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wellchief
12 Jan 13 14:35
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I thought I'd start this thread for anyone who gets quotes off bookies for long term bets for Cheltenham / National Hunt races.  If you can put them here when you get the quote we can keep them all in the one place.

I tend to email bookies around this time of year, for one or two fun bets for next year.  I tend to focus on the current year's novices that I rate very highly and I think they can progress on to bigger and better things next year.  There's also those that are currently good hurdlers that look like they might have a chasing career, you normally get good prices for the Arkle and RSA.

I got the inspiration from Masterminded and Alvarado (I think) who were on Sprinter at big prices for his Arkle win, because they'd backed him before the Supreme.

Prices available for next year:

Simonsig: 10/1 King George
Simonsig: 20/1 Gold Cup
Grandouet: 33/1 Arkle
Oscar Whisky: 16/1 Arkle
Oscar Whisky: 16/1 Jewson

The thread is only a bit of fun, because you'd never go in big on a race 15 months away, but it's nice knowing you might have some tasty prices if you can second guess trainers plans.

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By:
Mr Eboue
When: 12 Jan 13 16:03
That 10/1 on Simonsig will be 9/4 when he scoots in at Cheltenham.
By:
BJG
When: 12 Jan 13 17:09
Who is the 10/1 with plz? link
By:
wellchief
When: 12 Jan 13 17:29
B365 mate.

You have to email them for a price because they're not available on their site.  I had to take 8's with Paddy Power because 365 wouldn't give me a price, but when one of my mates emailled them (nostaw_01 on here) they offered him 10's.

All the others I asked (VC, Laddies, Hills and Stan James) wouldn't give me a price.
By:
wellchief
When: 12 Jan 13 17:43
365 just offered me 10/1 for Oscar Whisky for the Arkle and Jewson.

FYI, the 16's above is with Paddy Power for those who may be interested.
By:
Far From Trouble
When: 12 Jan 13 18:36
Oscar Whisky wont be winning the Arkle or Jewson mate

Oscars Well has a squeak though Silly
By:
Far From Trouble
When: 12 Jan 13 18:36
Idiot, just realised it's next year ffs Laugh
By:
wellchief
When: 12 Jan 13 22:48
The New One: 25/1 RSA

Cheers Duffy Excited

FFT, no worries; I don't think Oscar Whsiky or Oscars Well will be winning either this year Wink
By:
Smart Predator
When: 12 Jan 13 22:59
I would love a price on Simonsig for the KG and the GC. As long as Sprinter is still around simonsig will be stepped up to 3m 3m2. I bet they aint ballsy enough to price him up as a special bet.
By:
wellchief
When: 12 Jan 13 23:27
Those are actual prices on Simonsig above Smart Predator.

Just need to email 365 for the 10's and Paddy Power for the Gold Cup and they'll give you those prices.

None of them will ever be on their sites. only way to get them is to email and ask for a price.

I should charge a fee for this service!
By:
duffy
When: 12 Jan 13 23:27
Only just noticed this thread, WC, I thought I'd follow your lead and e-mail them about him....i've also tried PP as you advised and am waiting to see what they say.Happy
By:
johntucker
When: 13 Jan 13 00:28
PP are good in my experience with providing a quote via email. Slightly off topic but they gave me 33/1 on Dawn Approach 2,000g/Derby last Autumn.
By:
Brooksielad
When: 13 Jan 13 10:34
I've emailed PP,Bet365 for a quote on My Tent Or Yours for the 2014 Champion Hurdle.

Prices given:

Paddy Power 25/1

Bet365 33/1

I'm waiting on an email from Ladbrokes, think they may give me a bigger price because they have been stand out about the horse for a while.
By:
alleged22
When: 13 Jan 13 11:39
im thinking next years king george and gold cup will be the battle of the greys al ferof v/s simonsig

quite like that 25-1 about the new one winning next years rsa
By:
Smart Predator
When: 13 Jan 13 12:47
Sorry WellChief I meant a double on the KG & GC. I just got an email back from B365 and they quote 50/1 to win both races.
By:
roobuck
When: 13 Jan 13 12:56
Is it just me, or does that actually seem a decent price for a fun bet?
By:
Brooksielad
When: 13 Jan 13 13:17
yeah 50/1 is more than fair if you believe he will step up, lots of other factors though. If Sprinter gets injured they could drop him to two miles. etc
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 14 Jan 13 20:45
Wheres the Grandouet price from mate?
By:
wellchief
When: 14 Jan 13 20:57
Was from Paddy Power mate.

Also, if anyone is interested in the next King George, all prices are now on Paddy's website, so no need to email them.

http://www.paddypower.com/racing/future-racing/king-george-vi--chase

They offered me 8/1 on Simonsig, but now priced up as 10's.  I reckon they read this forum and see 365 went 10's and copied them Wink
By:
wellchief
When: 14 Jan 13 20:59
2013 King George (Paddy Power)

Long Run   7/1
Simonsig   10/1
Dynaste   10/1
Flemenstar   16/1
Sir Des Champs   16/1
Champion Court   25/1
Captain Chris   25/1
By:
Brooksielad
When: 14 Jan 13 22:40
what price Conti when he wins the GC
By:
gutfeeling
When: 15 Jan 13 00:55
Got this back from Paddy Power this evening,Threw a few in to see how far they'd be willing to go.

Thank you for contacting Paddy Power customer support. I can confirm prices for the selections you have requested as follows:

Cheltenham 2014

Sizing Rio-Arkle – 25/1
Road to Riches-RSA – 25/1
Simonsig-Gold Cup – 16/1
Wonderful Charm-Ryanair Chase – 25/1
Oscars Well-Ryanair Chase – 16/1

I'll be having a bit of Sizing Rio and Simonsig just for fun.
By:
Masterminded
When: 15 Jan 13 01:16
Very good thread WC. I've actually taken a bit of the 10s Simonsig for the KG long way away but can see that price tumbling in a couple of months. I've just requested a price for a nice Arkle prospect will post it up when I get a reply.
By:
Flemenstar
When: 15 Jan 13 02:46
I'd be very interested in Wonderful Charm for the RSA. They are touting him as an outside chance for WH this year so must get 3m
By:
stevo1
When: 15 Jan 13 03:12
Wonderful Charm big price on here for World Hurdle.
By:
wellchief
When: 15 Jan 13 17:21
Gutfeeling, I also think that Sizing Rio will be a monster over fences next year.

My only worry is I think they may go down the Jewson route, as they did with Loosen My Load.
By:
Masterminded
When: 16 Jan 13 11:42
Un Atout Arkle 33/1 2014
By:
Masterminded
When: 16 Jan 13 11:46
Wonderful Charm is a class act I think. Could easily be another for next years Arkle
By:
Sergei_Rebrofl
When: 17 Jan 13 12:31
As I mentioned somewhere else, wonderful charm does seem a very generous price, even if he is a young one. Wherever he goes ill be following strongly next year, should be right in the arkle mix
By:
Brooksielad
When: 17 Jan 13 21:10
Finally Ladbrokes got back to me with a quote for mytentoryours. I've been quoted for the supreme and champion hurdle double 100/1.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 20 Jan 13 13:02
MM.... If you fin me asking, who u you get the 33/1 for Un Atout in the Arkle next year? Looks a cracking bet.
By:
Masterminded
When: 21 Jan 13 14:31
It was with Paddy Power CCM. Hopefully it will turn out to be a good bet but he has a long way to go. I couldn't be any more impressed with him so far though and looks a chaser in the making. I have a feeling the festival may come a year too soon as far as the Supreme goes but after backing him in that race I thought it may be wise to have a small bet on him for the Arkle.
By:
Senor El Betrutti
When: 21 Jan 13 16:23
two more for you: Coneygree 25/1 for the 2014 RSA & Rocky Creek 33/1 for the 2014 Gold Cup.
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 21 Jan 13 17:34
Rocky Creek is a future Grand National winner imo
By:
Senor El Betrutti
When: 21 Jan 13 17:42
I backed him for the RSA and after reading Nicholls thinking about missing Cheltenham this year like they did with Conti and go for the Hennessy I thought I would see what I could get for the Gold Cup. I don't think 33/1 is very generous but I thought I would let people know what is available.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 21 Jan 13 21:38
Cheers MM.
By:
tomdeane
When: 21 Jan 13 22:07
These all seem very hit and miss to me (as you'd probably expect).

33/1 Rocky Creek is bordering on ridiculous. If he was to run in the RSA he'd probably be a 9 or 10-1 chance and if he won by a distance you could get 5 or 6-1 for the Gold Cup.

On the other hand, My Tent Or Yours could win the Betfair, go off at 4-1 for the Supreme, and if he won that as well he would be a lot less than 20s for the Champion, which makes that 100-1 potentially good value.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 22 Jan 13 12:40
What is Boston Bob 2014 Gold Cup?
By:
liam the lips
When: 22 Jan 13 15:02
Great idea idea for a thread wc Silly
By:
liam the lips
When: 22 Jan 13 15:02
Great idea idea for a thread wc Silly
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