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more twists to come from this outfit methinks !
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He totally let it slip when rambling and journalist didn't call him on it. Lame post race and it explains why he was late back in this season. Crazy bullish on Binocular and doesn't even talk 1 bit about Grandouet.
Video on sportinglife.com Hate this outfit, dodgiest group there is. |
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if old Bino wins the champion Im giving up the game
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Backed him last year and McCoy rode it like it was Pegasus picking up his Racing Post at the start. Wouldn't back it the year it won because of Henderson's shennanigans. I've got the rope ready and a sturdy tree picked out if this rancid outfit does me again this year.
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no need to worry about him this year as his turn has past,put a line through him folks.
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Whilst I'm inclined to agree I don't see how you can be so confident in that prediction.
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Big, big player on decent ground.
Wherever the Fly finishes, I bet Binocular will be within three or four lengths, and... on goodish ground, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is in front. |
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Yep,hes a player if ground suits,like it or not.
Normally at his best on his 2nd run of the season. |
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Binocular 2m hrdles form off greater than 60 day break reads
1353423 With that win being at odds of 1/9 Form off less than 60 day break 1211311113114 1 - 2 length 2nd in Supreme as 4yo 2 - 1 length 3rd to Go Native at Kempton 3 - 3rd to Fly when forced to make the running at Punchestown 4 - 4th in Champion Hurdle - where he was lame post race Hendo even said he'll do a gallop not this sat with the rest of the team but the following sat. He needs to be busy not fresh. Big player. Simple as that, added e/w 14/1 to my e/w 33/1 |
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Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole personally even in light of this ''Lame'' news.
Phucking atrocious this comes to light now though as I wondered why he ran below expectations last year, particularly after his Kingwell win when connections were raving about him being back to his best. |
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Hmmm lame....i don't think so. Well, he wasn't during the race to me, so any lameness would have come from hitting the last, and the adrenaline would have got him through the race no problem. I think it was a case of getting as many reasons as possible to keep MTOY in the supreme.
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Aye sint, vile outfit. Found out Long Run was wrong after the Paddy Power in 2010 5 months later from Mick Fitz on atr preview.
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would be a little uncomfortable if i had backed bobs or grandouet after them missing their preps ........
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I wouldn't be too worried. If they were hard to get ready they would have ran.
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CV totally agree with you that Binocular is the forgotten horse and I am on at big odds...laid some off now so a free bet for me. My worry will be the ground against others that will handle it better then he does.
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Agree Foyles, 1 run for both this season and neither are very experienced either. Lack of prep run is also lack of mental sharpness which is often overlooked.
Record of well fancied horses going from Bula to Champion Hurdle is bleak reading. 4 horses went strait there in last 5 years were fav or 2nd fav and beaten. Slightly less concern for Bobs Worth though as staying chasers are good fresh off a break. But lack of experience is the worry with him. Shakespear, if Binocular was lame post race last year then he can run better this term, how much is debateable, but given overturn is not here he's placed on last years form. Overpriced anyway. |
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Binocular is one of those horses,that imo, you never know what you are going to get.
So when hes a big price for a race,he has to be backed. |
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All this optimism overlooks the fact he is another year older and even if he does bounce back his current level of ability may be way short of what is required to win or even place in a Champion.
My ideal scenario would be Cotton Mill winning with Binocular trailing around at the back with Hurricane Fly. The look on Henderson's face would be priceless. |
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"My ideal scenario would be Cotton Mill winning with Binocular trailing around at the back with Hurricane Fly. The look on Henderson's face would be priceless."
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He is one hell of a big PLACE lay for me ,he is nowhere near the horse he was that last run behind the fly was just to get a vibe for Darlan ,AP would never have got off Darlan to ride Binocular
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"AP would never have got off Darlan to ride Binocular"
I agree with you there but I still think if the ground suits Binocular and he turns up in the right frame of mind and if this year AP remembers there are other horses in the race other than The Fly then he has a good chance. Just my opinion. Not long to wait now to find out. |
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I love Binocular but even my wife laughed when I suggested he might win again this year (I backed him e/w nrfb mainly for the place part). Sadly I feel his best days are over.
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joondalup
joondalup 20 Feb 13 19:16 Joined: 29 Nov 06 | Topic/replies: 175 | Blogger: joondalup's blog He is one hell of a big PLACE lay for me ,he is nowhere near the horse he was that last run behind the fly was just to get a vibe for Darlan ,AP would never have got off Darlan to ride Binocular I might be on my own but when Darlan won at xmas i did not get the feeling AP had made his mind up, not got the technique of Binocular rings a bell, we will never know now. According to some Bino getting long in the tooth, funny, i thought he was the same age as the favourite ![]() |
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hOW THE fLY CAN BE 7-4 IS BEYOND ME 6-1 PRE SEASON AND BEAT SAME OLD HORSES
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He's that price because the Irish keep harping on about it, and are continuing to do so in the previews. Patrick Mullins is adamant. It's a pitty nobody asks him why when HF won the champion hurdle, the time was slow by 2.7 seconds, whilst ROR was fast by 0.9s. Willie Mullins always claims HF has to be 100% to go there, yet the excuses are out. Whatever they're saying, the time doesn't lie and he's 7/4 despite being 9, and he possibly ran as good a race last season as he did the year before. Good luck to them if they think his 3 rivals aren't better than Peddlers Cross.
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Giddy up
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its a pitty you cant spell!!
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forget about the times lol, every race is run differently.
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As is the going.
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how can you crib what the fly has done since leaving france only 5 horses have finished in front of him and that is in 2 races 2 of them champion hurdle winners and last year he still had bino,zarkanda and oscrs well be hind him ,11 odd wins can ROR ,BINO OR ZARK MATCH THAT NO.
he will do for me although i held vouchers on Darlan i am now back with the FLY |
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ZARKANDAR wins this doing handstands imo, will take it up 4 out before everything else starts to race, or will wait until everything starts to race then try and pick them off, but either way, will take a very good one to get by this fellow if they take it up early! Different horse to last season when he was reportedly not right, different gravy this
. He is my jackpot for day one and im very confident.Hurricane Fly Horses don't regain championship races very often, 2 or 3 in last hundred years is it? So thats the fly out and will be laying my win part of my bet at 11/2 off in coming weeks if he stays sub 3 antepost, think he can place, but not the win. Grandouet without a prep is also a worry, though have backed, and probably only hoping for a place at best now. Binocular wont be winning at the age of 9, like the fly is a previous winner of this race, although previous winners can run well in the same races year on year out they dont win. On at 25/1, again hoping for a place at best. Rock on Ruby has an outstanding chance this year of retaining the crown, every run this season for me he has been way under cooked. Reportedly to be having a racecourse gallop sometime next week to bring him spot on for this, on at 10/1 happy with that! Cinders and Ashes On at 20s, this one could surprise a few, i still think he has not been right this season basically allowing to the fact he has never had his ground of good/soft and never ran in a race with a fast pace. Till now. Dun dun dun ![]() |
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I'm with ya
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Just list the horses you haven't backed STS
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OH HO HO HO
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shut up shut up shut up *sticks fingers in ears and goes 'la la la la'.
I always back bino when he loses and don't when he wins. I've not backed him so get your mortgages out |
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Are you going to claim you backed the winner just because you backed every horse in the race?
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Zarkandar for me this year
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Jimmy,the more i think about it,the more i think you could well be right.
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ruby,s got it wrong before denman/kauto sam winner/zarkandar are two they spring out
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