in first 3 in Irish Champion and/or Istabraq Festival Hurdle
British-trained that finished in first 3 in Fighting Fifth, International and/or Christmas Hurdle
Ran in Kingwell, Contenders or Red Mills Trial Hurdle last time

Applying the key trends to the race gives a ranking as follows:

Hurricane Fly 81%
Rock On Ruby 80%
Countrywide Flame 72%
Overturn 68%
Binocular 62%
Thousand Stars 62%
Cinders And Ashes 58%
Oscar Whisky 55%
Peddlers Cross 52%
Zaidpour 52%
Zarkandar 52%
Grandouet 40%
Raya Star 39%
Rebel Fitz 36%
Balder Succes 36%
Cotton Mill 30%
Cause Of Causes 29%
Khyber Kim 27%
Grumeti 26%
Steps To Freedom 23%
Ransom Note 22%
Flying Cross 7%

There are likely to be a few non-runners out of the above list e.g. Grumeti, Oscar Whisky (World Hurdle) & Overturn (Arkle), but there will still be a high class field going into battle.

Hurricane Fly narrowly heads the list on trends and he is a very consistent horse who invariably seems to run to a RPR of around 170. Crucially, this is higher than many in the field have ever achieved, and therefore either he has to underperform (as he arguably did last year) or others have to find improvement (and some a significant amount of improvement).

Close 2nd on trends is the defending champion Rock On Ruby, who has perhaps not been given the credit he deserves for last year's win. Warmed up for this with victory at Doncster beating Countrywide Flame, having finished a decent 3rd behind a race fit Zarkandar and Grandouet in the International Hurdle. Could be one that reserves his best for the BIG day. Doesn't possess a great turn of foot, but will wind it up, and could prove hard to pass if given a lead.

Binocular is one that has the potential to run to a very high rating, but I'm worried about his consistency recently. Readily brushed aside by Hurricane Fly last time out, albeit under a tender ride from McCoy, he's subject of postive reports from Seven Barrows, and it wouldn't be  a great surprise to see him thereabouts at the business end.

Form figures of 111 this season for Zarkandar has to be respected but the fact remains is that he never really threatens to run to the kind of mark achieved by the likes of Hurricane Fly. However, he is a battler, stays well, has good course form, and will be staying on probably after being outpaced between the final two obstacles.

Grandouet is a horse I like very much, and I would have been very keen on him had he come out after the International Hurdle and put in an impressive performance. A supremely good traveller in his races, I'm sure he has the ability to go very close with the right preparation. However, the lack of race fitness / recent run is a concern, and makes me think he might just be found wanting in the finish.

There aren't many others that interest me. Cinders and Ashes doesn't seem to have progressed. Countrywide Flame looks exposed enough. The admirably consistent Oscar Whisky seems to fall between two stools, one being two miles and the other 3 miles, and will probably be re-routed.

Nothing else should be capable of troubling the judge.

On balance (and despite being burned last year), I fancy Hurricane Fly to reclaim his crown, and reaffirm his status as Champion Hurdler.

Selection: Hurricane Fly
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Report JOCI Club February 25, 2013 8:53 PM GMT
tomdeane 25 Feb 13 19:19 
I don't intend this to be a snipe in any way but surely your trends analysis makes Rock On Ruby the bet, seeing as there is only 1% between him and the Fly and he is almost three times the price?


tomdeane - I take your point, and in reality my trends analysis is being used to whittle down the field to a small number of candidates who (according to the trends) are most likely winners. At Cheltenham, I won't be blindly backing the top rated every time, but for simplicity sake, the top rated will be the selection for this thread. Hopefully, others may find the ranking helpful in formulating a shortlist on which to concentrate their form study / analysis. If I have other bets, I will try and make note of them on each race thread. But in this case, I really believe that if HF runs to his best form, then that will be good enough to take care of them.
Report tomdeane February 25, 2013 8:58 PM GMT
Cheers JOCI... Hope these churn out some nice winners for you
Report judorick February 25, 2013 9:12 PM GMT
Hi JOCI mate, it will be interesting to compare our analysis and selections, as per last year, as I am using much the same data as you but am interpreting it in a different way. I have completed the Supreme, Champion Hurdle and Gold Cup so far and am working on the RSA. I will post a similar thread once I have got a bit more done.

All the best with yours Happy
Report JOCI Club February 25, 2013 10:31 PM GMT
Cheers, good to get a few different opinions to mull over.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 25, 2013 10:55 PM GMT
Deplasterer 25 Feb 13 12:52
Paul Jones's book on stats & trends for all the races for the past 10years or so is a must have for everyone & reasonably priced too.
One stat & trend that sticks out at present is that Bobsworth has all the stats to overcome in order to win the gold cup. step forward Sir Des Champs
Report jasey February 25, 2013 11:01 PM GMT
Comes in Ebook form as well
Report judorick February 25, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
I'm using the same book plus other stuff and I'm pretty sure I will draw different conclusions to JOCI.
Report geordie1956 February 26, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
Hurricane Fly to me is the biggest lay - only 1 horse has ever regained the crown and it is too old at 9 which is another strong stat - I strongly fancy Rock On Ruby but HC as a lay bet is a must - good luck
Report jasey February 26, 2013 9:10 PM GMT
Post it  on the lay thread
Report alleged22 February 26, 2013 9:24 PM GMT
i like the % analysis with every horse used by OP because there are things id like to factor in and out for my own benefit. for instance in this case a prep run so grandouet and C&A would score lower for example
Report JOCI Club February 26, 2013 9:41 PM GMT
I had another look at the Champion Hurdle, and when reviewing my previous assessment discovered I had failed to give credit to those horses that had run in the International Hurdle, namely Rock On Ruby, Zarkandar and Grandouet. When factoring this into the analysis, it just gives Rock On Ruby the edge over Hurricane Fly. The pair are a dcent margin ahead of the rest of the field.

Rock On Ruby 80%
Hurricane Fly 79%
Countrywide Flame 70%
Overturn 66%
Binocular 60%
Thousand Stars 60%
Cinders And Ashes 57%
Oscar Whisky 54%
Zarkandar 53%
Peddlers Cross 51%
Zaidpour 51%
Grandouet 42%
Raya Star 38%
Rebel Fitz 36%
Balder Succes 35%
Cotton Mill 29%
Cause Of Causes 29%
Khyber Kim 26%
Grumeti 26%
Steps To Freedom 22%
Ransom Note 22%
Flying Cross 7%

Hurricane Fly still the selection, but acknowledge it could be a tough ask in that he doesn't have the ideal age profile. I'm going on the fact that I still believe he's the best horse in the race, consistently runs the high ratings, definitely had an off day last season (and arguably didn't get the best of rides that day), and could well be able to bounce back and reclaim his crown.
Report tomdeane February 26, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
Ok... now I'm going to have a (good-natured) snipe...

You've recalculated the figures after realising you missed something from the original. Rock On Ruby is now the highest-rated on your scale, is three times the price of Hurricane Fly, but you've sided with the latter because you think he can outrun last year's performance.

Now many will know I am not a trends man really but to me, it is even more silly to go to all this work, come up with a very logical-sounding way of ranking horses, and then produce the figures, only to go with your gut instinct at the end of it all. I totally understand that the point of these analyses is to narrow down the list of potential winners, and as you say, Rock On Ruby and Hurricane Fly are a good way clear on your scale so one of these has to be the bet. I just cannot understand your logic in choosing the jolly here!
Report JOCI Club February 26, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
Understand, and I'd try to explain earlier that I'm not blindly following the trends in reality. If people wish to follow the top rated selections here, then good luck to them, and I certainly wouldn't put anyone off. However, the top rated horse won't win every race at Cheltenham, and sometimes I've been better served by trusting my eye. A classic example is when I selected Sky's The Limit to win the Coral Cup several years ago. Top weights just never won the Coral Cup, but based on what I'd seen at the after racing Leopardstown gallops, I was convinced he had an excellent chance. Won like a good 'un. Key trend blasted out of sight.

Another reason, not been overly impressed with ROR this season. Beaten in International, and would likely have been beaten by the ill fated Darlan last time out. Sometimes you just don't warm to certain horses, and can't find your way to back them, despite what the trends / stats say.
Report alleged22 February 26, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
and can't find your way to back them, despite what the trends / stats say.

hit the nail on the head joci
Report judorick February 26, 2013 10:15 PM GMT
JOCI mate, horses beaten in the International have a very good record in the Champion. Better than winners of the International in fact and I've backed him (Zarkandar) Sad
Report JOCI Club February 26, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
Yep, I just hadn't included the stat re the International in my spreadsheet, and when added it in, increased RORs position relative to HF.

Zarkandar misses out on a number of trends for me.
Report tomdeane February 26, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
Fair enough and good luck to you.

Just think Rock On Ruby has to be the bet based on a value call on your analysis. I do agree with you in the sense that I haven't warmed to him this season, but the trends do mark him out as a big player and the price differential must be worth taking the risk I'd have thought...

Also, not sure what stage you're at with your analyses, but I'm guessing there won't be many cases where you have two horses so far ahead of the rest (relatively speaking), so again, just seems like you're putting in so much hard work to ultimately go with your gut from a shortlist of a few anyway.

Best of luck for a profitable week!
Report JOCI Club February 26, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
I haven't had a bet in the race yet, and might even have wager on both closer to the time, if I get a pang of guilt about not backing a top rated one. Grin
Report tomdeane February 26, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
I just know I'd hate to do all this work and then miss a top-rated 6-1 winner having backed the 13-8 fav!
Report rubhahunish February 26, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
It is late, but I sense convergance! Hands up if you don't expect to win a penny this week, likewise if your biggest winner will happily be a distant third...
I 'll get me
Report judorick February 26, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
if I don't win a wheelbarrow full I won't be pleased Angry
Report JOCI Club February 26, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
If I can cover the cost of my tickets (not cheap up in the grandstand seats), accommodation (very reasonable in Bishops Cleeve) and food / booze (a decent amount), then it's mission accomplished for me.
Report duffy February 27, 2013 12:06 AM GMT
Joci
Good luck with your workings , I like the fact that although you are incorporating trends into your thinking, you aren't letting them rule you and are ultimately letting your visual impression of what you've seen through the season have a say in your conclusion, I accept that it must be a hard thing to marry the two up, I look forward to your GC offering, especially if you fancy BW because that's going to be a hard one to work the trends around, for the record I think he's the real deal, trends or no trends, he hasn't raced for a long time, but the trends in this respect are one dimensional, black and white, there's no consideration that in this case, the negative trend is actually , for him, a positive trend as he's so good fresh, that's my theory anyway on why they can be on occasions less than helpful.
Report JOCI Club February 28, 2013 11:54 PM GMT
Supreme Novices Hurdle

Key Trends

34 of 38 winners were aged 5 or 6
9 of 10 winners ran in the past 55 days (12/13 run last 52 days)
8 of 10 winners (14/16) won last time out (2 exceptions placed)
8 of 10 winners (last 5) posted an RPR of 137+ last time out
10 of 10 (11/12) winners had run 2 to 4 times over hurdles since August
10 of 10 winners won at least half their hurdle starts
9 of 10 winners had not finished worst that 3rd in completed hurdles races that season (exception was 4th in the grade 1 Christmas Hurdle)
6 of 10 winners had finished in the first 4 in a grade 1 hurdle
8 of 10 winners had won a bumper (other 2 were flat bred rated 86+ on the level)
2 of 10 winners had won at Cheltenham (6 others were having first course start & other two finished 5th & 2nd in previous Champion Bumper)
11 of the last 12 winners had a pre-race RPR of at least 132
6 of the last 8 winners going off 10/1 or bigger.


Applying these trends to the field (weigted), gives the following ranking:


Champagne Fever    100%
Annie Power    94%
Melodic Rendezvous    91%
My Tent Or Yours    86%
Un Atout    86%

Puffin Billy    84%
The New One    84%
Mozoltov    84%
Jezki    83%
Don Cossack    80%
Rule The World    76%
Chatterbox    75%
Pique Sous    75%
Rock Critic    74%
Waaheb    72%
Whispering Gallery    66%
River Maigue    65%
Bright New Dawn    62%
Minsk    62%
Dodging Bullets    61%
Minella Definitely    57%
Swnymor    56%
Ally Cascade    56%
Moscow Mannon    56%
Ifandbutwhynot    56%
Fatcatinthehat    55%
Court Minstrel    53%
I Shot The Sheriff    47%
Lordofthehouse    47%
Fair Trade    46%
New Year´s Eve    46%
Royal Guardsman    46%
Zuider Zee    45%
Tsar Des Bieffes    37%
Cause Of Causes    37%
King Of Dudes    37%
Sail By The Sea    37%
Tanerko Emery    36%
Cheltenian    36%
Black Spirit    35%
Morning Royalty    35%
Ransom Note    35%
Valdez    35%
Warden Hill    35%
Flaxen Flare    28%
Royal St Trop    28%
Flying Cross    26%
Stand To Reason    26%
Fire King    17%
Looking On    17%
Ostentation    17%
Sizing Solution    17%


Shortlist

Champagne Fever    100%
Annie Power    94%
Melodic Rendezvous    91%
My Tent Or Yours    86%
Un Atout    86%



Of the top 5 above, Champagne Fever ticks all the boxes. Whilst having been beaten a couple of times this season, he showed improved form last time out to win, has proven that he travels and has won at the festival before, and there are no doubts that he has the staying power to be finishing strongly. Might even improve for better going. I like his chances and have backed him at 23s. Slight doubt about whether he will actually run over one of the longer trips though. So he may not be my only bet.

My Tent Or Yours has strong claims after winning the old Tote Gold Trophy rather comfortably. I like that race as a pointer to the Festival, as it's often a large field, strongly run event, and the form often stands up well (not unlike some of the big Irish handicaps such as the Pearse Hurdle / MCR Hurdle or whatever it might be called nowadays.

Annie Power has done nothing wrong, and can almost be guaranteed to run a big race and would be getting a healthy weight allowance from the others, and would definitely be respected. Like MTOY, just unproven at the highest level (grade 1) but open to improvement. As I type 150s on here, so most likely a non-runner.

Melodic Rendezvous has run some good races, keeps pulling it out, and has finished strongly up the stiff Sandown hill which augurs well for Cheltenham. The only negative I have is age (7).

Un Atout falls into the 'could be anything' bracket. Two good wins in Ireland, highly regarded, and plenty of potential. Only marked deown slightly by lack of grade 1 form. Could well be my second bet in the race, cloiser to the time.

Selection: Champagne Fever @ 23
Report harry callaghan March 1, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
good write up joci...

just a quick question could you interpret your trend slightly differently in regards dodging bullets

for example he was beaten by grumeti first time last year then 4th in the triumph (lane 8)and his other run he stumbled and nearly fell...

if we discount that baring mind he was just a mere 4 year old then... and just took this year literally what rating would you give many thanks just interested to know
Report harry callaghan March 1, 2013 12:13 AM GMT
this season even thanks
Report JOCI Club March 1, 2013 12:24 AM GMT
If only rating Dodging Bullets on his 3 races this season (ignorong last season's form) would increase his score from 61% to 81%. He would still fall foul of not having had a recent enough prep race, and also the fact that he failed to win last time out.
Report harry callaghan March 1, 2013 12:33 AM GMT
ok thanks joci appreciate it... like to look at things from a slightly different perspective...he may fall short but he was running in open company last time however and is trained by the top trainer and ridden by the top jockey...

arcalis ran in the christmas hurdle and placed but did prep i suppose but wasn't trained by nicholls... anyway really good read and have had a little on champagne myself as over priced for this he should set it up nicely for the free going bullet who needs pace to run at and can swoop late and fast in the last 100 yards to coup the money
Report JOCI Club March 1, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
Arkle

Key Trends

20 of 22 winners aged less than 8
8 of 10 winners posted their best RPR over fences on their last completed start
9 of 10 winners posted an RPR of 153+ in last 2 starts
9 of 10 winners had finished in the first 2 on all completed chase runs
9 of 10 winners had run in 3 to 5 chases
7 of 10 winners had won a grade 1 or 2 chase (2 exceptions had yet to run in a graded chase and other had finished runner-up 3 times in grade 1 chases)
9 of 10 winners had finished in first 3 a grade 1 or 2 hurdle
9 of 10 winners (12/13) were officially rated 140+ over hurdles
6 of 10 winners had won at Cheltenham (3 exceptions had run here once, finishing 2nd in Triumph, 3rd Supreme & 4th in Neptune. Other was having first course start)
9 of 10 winners had final prep race within 52 days of the Festival
10 of 10 winners had run in 4 to 13 hurdles races (7 contested a novice hurdle the previous season)
10 of 10 winners have come from the first 5 in the betting

Based on the above trends (weighted), here is the ranking of the latest field:

Captain Conan 87%
Simonsig 85%
Benefficient 74%
Overturn 73%
Arvika Ligeonniere 68%
Twinlight 67%
Oscars Well 62%
Tap Night 61%
Terminal 60%
Module 52%
Majala 52%
Aupcharlie 46%
Rupert Lamb 46%
Marito 45%
Argocat 44%
His Excellency 43%
Fago 31%
Baily Green 30%
Viva Colonia 30%
Beeverstown 23%
Toostrong 14%

Captain Conan hits most of the trends, but there is a very good chance he will be missing this race, to perhaps run in the Jewson. By default, this leaves Simonsig as the highest rated of the likely runners, and he is the confident selection.

Will be a very interesting race, with Overturn probably setting off in front with his customary trailblazing tactics, and Simonsig on a stalking mission. The big question is whether he will have enough gas, and fight to take it up from Overturn at the business end. My money says yes. The reason for Simonsig falling behind Captain Conan in the trends was his relative inexperience over fences. More than 2 outings is ideal. Looking forward to him putting in a great performance, and rivalling Sprinter Sacre for top honours next season.

Selection: Simonsig
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 1, 2013 9:12 PM GMT
Good stuff Joci

Rock oN Ruby Love
Report JOCI Club March 1, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
Glenfarclas Chase (Cross Country)

The race that tends to ploarize opinion. Some love it, and thinks it brings somethig new to the Festival. Others dislike it and think it has no place at the mecca of jumps racing. Wherever your views lie, here's what the trends throw out in terms of a ranking:

In past 6 years 5 of the 6 winners were aged 8 to 10 and 8 of the last 11 horses aged 11+ to make the frame had won or placed in the race before.
5 of 8 winners won on their last run over fences
6 of 8 winners had run in past 40 days (2 exceptions had last run in cross country race at Cheltenham December meeting)
7 of 8 winners had run 2 to 5 times that season
8 of 8 winners had run at least 11 times over fences
7 of 8 winners had run in no more than 11 handicap chases
7 of 8 winners had won over 3M+ (exception had won over 2M 6F & been placed in 3 of 4 runs over CD)
5 of 8 winners had won or placed over this CD (1 exception was having first start and other 2 failed to complete on only run on the Cross Country course)
5 of 8 winners had run over hurdles that season (2 of 3 exceptions had won a point to point)
Higher rated horses have fared best recently, with the 10 of 11 places being filled by horses rated 135+ in past 3 renewals (including all 3 winners).                                                                                         6 6 of 8 winners had run in the Glenfarclas Handicap Chase in December, finishing 13F17RO
Irish trainers (7-15-60) have won 7 of 8 runnings & filled 77% of the places from approximately 47.2% of the total runners, which compares very well to British trainers (1-6-66).
7 of 8 winners were priced 13/2 or below and came from the first 3 in the betting

And my ranking based on those trends:

Arabella Boy 81%
Chicago Grey 75%
Sizing Australia 75%
Outlaw Pete 74%
Bostons Angel 74%
Shakervilz 70%
Uncle Junior 67%
Balthazar King 67%
Freneys Well 64%
Hoopy 64%
Doctor Pat 64%
A New Story 60%
Long Strand 56%
De Danu    56%
Reste Demohaison 54%
Jacks Island 54%
Saddlers Storm 52%
Northern Alliance 51%
Paco Jack 49%
Big Shu 48%
Leac An Scail 48%
Fredo 48%
Pentiffic 47%
Triggerman 44%
Nedzer´s Return 43%
Backstage 43%
Gullible Gordon 43%
Clear Hills 43%
Another Jewel 42%
Hey Big Spender 41%
Wedger Pardy 41%
Double Dizzy 39%
Shalimar Fromentro 38%
Victrix Gale 36%
Drawn N Drank 36%
Midnight Haze 34%
Pearse 33%
Cool Operator 33%
Quick Fire 32%
Passato 28%
Any Currency 28%
Poker De Sivola 28%
Dashing George 22%
Sacree Tiepy 21%
Sanjaka De Thaix 21%
                                                                                           


Shortlist

Arabella Boy 81%
Chicago Grey 75%
Sizing Australia 75%
Outlaw Pete 74%
Bostons Angel 74%

Arabella Boy stands clear at the top, with the four remaining horses very tightly bunched. Chicago Grey is the class horse, and if taking to these fences, could turn this into a procession if on a going day, as stamina certainly won't be an issue. We have a former winner in Sizing Australia (let me down last year) and Outlaw Pete is a C&D winner. The former classy Bostons Angel makes up the quintet.

Could end up having a couple of bets here, but purely on trends...

Selection: Arabella Boy
Report Makybe_Diva March 2, 2013 11:50 AM GMT
Thanks, JOCI.

I love the Cross Country Chase Happy
Report JOCI Club March 2, 2013 12:18 PM GMT
Pulteney Novices Chase

A tough one to weigh up with any confidence at the moment, with so many runners still engaged, but here are the main trends I evaluated each horse against:

7 year olds have won 6 of the 8 runnings from approximately 41.7% of the total runners.
The last 7 winners carried 10-11 or more though with the race now limited to horses rated 140 or less, it’s highly likely all runners will have at least 10-11. In past 2 years all 8 places were filled by horses carrying 11-4 or more.
Horses officially rated 132 or higher won the last 7 renewals and filled 23 of 32 places, though conditions of this race changed in 2011 as now only horses rated 140 or less are eligible to run in this, so previous official rating figures.
8 of 8 winners finished in the first 2 last time out
6 of 8 winners posted a career high RPR of 136+ last time out
7 of 8 winners finished in first 3 on all completed starts over fences that season (exception finished in first three in 3 of 4 chase starts)
6 of 8 winners were having their first run in a handicap chase
8 of 8 winners had run 3 to 7 times over fences that season
5 of 8 winners had won just 1 chase (exceptions had won 0 or 2 chases)
8 of 8 winners had their last run in past 60 days
7 of 8 winners had won over 2M 4F+ (exception not run over further than 2M 2F)
4 of 8 winners ran in a hurdle race at the previous year's Festival
6 of 8 winners were officially rated 125+ over hurdles
6 of 8 winners had run no more than 7 times over hurdles
4 of 8 winners had been placed in a graded/listed hurdle
7 of 8 winners came from the first 5 in the betting


And based purely on those (weighted) trends, here is my ranking of the runners:

The Druids Nephew    74%
Forgotten Gold    69%
Vulcanite    68%
Carlito Brigante    66%
Attaglance    66%
Star Neuville    64%
Colour Squadron    63%
Poole Master    62%
Saphir River    61%
Act Of Kalanisi    60%
Ohio Gold    60%
Tetlami    59%
Fourjacks    59%
Nuts N Bolts    59%
Eastlake    59%
Safran De Cotte    58%
Alderwood    57%
Savello    57%
Yurok    57%
Russian War    57%
Opening Batsman    56%
Buckers Bridge    56%
The Tracey Shuffle    56%
Tour D´Argent    55%
Grove Pride    55%
Ballypatrick    55%
Rouge Et Blanc    54%
Howard´s Legacy    53%
Hazy Tom    53%
Chartreux    53%
White Star Line    53%
Restless Harry    52%
Swift Arrow    52%
Dare Me    52%
Toner D´Oudairies    51%
Johns Spirit    50%
The Cockney Mackem    50%
Battle Group    50%
Nataani    49%
Prima Vista    49%
Shangani    47%
Saved By John    47%
Tikawa Moirette    47%
Beeverstown    47%
Top Smart    47%
What A Warrior    46%
Kealigolane    46%
Kapga De Cerisy    45%
Bobowen    45%
Urgence D´Estruval    45%
Escort´men    45%
Please Talk    45%
Tenor Nivernais    44%
Ackertac    44%
Arthur´s Pass    44%
Arbeo    43%
Real Milan    41%
Farrells Fancy    41%
Mountainous    41%
Sweet My Lord    40%
Tony Star    40%
Kingsmere    40%
Garynella    40%
Clouded Thoughts    40%
Rajdhani Express    38%
Rebel Rebellion    38%
Parsnip Pete    38%
Kruzhlinin    37%
Canaly    37%
Sustainability    36%
Bennys Mist    36%
Renard D´Irlande    35%
Saoirse Dun    35%
Shuil Royale    35%
Gores Island    35%
Sew On Target    34%
No Planning    33%
Nobunaga    29%
Megastar    28%
Klepht    27%
Miradane    26%
Merrion Square    26%
Ice ´N´ Easy    26%
On The Bridge    22%

The Druids Nephew is nicely clear on the trends, with plenty others bunching up behind him. I will be almost certain to have another bet closer to the time, with any one of the other top 5 or 6 horses coming under consideration.

Selection: The Druids Nephew - current 13.5 here.
Report Ming_the_Merciless March 2, 2013 12:18 PM GMT
it's grown on me too Happy- let's face it none of us had a clue what was going on when it first ran but the form holds together quite well.
Report Ming_the_Merciless March 2, 2013 12:22 PM GMT
JOCI's going deep now - the Pulteney already! good work. Happy
Report JOCI Club March 2, 2013 12:24 PM GMT
Was a bit of a marathon effort ploughing through all those runners.
Report JOCI Club March 3, 2013 10:44 AM GMT
JLT Specialty Chase

Trends:

10 of 10 winners were aged 7 to 10 and they have also filled all 38 places
Irish bred horses have won 8 of last 10 from approximately 51.5% of total runners.
7 of 10 winners carried 10-5 to 10-13 and so are heavily favoured.
All 10 winners were officially rated 129 to 143, 4 of last 5 winners were rated 142 or 143.
8 of 10 winners finished in first 3 last time out (6 won)
8 of 10 winners had posted an RPR of 134+ on last chase start
8 of 10 winners were 1st or 2nd season chasers (both exceptions were 3rd season chasers)
10 of 10 winners had gained 1 to 5 wins over fences
10 of 10 winners had won a class 3 or better chase
9 of 10 winners had run in a class 2 or graded race over 2m6f+ at Cheltenham
10 of 10 winners had won over 3M+
9 of 10 winners had run in 7 or fewer handicap chases in GB & Ire
9 of 10 winners had won no more than 2 handicap chases
3 of 10 winners (last 3) had run over hurdles in late January or February
8 of 10 winners had won or placed in a hurdle or chase worth 39K+
7 of 10 winners were priced between 5/1 and 8/1


And based on the above, here's the ranking of what is still a very large field:

Duke Of Lucca17     95%
Cantlow64     94%

Saint Are24     89%
Magnanimity33     89%
Monbeg Dude24     89%
On Trend38     88%
Prince Of Pirates32     88%
Bensalem30     84%
Golden Chieftain18     84%
Ballynagour18     83%
Court By Surprise87     83%
No Secrets21     83%
Carlito Brigante25F     82%
Monkerty Tunkerty20     82%
Opening Batsman17     80%
Muirhead12     78%
Alfie Sherrin75     78%
Cross Appeal75     78%
Rigadin De Beauchene24     78%
Same Difference17     78%
Knockara Beau34     77%
Fruity O´Rooney45     77%
Chartreux54     77%
Panther Claw47     77%
Super Duty38     76%
Rolling Aces17     76%
Loch Ba55     75%
Nuts N Bolts28     75%
Frisco Depot18     72%
Tour Des Champs24     71%
Jadanli21     70%
Realt Mor10    70%
Merry King80     69%
Lost Glory150     69%
Cloudy Too24     69%
Sweeney Tunes16     67%
Mountainous25     67%
Quinz17     66%
Problema Tic18     66%
Romanesco35     66%
Wyck Hill17     66%
One In A Milan38     66%
Ackertac45     65%
Walkon45     64%
Battle Group45     64%
Ballyoliver12 5x     64%
Tarquinius47     64%
Summery Justice17     61%
Quel Esprit31     59%
Bold Sir Brian45     59%
Sire Collonges115     59%
Tatenen24     59%
Bahrain Storm11     59%
Sunnyhillboy59     58%
Tullamore Dew45     58%
Planet Of Sound88     57%
Our Mick45     57%
Nadiya De La Vega45     57%
Tenor Nivernais16     56%
Major Malarkey24     55%
Relax25     54%
Thegreatjohnbrowne45     54%
The Rainbow Hunter24     54%
Our Father31     53%
Johns Spirit45     53%
De Boitron37     53%
Dashing George18     53%
The Package59     52%
Deal Done115     51%
Tartak10    51%
White Star Line17     51%
Calgary Bay10    51%
Poole Master26     51%
Gullinbursti45     51%
Hey Big Spender31     50%
Billie Magern88     49%
Pete The Feat32     46%
Time For Spring46     46%
Pentiffic40     46%
Lively Baron24     46%
Lambro12     46%
Quantitativeeasing17     45%
Glenquest47     45%
Bescot Springs101     41%
Toner D´Oudairies44     39%
Balthazar King116     39%
Quartz De Thaix24     35%
Midnight Chase45     32%
Odysseas107     32%
Kakagh26     32%
Riguez Dancer26     28%
Prophete De Guye20     21%
Plein Pouvoir18     21%


Duke of Lucca and Cantlow lead the way on the stats / trends. I very much like the look of Cantlow, but at this stage, there can be no bet as there are doubts over which race he might be going for. Of the stats above, I've not actually factored in the SP yet, as the current prices are higher than what they will be on the day, but should Cantlow line up, he'd be sure to be amongst the favourites, and as such, would finish top of the rankings.
Report JOCI Club March 3, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
Grand Annual

Key Trends

9 out of 10 winners were aged 5 to 9
10 of 10 winners carried 10-13 or less and so are heavily favoured
8 out of 10 winners were officially rated 134 or lower
9 of 10 winners finished in first 3 on last completed chase start (exception 5th in a grade 2)
9 of 10 winners had run 1 to 5 times since August
9 of 10 winners had run in past 45 days
9 of 10 winners had run in no more than 12 chases
9 of 10 winners had run in 7 or fewer h'cap chases (3 making h'cap chase debut)
6 of 10 winners had yet to win a handicap chase (2 of the 4 others had won just 1)
8 of 10 winners had finished in the first 3 in a graded chase (1 exception had finished 6th in previous Grand Annual on only graded chase start & other exception had yet to run in a graded chase but had placed in three grade 1 hurdles)
7 of 10 winners had won at Cheltenham (1 other was placed on both starts here)
7 of 10 winners (7 of last 8) had previously run at the Cheltenham Festival (none had won)

Based on tha above (weighted) trends, ehere are my rankings for the field:

Lancetto41     93%
Toubab13     85%
Kandari42     85%
Tetlami22     84%
Alderwood40     84%
Mad Moose48     83%
Sustainability16     78%
Kapga De Cerisy21     77%
Vulcanite37     77%
Benefficient48     76%
Lambro15     76%
Far Away So Close40     76%
Saphir River62     76%
Keki Buku14     76%
Kudu Country13     75%
Edgardo Sol34     75%
Astracad90     75%
His Excellency34     74%
Ballynagour21     71%
Marshal Zhukov34     71%
Savello36     71%
Silver Roque14 5x     71%
Desert Cry40     70%
Saved By John13     70%
Garynella13     70%
Tikawa Moirette105     70%
Beeverstown22     70%
Absolutlyfantastic35F     70%
Ballywatt14     70%
Majala34     69%
Cantlow67     69%
Kid Cassidy119     68%
Soll69     68%
Call The Police19     67%
Realt Dubh19     67%
Free World21     67%
Shangani32     63%
Viva Colonia40     62%
Parsnip Pete43     62%
Ulck Du Lin83     61%
Anquetta40     61%
Donnas Palm110     61%
Ballyadam Brook19     61%
Escort´men21     61%
Sew On Target14     61%
Gus Macrae20     60%
Regal D´Estruval172     60%
Tataniano105     58%
Petit Robin34     58%
Tatenen27     58%
Wishfull Thinking34     57%
French Opera34     57%
Pigeon Island27     57%
Drumshambo34     54%
Rody62     54%
Eastlake41     53%
Nobunaga15     53%
Green Belt Elite1135     53%
Baily Green79     52%
Shooters Wood34     52%
Renard20     52%
Stagecoach Pearl26     51%
King Edmund41     50%
Oiseau De Nuit20     49%
Oh Crick20     49%
Tanks For That34     47%
Falcon Island41     42%
Kumbeshwar48     40%
Anay Turge21     35%
Nozic21     34%
Mister Matt146     26%


A clear leader on the trends is Lancetto, and there are a few bunched up behind him, including Alderwood, who I will be having a close look at once running plans are finalised, as he could be one of the Festival plot horses.
Report JOCI Club March 7, 2013 12:23 AM GMT
Supreme Novices Hurdle

Key Trends

34 of 38 winners were aged 5 or 6
9 of 10 winners ran in the past 55 days (12/13 run last 52 days)
8 of 10 winners (14/16) won last time out (2 exceptions placed)
8 of 10 winners (last 5) posted an RPR of 137+ last time out
10 of 10 (11/12) winners had run 2 to 4 times over hurdles since August
10 of 10 winners won at least half their hurdle starts
9 of 10 winners had not finished worst that 3rd in completed hurdles races that season (exception was 4th in the grade 1 Christmas Hurdle)
6 of 10 winners had finished in the first 4 in a grade 1 hurdle
8 of 10 winners had won a bumper (other 2 were flat bred rated 86+ on the level)
2 of 10 winners had won at Cheltenham (6 others were having first course start & other two finished 5th & 2nd in previous Champion Bumper)
11 of the last 12 winners had a pre-race RPR of at least 132
6 of the last 8 winners going off 10/1 or bigger.


Applying these trends to the field (weighted), gives the following ranking:

Champagne Fever 100%
Melodic Rendezvous 91%
My Tent Or Yours 86%
Un Atout 86%
Puffin Billy 84%
Mozoltov 84%
Jezki 83%
Rule The World 76%
Pique Sous 75%
Rock Critic 74%
River Maigue 65%
Dodging Bullets 61%
Ifandbutwhynot 56%
I Shot The Sheriff 47%
Cause Of Causes 37%
Cheltenian 36%
Flying Cross 26%
Fire King 17%
Ostentation 17%

Selections: Champagne Fever (23/1); My Tent Or Yours (2.96)

With doubts over the participation of Champagne Fever, additional insurance taken with a bet of My Tent Or Yours, based on his facile win in the former Tote Gold Trophy.
Report buddeliea March 7, 2013 7:43 AM GMT
Why ignore the 2nd best on your rankings?

hes the winnerWink
Report alleged22 March 7, 2013 10:21 AM GMT
the question is by how far MTOY wins Wink
Report JOCI Club March 7, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
buddeliea 07 Mar 13 07:43 
Why ignore the 2nd best on your rankings?

hes the winner


Fair point, to be honest, I like the top four, but you can't back them all, and in the end, I'm swayed by MTOY's facile victory in the Tote Gold Trophy, and the fact that Melodic Rendezvous has to overcome the 'age' stat.
Report duffy March 7, 2013 8:02 PM GMT
I get the impression when I see MR in action that he wants to go further.
Report JOCI Club March 7, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
JLT Specialty Chase

Trends:

10 of 10 winners were aged 7 to 10 and they have also filled all 38 places
Irish bred horses have won 8 of last 10 from approximately 51.5% of total runners.
7 of 10 winners carried 10-5 to 10-13 and so are heavily favoured.
All 10 winners were officially rated 129 to 143, 4 of last 5 winners were rated 142 or 143.
8 of 10 winners finished in first 3 last time out (6 won)
8 of 10 winners had posted an RPR of 134+ on last chase start
8 of 10 winners were 1st or 2nd season chasers (both exceptions were 3rd season chasers)
10 of 10 winners had gained 1 to 5 wins over fences
10 of 10 winners had won a class 3 or better chase
9 of 10 winners had run in a class 2 or graded race over 2m6f+ at Cheltenham
10 of 10 winners had won over 3M+
9 of 10 winners had run in 7 or fewer handicap chases in GB & Ire
9 of 10 winners had won no more than 2 handicap chases
3 of 10 winners (last 3) had run over hurdles in late January or February
8 of 10 winners had won or placed in a hurdle or chase worth 39K+
7 of 10 winners were priced between 5/1 and 8/1


And based on the above, here's the ranking of the latest field:

Duke Of Lucca17     95%
Cantlow64     94%

17 Golden Chieftain18     89%
Monbeg Dude24     89%
Saint Are24     84%
10 No Secrets21     83%
32 Carlito Brigante25F     82%
25 Monkerty Tunkerty20     82%
21 Chartreux54     82%
Opening Batsman17     80%
Muirhead12     78%
29 Alfie Sherrin75     78%
Fruity O´Rooney45     77%
30 Loch Ba55     75%
28 Nuts N Bolts28     75%
Knockara Beau34     72%
Tour Des Champs24     71%
Jadanli21     70%
Merry King80     69%
Cloudy Too24     69%
11 Mountainous25     67%
18 Summery Justice17     66%
Walkon45     64%
16 Battle Group45     64%
9 Ballyoliver12 5x     64%
23 Tullamore Dew45     63%
Our Mick45     62%
20 Relax25     59%
Sire Collonges115     59%
22 Johns Spirit45     58%
Sunnyhillboy59     58%
Planet Of Sound88     57%
Nadiya De La Vega45     57%
Tenor Nivernais16     56%
19 White Star Line17     56%
14 Thegreatjohnbrowne45     54%
15 De Boitron37     53%
The Package59     52%
31 Deal Done115     51%
27 Tartak10     51%
26 Poole Master26     51%
24 Gullinbursti45     51%
Hey Big Spender10     50%
12 Billie Magern10     49%
29 Alfie Sherrin75     46%
8 Time For Spring46     46%
7 Pentiffic40     46%
5 Lively Baron24     46%
Quantitativeeasing17     45%
6 Glenquest47     45%
1 Bescot Springs101     41%
13 Toner D´Oudairies44     39%
Quartz De Thaix24     35%
Midnight Chase45     32%
3 Riguez Dancer26     28%
4 Prophete De Guye20     21%
2 Plein Pouvoir18     21%

Selections: Duke Of Lucca (22) & Cantlow (9.6)

Only small interest so far, pending running plans. Will go in again once plans finalised (or not as the case may be).
Report buddeliea March 7, 2013 9:05 PM GMT
Thats a fair point Duffy,and a soft ground Supreme may well suit a horse with good form over 2m on soft,that stays further than 2.
Report JOCI Club March 8, 2013 12:09 AM GMT
National Hunt Chase

The trends:

7 and 8 year olds have won 9 of last 10 but have represented approximately 65.8% of total runners.
7 of 10 winners finished in first 2 last time (3 exceptions unplaced in a graded chase last time)
10 of 10 winners had run 4 to 8 times since August
9 of 10 winners finished in the first 2 in a 3M+ chase
9 of 10 winners had won a hurdle or chase over 3M+
8 of 10 winners had run in the past 50 days
8 of 10 winners had run in 3 to 9 chases (2 exceptions were 2nd season chasers)
10 of 10 winners made their debut in a bumper, hurdle or point to point
5 of 8 British-trained winners (last 4) had won or placed in Newbury chase over 2M 4F+
7 of 10 winners were held up towards the rear


Based on the above, and for the current slimmed down field of 30 horses, I get the following ranking:

Godsmejudge  84%
Itoldyou  84%
Hunters Lodge 83%
Emperor´s Choice 81%
Benheir 76%
Highland Lodge 76%
So Fine 76%
Fentara 76%
Present To You 74%
Tofino Bay 73%
Hawkes Point 72%
Merry King 71%
Back In Focus 71%
Twirling Magnet 66%
Tour Des Champs 65%
Court By Surprise 64%
Drawn N Drank 64%
Real Milan 64%
Vesper Bell 64%
Buddy Bolero 62%
Rival D´Estruval 62%
Sacred Mountain 61%
Boston Bob 60%
Our Island 56%
Rose Of The Moon 54%
Sea Of Thunder 54%
Top Smart 50%
Lyreen Legend 43%
Scampi Boy 22%
Heathyards Flyer 20%

So on ratings we're looking at a shortlist of 4 horses:

Godsmejudge  84%
Itoldyou  84%
Hunters Lodge 83%
Emperor´s Choice 81%

So far, I've had a wager on Godsmejudge @ 13.5 (and lost a small amount on defector Makethemostofnow), and just had a little on Hunters Lodge at 150/1.

I will be having a look at the claims of others over the next few days.
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
Albert Bartlett Hurdle

8 out of 10 winners Irish / French bred
7 of 8 winners finished in the first 2 last time out (exception was 4th in the grade 2 Boyne Hurdle against seasoned hurdlers)
8 of 8 winners posted their highest RPR in last 2 starts
7 of 8 winners posted an RPR of 145+ last time
7 of 8 winners had run 3 or 4 times over hurdles in GB and Ire
6 of 8 winners had won a graded hurdle (2 exceptions placed in a grade 2)
8 of 8 winners had won over 2M 4F+
7 of 8 winners (last 7) had not run on the flat (exception had run in non-thoroughbred races in France)
7 of 8 winners were priced 9/1 or below & came from first 5 in the betting.


Based on the above, my rankings are as follows:

At Fishers Cross 86%
Champagne Fever 86%
Pont Alexandre 82%
Shutthefrontdoor 75%
African Gold 73%
Gevrey Chambertin 68%
Lienosus 67%
Sizing Gold 67%
Inish Island 66%
Rule The World 66%
Coneygree 61%
Ballycasey 60%
Cloudy Copper 60%
Ardkilly Witness 59%
O´Faolains Boy 59%
Return Spring 59%
Road To Riches 59%
Virginia Ash 59%
Utopie Des Bordes 59%
I Shot The Sheriff 58%
Our Vinnie 58%
Mozoltov 56%
Ballybough Pat 52%
Le Bec 52%
Un Atout 51%
Aaim To Prosper 50%
Bucking The Trend 50%
Flaming Charmer 50%
Loose Preformer 50%
Rocknrollrambo 50%
Superior Quality 50%
Bondage 49%
Bonisland 43%
Midnight Appeal 24%

The bet has to be At Fishers Cross, as the other highest rated horses have alternative engagements. Looks a real stayer, looks tough abd a battler, and has good winning Cheltenham form. Will be confident if there's a nice bit of cut in the ground.

Selection: At Fishers Cross
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
Triumph Hurdle

Trends:

9 of 10 winners were by a group 1-winning sire (exception’s sire hadn’t run in a group 1)
10 of 10 winners ran the past 18 to 45 days
8 of 10 (16/19) winners won last time out
7 of 10 winners (last 7) posted an RPR of 132+ in one or both of last 2 runs
9 of 10 winners had run 2 to 6 times over hurdles (exception won grade 2 Adonis on 1 hurdles run)
10 of 10 winners had won at class 3 or higher
7 of 10 winners had won a hurdles race 7+ lengths
9 of 10 winners won at least half their hurdle starts
The 10 winners had collectively run in 32 hurdles race prior to winning this, they finished in first 3 in 28 of those 32 starts.
9 of 10 winners had run on the flat
6 of 7 (13/15) winners that ran on flat in Britain were officially rated 80 or higher
9 of 10 winners had won a hurdle at Newbury, Kempton or Market Rasen
7 of the last 9 winners made their hurdling debut after November
15 of the last 19 winners had won at least twice over hurdles
Since the introduction of the Fred Winter Juvenile H’cap Hurdle to the Festival in 2005 this race has been won by one of the first 4 in the betting in 7 of last 8 years.


Based on the above trends, here are my rankings:

Ruacana    76%
Far West 76%
Our Conor 74%
Kashmir Peak 71%

Hidden Justice 69%
Diakali    68%
Rolling Star 63%
Swnymor    62%
Somemothersdohavem 58%
Chris Pea Green    58%
Sametegal 52%
Stocktons Wing 50%
Lac Fontana 46%
Masters Blazing    45%
Blood Cotil 43%
Cape Explorer 39%
King Of Dudes 39%
Uriah Heep 39%
Ibsen 39%
Gassin Golf 38%
Vasco Du Ronceray 37%

Ruacana comes out very marginally ahead of Far West in the ratings, but was exposed behind Our Connor recently, so preference is for Far West, who has done nothing wrong, posted a couple of wide margin wins at Cheltenham, and showed last time out that he possesses plenty of speed and versatility. Our Connor is very much respected, and I may also have a saver on the day (though this is not generally a race for the Irish.

Selection: Far West
Report Haemolysis March 9, 2013 7:39 PM GMT
Great work all of this joci lad - but have to pull you up on the melodic rendezvous one. You can't do all those stats to just go back on it and recommend one that is 5% less. Stick to your guns.
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
He was overlooked reluctantly, as I've been impressed with his wins. Worried about the age stat, but depending on what happens to Champagne Fever (will he run here), I mught still end up having some on him.
Report Haemolysis March 9, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
Fair enough. Keep up the good work!
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 8:49 PM GMT
Foxhunters


Trends:

Horses aged 6 to 10 have a combined record of 9-10-138
8 of 10 winners finished in first 3 last time out
6 of 10 winners (last 4) won last time out
9 of 10 winners ran in the past 35 days
6 of 10 winners had won at least 2 chases under rules (4 exceptions had run in less than 7 chases)
9 of 10 winners (last 7) had run in no more than 3 handicap chases
10 of 10 winners had run no more than 3 times under rules that season
10 of 10 winners had won over 3M+
8 of 10 winners had won or placed in a class 3 or better (2 exceptions had yet to run in better than class 6)
7 of 10 winners led or raced prominently (1 exception was Zemsky who likely would have been beaten by front-running Baby Run had he not unseated 2 out)
6 of 10 winners were priced 14/1 or bigger and in past 6 years there have been two 33/1 winners and two 20/1 winners.


Based on the above trends, here are my ratings:

Creevytennant 90%
Divine Intavention 89%
Salsify    86%
Rumbury Grey 84%
Earth Dream 82%
Galant Nuit 82%
Louis Pasteur 82%
Radetsky March 82%
That´s Rhythm 80%
Kirkleigh 79%
Dante´s Storm 79%
Oscar Delta 78%
Tricky Trickster 77%
Cottage Oak 76%
Current Exchange 76%
Benedictus 74%
Boxing Along 74%
Offshore Account 73%
Hoopy 72%
Keenan´s Future    66%
Cloudy Lane 64%
Doctor Kingsley    64%
Faasel    64%
Vic Venturi 64%
Backstage 62%
Coombe Hill 62%
Whizzaar 62%
Rathcor    58%
What A Laugh 58%
Merchant Royal    56%
Metal Detector    56%
Chapoturgeon 54%
Rainbow Tree 47%
Up There 18%

This is an interesting one. Salsify provided me with a nice winner when taking this last year and I fancy him again to run a very nice race. However, the trends threw up a top rated horse who won impressively last time out, in Creevytennant, and who was a huge price when I got on. The one drawback, is that it's been stated he has a definite preference for going right handed. At the price, I was tempted to make a small investment though, and will also probably back Salsify on the day to repeat last year's win. Divine Intavention will come under consideration on the day, if Creevytennant fails to make the field.

Selection: Creevytennant @ 100/1; Salsify SP
Report Arklearkle March 9, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
Joci I considered Salisfy a good thing on good ground or better but unlikely to see that now. He is very ground dependent.
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
Yes, will make decision on the day. Have til Friday, so ground could be quite different from the first two days. He does have form on soft/heavy ground, which is what it's normally like in Ireland.
Report Arklearkle March 9, 2013 10:53 PM GMT
Just a question Joci re the 4 mile chase. Could you explain the relative low rating of Back In Focus. Given his ground I would have considered him one of the class acts in this race.
Report marychain1 March 9, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
Really cant see Far West winning the Triumph, he is one of the horses of the whole Festival that I am keenest to oppose. Good thread though.
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 11:02 PM GMT
Sure, Back in Focus does not 'hit' 3 of the trends, namely:

1 Last time out run is outside of the desirable range
2 The typical winner would have had between 4 & 8 runs since August (BIF has had 3, with the 4th on 22nd July, so he only just fails this test, and I can see how you could 'relax' this if you wanted)
3 Not won or placed over 2m 4f at Newbury in the past (again, seeing as he's Irish trained, you might want to disregard this)

Of the three, I'd say the duration to last run is the most compelling.

Wouldn't put you off him if you really fancy him though, as his class might bring him through.
Report JOCI Club March 9, 2013 11:06 PM GMT
marychain1 09 Mar 13 22:58 
Really cant see Far West winning the Triumph, he is one of the horses of the whole Festival that I am keenest to oppose. Good thread though.


Anything in particular putting you off him?
Report marychain1 March 9, 2013 11:26 PM GMT
Just think he's priced up as much on his stable as his achievements, but Nicholls' previous winners of this have been different types entirely; ex-flat raiders (Zarkander & Celestial Halo). I'm sure Far West will go onto be a super animal but I'm not sure its a Triumph winner.

I don't have anything in particular to put up against it (if forced to pick I'd probably go for Rolling Star) but happy to take the field against it at 4/1.
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 12:42 AM GMT
Mares Hurdle

Short and sweet - Quevega.

Selection: Quevega
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
Day 1 Summary

Supreme - Champagne Fever @ 23; My Tent Or Yours @ 2.9-2.96
Arkle - Simonsig @ SP
JT Specialty - Duke Of Lucca @ 23; Cantlow @ SP
Champion Hurdle - Hurricane Fly @ SP; Rock On Ruby @ 5.8
Cross Country - Arabella Boy @ 7-7.2
Mares Hurdle - Quevega @ SP
Pulteney - The Druids Nephew @ 13
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 9:59 AM GMT
World Hurdle

Trends:

8 of 10 winners have been aged 6 to 8 (2 exceptions were Inglis Drever’s third win and Big Buck’s’ fourth win)
8 of 10 winners were French Bred
10 of 10 winners finished in the first two on all hurdles starts that season
9 of 10 winners posted an RPR of 163+ last time (exception posted RPR of 158)
10 of 10 winners had run at least 8 times over hurdles
10 of 10 winners had run 1 to 4 times that season
8 of 10 winners had won over course and distance (2 others having first course start)
9 of 10 winners had won over 3M+ (exception was Inglis Drever in 2005 who had won over 2M 5F but not run over further than that)
8 of 10 winners had won a grade 1 hurdle (other 2 had finished 2nd in a grade 1)
9 of 10 winners had won a grade 1 or 2 hurdle that season (exception had only 1 run, in a handicap hurdle, that season & had won a grade 1 on penultimate start)
7 of 10 winners had run in the past 50 days (3 exceptions had won the previous year's race)
7 of 10 winners had previously finished in the first 2 at the Festival
10 of 10 winners came from the first 4 in the betting


Rankings based on the above:

Reve De Sivola    100%
Oscar Whisky    73%

Peddlers Cross    63%
Zaidpour    60%
Bog Warrior    49%
Solwhit    49%
So Young    45%
Quevega    43%
Wonderful Charm    41%
Fiveforthree    38%
Back In Focus    33%
American Spin    32%
Smad Place    31%
Celestial Halo    29%
Get Me Out Of Here    24%
Cloudy Spirit    24%
Oscara Dara    23%
Cross Kennon    22%


Reve De Sivola, a real stayer, ticks all the boxes, and has already taken the scalp of Oscar Whisky at the course, and therefore has to be the main selction. However, I rate the latter very highly, and at the prices, it's definitely possible to have a cover bet or ech way bet on OW, which is probably what I will do on the day.

Selection: Reve De Sivola
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 10, 2013 10:04 AM GMT
He does tick a lot of boxes Joci, given a positive ride he will be very hard to keep of the first 3.
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 10:07 AM GMT
Jewson Novices Chase

No firm trends to go on, given the young age of this race. However, I'm hoping Dynaste will chose this option ahead of the RSA Chase, and if he does so, then he will be the bet.


Selection: Dynaste @ SP (assuming defects from RSA Chase)
Report Regular Fries March 10, 2013 10:08 AM GMT
Have backed MTOY (10's) and Champagne Fever (16's), the latter came out on top from my trends analysis also.

Have also backed The Druids Nephew in the last, have Quevega running in some multis.
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 10:24 AM GMT
Ryanair Chase

The trends:

6 of 8 winners finished in the first 3 last time (2 exceptions unplaced in King George)
6 of 8 winners achieved an RPR of 154+ on their last chase start
7 of 8 winners had won at Cheltenham (5 over the trip)
6 of 8 winners had won a graded chase at Cheltenham
8 of 8 winners had 1 to 4 runs that season
5 of 8 winners had won or been placed in the Paddy Power or **** Gold Cups
8 of 8 winners had won a graded race
8 of 8 winners were officially rated 152+
7 of 8 winners (last 7) had won over 2M 5F or further
Since race became a grade 1, 4 of 5 winners had won a grade 1 chase & other had won Paddy Power Gold Cup
7 of 8 winners were priced 6/1 or below and came from the first 3 in the betting.

Based on the above, here are my rankings:

Riverside Theatre 80%
First Lieutenant 75%
Menorah 74%
Ghizao 74%
Champion Court 71%
Cue Card 71%
Sizing Europe 65%
Finian´s Rainbow 59%
Albertas Run 57%
For Non Stop 52%
Walkon 46%

A tricky race top weigh up, if only for uncertain running plans. Riverside Theatre comes out top of the rankings, and as last year's winner, merits great respect. However, it's the one below him in the rankings that I am most interested in. First Lieutenant has been running really well in all the big races, including the Hennessy. My observation is that he travels really well, and just gets outstayed at the business end of 3m+ races. It happened at the Festival last year too. He has good Cheltenham form, handles the track, and I think this trip will be ideal for him. The big question is whether he will run in this, or in the Gold Cup. Cue Card is a worry, but I have a suspicion he will be let down by his jumping.

Selection: First Lieutenant @ SP
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 11:39 AM GMT
Fred Winter

Preliminary analysis as so many declared runners, but here we go.....

Trends:

6 of 8 winners have been officially rated 124 to 130
8 of 8 winners were sired by a horse that finished in first 2 in a group 1 on flat
5 of 8 winners won last time out (3 exceptions unplaced in grade 2)
6 of 8 winners posted an RPR of 118+ in last 2 hurdles runs
7 of 8 winners had run 1 to 3 times over hurdles in GB&Ire
8 of 8 winners had run since start of February (7 out of 8 in last 28 days)
8 of 8 winners had run in no more than one h'cap hurdle (6 were making h'cap debut and other 2 won their only handicap hurdle start)
5 of 8 winners had run on the flat (3 exceptions began career in a bumper or hurdle in France)
3 of 3 winners to have raced on flat in GB&Ire were rated 89+ & had contested a group/listed race
2 of 2 Irish-trained winners had yet to win over hurdles


Based on the above, here are my current rankings:

Zamdy Man25     92%
Habesh26F     83%
Three Kingdoms20     83%
Fatcatinthehat46     80%
Pistol26     80%
Bordoni36     80%

24 Ibsen25     75%
22 Sash Of Honour26     75%
21 King Of Dudes21     73%
Milord32     72%
9 Calculated Risk4    72%
Totalize27     70%
Mcvicar28F     70%
Stocktons Wing18     69%
Saphir Du Rheu65     69%
Counsel61     67%
Blood Cotil32     61%
Ruacana32     61%
Hilali14F     61%
Flaxen Flare32     58%
27 Knight Of Pleasure25     56%
20 Sky Khan34     55%
18 One Fine Day18     55%
14 Pacelli Road17     55%
13 Hallmark Star5     55%
11 Whipcrackaway4    55%
10 Dollar Bill4    55%
7 Faanan Aldaar7     55%
5 Lone Foot Laddie38     55%
3 King Arthur21     55%
2 Dont Take Me Alive24     55%
1 Arte Del Calcio4    55%
Caid Du Berlais32     53%
26 Angelot Du Berlais34     53%
25 Dovils Date74     53%
Another Sensation96     52%
15 Deepsand29     52%
Viconte Du Noyer322     50%
Kalmann122     50%
South South West18     48%
Ptit Zig35     48%
19 Docs Legacy38     44%
16 Foster´s Road18     44%
12 Hartside48     44%
6 Mr Lando4    44%
23 Tidal Way38     42%
Sametegal22     41%
8 Juno The Muffinman45     33%
17 Captain Cardington4    31%
4 Asteroid Belt125     31%
Megalypos67     30%

Shortlist:

Zamdy Man 92%
Habesh 83%
Three Kingdoms 83%
Fatcatinthehat 80%
Pistol 80%
Bordoni 80%

Zamdy Man heads the list, and is currently at a tasty price of 23/1. Not sure if he's a definite runner, but if declared he will be a bet. I have already backed Bordoni as I think he could be well handicapped and expect him to run a big race. Moree work / analysis to be done on the Tuesday night in the pub!

Selections: Bordoni @ 14; Zamdy Man (if declared)
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 11:49 AM GMT
Champion Bumper

The trends:

9 of 10 winners were sired by a winner of a group 1 or 2 on the flat
9 of 10 winners won a bumper with 13+ runners
10 of 10 winners had run 1 to 4 times that season
9 of 10 winners had run no more than twice since August and not finished outside first 2 in any of those starts
9 of 10 winners (last 9) won last time (exception was 2nd in Open bumper at November meeting)
8 of 10 winners had won at a left-handed track
7 of 10 winners had won a bumper at Naas, Fairyhouse or Punchestown
7 of 10 winners made their rules debut at either Leopardstown or Punchestown
2 of 3 British-trained winners made their debut in Ireland
9 of 10 winners had either been beaten or had to battle to gain one of their wins (1 exception was Cue Card who had run just once, winning a class 6 Fontwell bumper easily)


Rankings based on the above:

9 Purple Bay    80%
11 Gallant Tipp    71%
Sgt Reckless    70%
Union Dues    70%
Le Vent D´Antan    70%
6 Shield    68%
2 Yes Sir Brian    67%
Briar Hill    61%
Doctor Harper    61%
Golantilla    61%
The Liquidator    61%
8 Centasia    61%
Blackmail    60%
Regal Encore    60%
3 Unowhatimeanharry    60%
Johnny Og    60%
Sizing Tennessee    59%
Our Pollyanna    59%
Drumlee    51%
Empiracle    51%
10 Kayf Moss    51%
Milo Man    51%
Posiden Sea    51%
Vieux Lion Rouge    51%
Caledonia    50%
Hellorboston    50%
Pure Science    50%
4 Be Bop Boru    41%
Fascino Rustico    41%
7 Mister Nibbles    41%
Monkey Kingdom    41%
5 The Clock Leary    41%
I´m Fraam Govan    40%
Vinstar    40%
1 Lady Lectra    21%

Purple Bay stands alone at the top of the rankings, and I had a small bet at a big price, but am uncertain whether he's an intended runner or make the cut. I will be having another bet on the day, but am undecided at the moment.

Selection: Purple Bay @ 44 (not a certain runner at this stage)
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 12:50 PM GMT
I just had another run through the Foxhunters, after updating the trends, and dropping the trend on starting price, as I don't think it's that significant, and came up with the following revised ranking:

Salsify    93%
Divine Intavention    90%
Creevytennant    89%

Louis Pasteur    81%
Galant Nuit    81%
Dante´s Storm    80%
Kirkleigh    79%
That´s Rhythm    79%
Benedictus    75%
Boxing Along    75%
Current Exchange    74%
Cottage Oak    72%
Earth Dream    72%
Hoopy    72%
Radetsky March    72%
Rumbury Grey    72%
Offshore Account    70%
Tricky Trickster    70%
Doctor Kingsley    65%
Oscar Delta    64%
Coombe Hill    60%
Backstage    60%
Cloudy Lane    60%
Faasel    60%
Vic Venturi    60%
Chapoturgeon    58%
Rathcor    57%
What A Laugh    56%
Merchant Royal    53%
Keenan´s Future    53%
Metal Detector    52%
Whizzaar    48%
Rainbow Tree    43%
Up There    12%

Salsify has taken over at the top. He would have been a bet anyway, and I'm still happy with 100/1 about Creevytennant. Will take a look at Divine Intavention on the day.

Selections: Creevytennant @ 100; Salsify @ SP
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 1:31 PM GMT
Grand Annual


Public Health Warning - this is my least successful race of the festival from a betting perspective, so you're advised to ignore the following!

The trends:

Age 5-9 (9 out of 10)
10 of 10 winners carried 10-13 or less and so are heavily favoured.
8 of 10 winners were officially rated 129 to 139.
9 of 10 winners finished in first 3 on last completed chase start (exception unplaced in grade 2)
9 of 10 winners had run 1 to 5 times since August
9 of 10 winners had run in past 45 days
9 of 10 winners had previously run in 4 to 12 chases
8 of 10 winners had run in 4 or fewer handicap chases (4 were making their h'cap chase debut)
7 of 10 winners had yet to win a handicap chase (2 of the 3 others had won just 1)
7 of 10 winners had finished in the first 3 in a grade chase
7 of 10 winners had won at Cheltenham (1 other was placed on both starts here)
8 of 10 winners had previously run at the Cheltenham Festival (none had won)
Only 1 of 10 winners raced prominently

And based on the above trends (I haven't looked at the prominent racers yet), here are my rankings:

Lancetto41     85%
Tetlami22     78%
Alderwood40     78%
Kapga De Cerisy21     72%
Saphir River62     71%
His Excellency34     68%
Mad Moose48     68%
Savello12 5x     65%
Sustainability16     65%
Desert Cry40     64%
Anquetta40     64%
Keki Buku14     64%
Shangani32     64%
Saved By John13     64%
Marshal Zhukov34     63%
Majala34     62%
Benefficient48     61%
Tatenen27     60%
Viva Colonia40     57%
Absolutlyfantastic35F     57%
Ballywatt14     57%
Renard20     56%
Parsnip Pete43     56%
Gus Macrae20     56%
Ballyadam Brook19     56%
King Edmund41     54%
Regal D´Estruval172     54%
Petit Robin34     53%
Kid Cassidy119     53%
Oh Crick20     52%
Pigeon Island27     52%
French Opera34     51%
Drumshambo34     49%
Eastlake41     49%
Escort´men21     49%
Sew On Target14     49%
Rody62     49%
Green Belt Elite1135     48%
Ulck Du Lin83     47%
Shooters Wood34     47%
Tanks For That34     44%
Nobunaga15     41%
Falcon Island41     40%
Baily Green79     38%
Stagecoach Pearl26     38%
Kumbeshwar48     37%
Oiseau De Nuit20     36%
Nozic21     23%
Mister Matt146     17%

So far, I've just had the one bet on the top rated Lancetto, but not sure if he's a guaranteed runner, so will need to look more closely during the week. The other one I'd be interested in is Alderwood, who could be one of the Fetival plot horses.

Selection: Lancetto @ 46
; probable bet on Alderwood @ SP
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
Pertemps Hurdle

The trends:

9 of 10 winners were aged 6 to 9 and they accounted for 31 of 40 places, though they have accounted for almost 77% of the total runners.
Horses carrying 10-11 or less have won 8 of last 9 and filled 29 of the last 36 places.
Horses officially rated 129 to 142 have won 8 of the last 10 from approximately 64.7% of the total runners & they have filled all 19 of 20 places in the past 5 years.
3 of 10 winners won last time out (6 of 7 others hadn’t won a race that season)
10 of 10 winners had their last run between 20 to 61 days ago
9 of 10 winners (last 9) had run 3 to 7 times that season
10 of 10 winners had won 2 to 5 hurdles races
6 of 10 winner ran in 2 to 4 handicap hurdles (3 of 4 exceptions previously finished in first 6 in this)
10 of 10 winners had won no more than 3 handicap hurdles
9 of 10 winners had won a Class 3 or higher hurdle
8 of 10 winners had won over 3M+ (2 exceptions had finished 2nd over 3M+)
6 of 10 winners were NH bred
4 of 10 winners were rated 71 to 85 on the flat
Only 1 of 10 winners had won at Cheltenham before (2 having first course start). Buena Vista, who had finished won or placed in this race in previous 2 seasons was only horse with course winning form.
Previous Festival form is not essential.
6 of 10 winners led or raced prominently
No massively significant trend with regard to prices though last 6 winners went between 14/1 & 20/1.
Beware of backing any horse at single-figure odds in this, as in the past 9 years only 3 of the 33 runners priced shorter than 10/1 have made the places.


I have not looked at the prominent racing angle yet (too many runners / too little time), but absent that, here are my rankings:

34 Top Of The Range6 5x     83%
39 Ely Brown61     80%
24 Battle Group47     80%

11 Sixty Something26     72%
9 Amigo26     72%
According To Trev39     71%
American Spin33     71%
32 Hada Men26     71%
30 Alpha Victor38     71%
18 Coole Avenue39     71%
31 Seymour Eric26     70%
19 Monetary Fund12     70%
38 Son Of Flicka61     69%
37 Captain Sunshine33     69%
16 Mister Dillon22     69%
Shutthefrontdoor36     66%
25 Art Professor35     66%
10 Storm Survivor15     65%
Medinas40     64%
Holywell61     64%
Jetson75     64%
26 Connectivity712     64%
23 Paint The Clouds517     64%
First Fandango58     63%
Double Ross40     63%
Pateese32     63%
Bakbenscher35     62%
Royal Reveille39     62%
12 Buachaill Alainn90     62%
Action Master77     61%
17 Kayf Aramis12     61%
7 Dolatulo33     61%
Hollow Tree40     60%
36 American Trilogy78     59%
20 The Tracey Shuffle21     59%
Sam Winner48     57%
14 Knight Pass22     55%
2 Medicinal Compound39     55%
28 Nagpur26     54%
1 Nampour78     54%
Bouggler26     53%
22 Return Spring23     53%
13 Counting House90     53%
3 Frontier Dancer98     53%
Berties Dream19     52%
33 Ardkilly Witness26     52%
29 Palace Jester7     52%
27 Hold On Julio26     52%
15 Blissful Moment19     50%
4 Kaylif Aramis19     50%
Ballybough Pat75     49%
Any Given Day28     47%
Dursey Sound61     46%
Close House78     46%
Junior33     45%
Stonemaster75     45%
35 Big Easy96     45%
8 Katkeau19     45%
21 Cockney Trucker6     44%
6 Acapulco18     42%
Catch Me39     36%
Fair Along104     29%
5 Blue Cannon6F     18%


The top 3 would make a nice shortlist, but no firm conclusions at this stage, so a shortlist only.

Top Of The Range 83% (17s)
Ely Brown 80% (20s)
Battle Group 80% (46s)
Report JOCI Club March 10, 2013 11:38 PM GMT
Summary of bets (so far):

Tuesday

1:30 Champagne Fever @ 23; My Tent Or Yours @ 2.9-2.96
2:05 Simonsig @ SP
2:40 Duke Of Lucca @ 23; Cantlow @ SP
3:20 Hurricane Fly @ SP; Rock On Ruby @ 5.8
4:00 Arabella Boy @ 7-7.2
4:40 Quevega @ SP
5:15 The Druids Nephew @ 13.5

Wednesday

1:30 Godsmejudge @ 11.5-13.5; Hunters Lodge @ 150 Grin
2:05 Pont Alexandre @ 3.25
2:40 Super Duty @ 30; Boston Bob @ 5.3
3:20 Sprinter Sacre @ SP
4:00 Pendra @ 11
4:40 Bordoni @ 14; Zamdy Man @ 23
5:15 Purple Bay @ 44

Thursday

1:30 Dynaste @ SP
2:05 Top Of The Range @ 17.5
2:40 First Lieutenant @ SP
3:20 Reve De Sivola @ 5.2; Oscar Whisky @ SP
4:00 Undecided
4:40 Undecided

Friday

1:30 Far West @ SP
2:05 Undecided
2:40 At Fishers Cross @ 5.2
3:20 Sir Des Champs @ 5.1
4:00 Salsify @ 3.85; Creevytennant @ 100
4:40 Undecided
5:15 Lancetto @ 46; Alderwood @ SP


Good luck everyone!
Report judorick March 12, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
Great start Chris!
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2013 2:54 PM GMT
2 out of 2 - please keep it up for another 3 days so my life changing acca comes inExcited
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2013 2:55 PM GMT
well done jocci !
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
Think Golden Chieftan your top rated runner in the JLT.Grin
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2013 4:14 PM GMT
The Fly goes in as well - hope you have an acca on.Devil
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2013 4:14 PM GMT
Tricast in the Champion Hurdle as well to boot.Shocked
Report GoldCupWinner March 12, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
Hope it keeps going, especially in the last race!
Report tomking March 12, 2013 6:52 PM GMT
Great start - well done JOCI!

Interesting to see other stats threads/sites. 

The weighting applied to the trends appear to be equally (if not more) important than the trends themselves imo.
Report JOCI Club March 12, 2013 9:14 PM GMT
Cheers, not a bad day today. Managed to get the first 5 winners, which was my best first day ever. That also included Champagne Fever @ 23 and even better Golden Chieftain, who came top of the ratings after the overnight declarations, came in at 36! Brilliant to see Hurricane Fly come back to form, and Quevega to battle back from a seemingly impossible position. For those of you who got my spreadsheet, then hope you managed to be on a couple of the winners. The trends even called the first 2 home in a couple of races. Let's not get carried away though, as tomorrow could be a completely different proposition.
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 12, 2013 9:29 PM GMT
Not bad Laugh

very well done Joci
Report wallis March 12, 2013 10:07 PM GMT
JOCI , can you tell me why Drawn N Drank is so low in your ratings for the Hunt chase when he appears to tick nearly all the boxes ? thanks
Report alleged22 March 12, 2013 11:47 PM GMT
top notch joci
Report thewrongtrousers March 13, 2013 1:02 PM GMT
Well done for yesterday Joci, wish I'd seen the thread then would have been top of the local Nap - oh well can't complain am still in second.

Selections look good for today as well the only one I'm not sure about is Boston Bob, he's a definite lay for me, although saying that I normally have at least one wrong a day so may well be that one.
Report JOCI Club March 13, 2013 11:45 PM GMT
Another decent day today. Three winners, The New One was 100% rated, and a decent price at 6s. Then the machine, Sprinter Sacre at 1/4 and managed to find the winner of the Coral Cup, Medinas at 42/1 on the Tote (however I did back my top 5 rated in that race to spread my risk) and was concentrating on one of my other selections Ericht, when Medinas came from the clouds. Bit unlucky in the RSA as Boston Bob fell when in front at the last, but cannot be too greedy. Tomorrow I like Dynaste, Top of the Range, First Lieutenant, have backed both Reve de Sivola and Oscar Whisky, and Arabella Boy in the Cross Country. still working on the trends for the Byrne and Kim Muir, but beer getting in the way. Good luck tomorrow.
Report Fela Kuti March 14, 2013 7:19 AM GMT

Mar 14, 2013 -- 12:45AM, JOCI Club wrote:


Another decent day today. Three winners, The New One was 100% rated, and a decent price at 6s. Then the machine, Sprinter Sacre at 1/4 and managed to find the winner of the Coral Cup, Medinas at 42/1 on the Tote (however I did back my top 5 rated in that race to spread my risk) and was concentrating on one of my other selections Ericht, when Medinas came from the clouds. Bit unlucky in the RSA as Boston Bob fell when in front at the last, but cannot be too greedy. Tomorrow I like Dynaste, Top of the Range, First Lieutenant, have backed both Reve de Sivola and Oscar Whisky, and Arabella Boy in the Cross Country. still working on the trends for the Byrne and Kim Muir, but beer getting in the way. Good luck tomorrow.


Was looking through this thread yesterday for Medinas race but couldnt see any write up. All I saw was your choices for yesterday where you only mentioned Pendra. Have you got a list of all the ratings for today?

Report wallis March 14, 2013 10:48 AM GMT
hmmm... I dont see mention of The New One (supposedly 100% rated ?) or Medinas - what gives ?


1:30 Godsmejudge @ 11.5-13.5; Hunters Lodge @ 150 Grin
2:05 Pont Alexandre @ 3.25
2:40 Super Duty @ 30; Boston Bob @ 5.3
3:20 Sprinter Sacre @ SP
4:00 Pendra @ 11
4:40 Bordoni @ 14; Zamdy Man @ 23
5:15 Purple Bay @ 44
Report thewrongtrousers March 14, 2013 11:07 AM GMT

Mar 14, 2013 -- 11:48AM, wallis wrote:


hmmm... I dont see mention of The New One (supposedly 100% rated ?) or Medinas - what gives ?1:30 Godsmejudge @ 11.5-13.5; Hunters Lodge @ 150 Grin2:05 Pont Alexandre @ 3.252:40 Super Duty @ 30; Boston Bob @ 5.33:20 Sprinter Sacre @ SP4:00 Pendra @ 114:40 Bordoni @ 14; Zamdy Man @ 235:15 Purple Bay @ 44


I might have it wrong but I was under the impression that the list there were his choices for the race and not the top rated choices which is what he is refering to above. E.g. he has chosen First Lieutenant today rather then Reve de Sivola. Although the ratings list did seem to be missing for that race yesterday.

Come on JOCI pull your finger out and get the last two ratings up for todayGrin

Report JOCI Club March 15, 2013 12:20 AM GMT
No winners on Thursday, and only a second place for First Lieutenant.  The big handicaps had to wait til last minute due to time constraints of going through the large fields, but Medinas came out top rated and was backed on the day. The New One was top rated, but as I had a big fancy for Pont Alexandre, I ended up backing both.  For tomorrow, we have 1:30 Far West 2:05 Undecided 2:40 At Fishers Cross 3:20 Sir Des Champs 4:00 Creevytennant and Salsify 4:40 and 5:15 Undecided. Good luck.
Report JOCI Club March 15, 2013 11:49 AM GMT
1:30 Far West 76%; Our Conor 74% - have backed both

2:05 Edgardo Sol 91%; Kings Lad 91%; Brampour 86%; Abbey Lane 86%; Dan Breen 84%; Ted Veale 84% - backed Edgardo Sol, Kings Lad and Ted Veale

2:40 At Fishers Cross 86%; African Gold 73% - main bet AFC and saver AG

3:20 Sir Des Champs 94%, Long Run 89%, Silviniaco Continue 83% - backed SDC and SC

4:00 Salsify 93%, Divine Intavention 90%' Creevytennant 89% - backed all three

4:40 No trends - Backed Gevrey Chambertain

5:15 Alderwood 78%, Benefficient 77%, His Excellency 76%, Tetlami 70% - backed all four

Good luck on final day.
Report alleged22 March 15, 2013 12:35 PM GMT
ive been waiting for your county evaluation joci

Dan Breen 84% think i,ll side with this old dog Happy
Report Fela Kuti March 15, 2013 4:18 PM GMT
Your picks have done well today. Well done.
Report duffy March 15, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
Very well done, joci, and modest with it, great stuff and hope you won plenty.
Report JOCI Club March 15, 2013 10:41 PM GMT
Thanks. After a blank day Thursday (for some reason, usually a bad day for me), today was much better, with another five winners, making it my most successful Festival ever for winners.

The following obliged for me today:

Our Connor @ 5
Ted Veale @ 11.5
At Fishers Cross @ prices between 4.1 & 6.2
Salsify @ 3.85
Alderwood @ 6.8

I didn't actually benefit from the following, but the trends also pointed out:

(1) Far West & Our Connor as two top rated (finished 2nd / 1st)
(2) At Fishers Cross & African Gold as two top rated (finished 1st / 2nd)
(3) Salsify & Divine Intavention as two top rated (finished 1st / 2nd with exacta paying over 200)

Just missed out on the Placepot, with Gevrey Chambertain (in a non trends race) letting me down.

So, that made a total of 14 winners for the week (6,3,0,5), which far surpassed anything I've ever managed before.

The trends came up trumps this year!
Report Tucho March 16, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
that is an incredible return, well played

must be very satisfying piling hours into it and getting results like that
Report JOCI Club March 16, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
Was pleased it all worked out in the end, but realise it could so easily go the other way (as it did on Thursday). Another thing that was reinforced in my mind is that the trends can / should be used to narrow down the field to a manageable set of horses that are the most likely winners, then instinct and form study (especially keeping an eye on collateral form from horses that run well during the festival) shoould be used in the final selection process.

I missed Bobs Worth this week, despire everything suggesting he would run a very big race, especially his incredible record around the course. However, I deserted him, due to a number of factors like lack of recent run, relative inexperience, and lack of grade one win this season. That came back to bite me, so maybe need to be a bit more flexible in future.

One pleasing thing is that trend analysis often comes up with market leaders as selections (for obvious reasons), but it can also put you on to some less obvious, big price runners that have the capacity to perform well, but which the market might have overlooked e.g. Medinas, Golden Chieftain, Divine Intavention and others.

Will now have a bash at some of the key Aintree races using the same methodology, and see how it works out.

If anyone would like to see copies of the final spreadsheet for each day, drop me a message and I can forward you on copies.
Report princealbert March 16, 2013 10:23 AM GMT
great work joci,was fun reading through the thread all week and im glad yer hard work payed off
Report sean rua March 16, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
Excellent work, Joci, well done!
Report King Selassie I March 16, 2013 1:38 PM GMT
Brilliant Joci. A lot of work put into this year. I'm not usually a trends man but you cant knock it. Good luck with Aintree. Also good to see people helping others to beat the 'enemy'.
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