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I just think its sad we will be denied the chance to see this horse at Cheltenham again. I have no ante post money on him for any race, but always felt he would be suited by the Ryanair. This race doesn't hold the prestige of the other two but surely its all about the distance and 2.5miles seems perfect.
His run on Saturday didn't appear lacklustre. Often when horses are subsequently found to have respiratory infections it is after a run too bad to be true, but if the connections have found some evidence of lung infection then fair enough, (I take back my previous post). DECALEC fwiw its 'veterinary' and yes I am. |
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Flemenstar wasn't himself because he was doing something foreign to him,how could he get into a nice jumping rythmn after being reigned back throughout the race.I think despite this,he showed what a brilliant horse he is.
Just sick of hearing excuses,if he had tailed off then fine.had all this excuse rubbish with Grands Crus for the last twelve months. |
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Personally think the best gold cup trial we've seen this season is the Denman chase, that Tom George horse sent them on a blistering gallop. No hiding places and Conti who wasn't even fully fit still made light work of it.
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I agree think conti should be fav.
Form looks solid. Would prefer sir des champ but think conti is solid. In my book bobs worth still has something to prove - 1 win in handicap |
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Love the way he jumps Brooksielad .Not overly flashy, just pops away in a great rhythm ,gets the job done without touching a twig. Ruby on board always a big plus also.
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Brooksielad.
Was a few laps of honour.Giant Bolster got smashed by Burton port and Long Run in last years Denman Chase,then look what happened in the gold cup |
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Now I'm no vet, but I would have thought that it would have been nigh on impossible to perform the way he did with a lung infection....I assume that the horse needed to breathe during the race didn't he.
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OUT of Cheltenham 2013
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Thats that then.
See what happens with him later in the year i guess. |
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It's a pitty thsi horse will never quite reach those big heights, but that's what happens when it's not managed properly. Duffy, i'd imagine you're right. He was finishing better than he was over the festive period. There is nothing wrong with him.
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I've got a lung infection just now myself and can barely walk up the stairs, and I certainly wouldn't be able to take a pull just before getting to the top.
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At least you haven't entered yourself for the Aintree stair climbing contest, know that the participants of the Cheltenham stair climbing stakes might not be at their optimum. If you contemplated that, i would hope that the champion cheltenham stair climber forgot about Aintree.
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DECALEC fwiw its 'veterinary' and yes I am.
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You couldn't be trusted to put a spider in a jar you fool
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13 Feb 13 17:27 Joined: 28 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 8,176 | Blogger: duffy's blog I've got a lung infection just now myself and can barely walk up the stairs, and I certainly wouldn't be able to take a pull just before getting to the top.NO MORE SINGING FROM YOU FOR A WHILE THEN  |
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coughing like a good un now I am...fecking kills to take a deep breathe....raw as fook, my chest feels, incidentally...."Our vet Paddy Kelly, sounds like the first line of a joke.
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GIVE HIM A RING AM SURE HE HAS A PILL FOR EVERY ILL,WELL SHUD KNOW HOW TO TREAT UR CONDITION
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By: This user is online. duffy
Date Joined: 28 Mar 03 Add contact | Send message When: 12 Feb 13 21:56 Joined: Date Joined: 28 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 8,179 | Blogger: duffy's blog Now I'm no vet, but I would have thought that it would have been nigh on impossible to perform the way he did with a lung infection....I assume that the horse needed to breathe during the race didn't he. have you never thought feck me i dont feel right and then the next day your ill, then its doctors antibiotics all that crap, if only horses could talk hey? |
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I have, and the moment you don't feel right, is the moment the performance goes...not the next day...does for me anyhow!
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His performance didn't go, he ran as well as he ever has over the trip.
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adrenaline
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infact from my experience they will try even harder, even when ill, probably the reason why he,ll be put away now and i don,t blame them
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In all seriousness, I get the trying even harder bit, but we're talking about a lung infection, an illness that surely couldn't fail to have a debilitating effect on its victim, a niggle in the back, a twinge here or there,maybe, but the breathing apparatus knackered by inflammation and such like....to perform with no sign of a problem whilst the lungs are being put through their absolute toughest test and at the end of the race actually take his jockey into the lead!!!!
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for all we know he could be really sick now,, folk dont make stuff up to please folk on forums
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No-one thinks they do, out of interest alleged, would it be fair to say that you think he stays 3 miles then.?
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i do yes and think that will be the campaign next year,
wrong tactics in the lexus, sick horse in the henessey gotta be given another chance imo |
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fair enough, whatever happens with him, I hope it's successful because he's my fav. horse...had always hoped to see him gunning from the front in the queen mum and genuinely thought he had a real chance in it.
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He has proved he stays 3 mile.No disgrace in getting beat by SDC
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Am i the only person around yet to be convinced about SDC?
Flemenstar has outclassed him every time hes run against him,and even the other day he could possibly have beat him with a better ride,and Flemenstar it seems werent right!!well according to those close to him he werent. Its obvious Flemenstar aint a strong stayer as well. It aint obvious to me that SDC is a Gold Cup Winner. |
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Bud.
He got the lot on his CV,no question marks over him,unlike most runners in the GC line up |
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Well i can see why hes a contender,but every time i watch him i just aint all that impressed to be honest.
When i watch Bobsworth i am,its just gut feeling i guess. Had the Lexus been over 3m2 i think Tidal Bay would have romped it,and he aint considered good enough to take part,or at least his trainer thinks he cannot beat SC. Its dangerous to dismiss horses,but im going with Bob and SC to fight it out. |
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That's fair enough Budd, you can't pick them all!
For me it's between SDC & BW with SDC winning. I think Conti may get found out over the trip while Long Run will be staying on but may be doing so from too far back. Just hope they all make it now. SDC was staying on well in the Lexus as well no? |
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He was staying better than FL and Flem,but i have my doubts about them as true stayers anyway.
Tidal Bay stays a lot further and he was finishing the best,i think he would have gone away from SDC the last 2 furlongs. Cant prove it i know,its just my thoughts based on watching the 2 in their races. |
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I've never even considered SDC at all, beating champion court in a jewson is millions of miles away from winning a gold cup....he's just been a hype machine.
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Budd .
SDC was tanking at the end,Tidal was not pulling away from him,could argue another 2 furlongs and SDC nails Tidal |
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not really Jasey, Tidal Bay went from 2 lengths down to half a length up in a matter of strides, as soon as Ruby got there the horse stopped. Would never of got nailed if the race wasn't over.
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Matter of opinion,not fact
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yep,i said it was just my thoughts.
I do respect others as well. |
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Interesting people think the longer trip will find Conti out as it was his last performance that persuaded me he would stay, especially if it's gd/sft.
Do you not think The Giant Bolster possibly went off too fast at Newbury last year given all the horses nealy broke the track record? |