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How can you have an ante post bet with any confidence these days?

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By:
roobuck
When: 20 Nov 12 10:08
Yeah but where is BB 6/4?

Another option is to perhaps double up with other AP bets as well as those singles. If you are that positive about BB its a way of significantly increasing your price.

He comes out in less than 2 weeks, not long before the price will be odds on. 6/4 up to the festival is highly unlikely imo
By:
zilzal1
When: 20 Nov 12 11:43
There is going to come a time when he isnt going to show up and/or father time will catch up with him, he's actually been better value on or near the day when you think about the time lag between now and March!!

Besides, having not been to four weddings i dont fancy a short price about a possible funereal Mischief
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 20 Nov 12 11:48
Zilzal is correct.
I'd rather take 4/6 on the day when he's fit and healthy as opposed to 11/10 now when anything could happen.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Nov 12 11:56
Dunno how anyone can get their rocks off about an ante-post bet on Big Bucks.

"Oh 6/4 is such good value". Well party on my wayward son and each to their own, but if I'm getting stuck into something this far ante-post I want to dream the dream of winning big for (relatively) little outlay.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 13:02
6/4 is huge value imo .
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Nov 12 13:47
Like I said, each to their own.

Dismiss it as vulgar if you like but how much would you have on or stand to win at that price?
By:
sageform
When: 20 Nov 12 16:55
You are trying to land a treble if you bet now.
1. The horse will be fit to run in March.
2. They target the right race (I agree that it is very unlikely that Big Bucks will ever run in anything but the Stayers but you never know for sure) If he is the only viable Gold Cup horse in the yard they might be tempted. I happen to think he would beat the current lot on the bridle over fences but that is a personal opinion.
3. That he beats the opposition on the day.
So if the odds are 4/6, 1/10 and 1/3, you get combined odds of 1.45/1 or 6/4 after deductions. No great value is there?
By:
buddeliea
When: 20 Nov 12 17:00
6/4 huge value in November?

Not for me.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 18:07
i wouldn't dismiis anything as vulgar Roger each to their own Grin but Buckster is a better 6/4 shot than United for the league imo.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 18:08
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You are trying to land a treble if you bet now.
1. The horse will be fit to run in March. (1/20)
2. They target the right race (1/1000) (I agree that it is very unlikely that Big Bucks will ever run in anything but the Stayers but you never know for sure) If he is the only viable Gold Cup horse in the yard they might be tempted. I happen to think he would beat the current lot on the bridle over fences but that is a personal opinion.
3. That he beats the opposition on the day. (1/5)
So if the odds are 4/6, 1/10 and 1/3, you get combined odds of 1.45/1 or 6/4 after deductions. No great value is there?


1/10 the world hurdle is the target make that 1/1000 Grin
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 18:10
unless we learn that he hasn't got bollx and he runs in the mares Laugh
By:
sageform
When: 20 Nov 12 18:48
OK you can challenge my individual odds, but the true odds of him winning the race if he makes the start line are about 2/5 or 1/3 if you take 6/4 now. He was 10/11 on the day last year don't forget. The most common time for a horse to get leg problems is at the start of a new season so wait at least until he has run at Newbury.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 18:53
yes and theres a huge difference between 10-11 and 6-4!!!!
By:
buddeliea
When: 20 Nov 12 18:55
yeh,best part of 4 months.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 19:11
balls deep buddeliea i am Mischief
By:
buddeliea
When: 20 Nov 12 19:14
Really?
well hes pretty reliable,i mean he turns up in march year after year,and whens he ever been injured??

4 months though mate!!
By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 12 19:17
agreed. As slippy blue says on the chit chat forum 'i love the buzz' Laugh
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Nov 12 20:31
My point exactly!

I love the buzz (of ante-post betting). I just can't get horned up about 6/4, but fair fks to anyone who can and who has the wallet to make 4 months of tension worthwhile.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 20 Nov 12 20:43
as i said in my post roger its not my kind of bet as i dont get involved with short prices, i tend to try to  2nd guess what connections may have in mind and try to find big priced ante post selections  who i think have a decent chance of contesting big races months before the event ! but some punters do like the shorter priced " sexy horses" and big bucks is a good example of that type of bet.
By:
buddeliea
When: 21 Nov 12 07:40
yeh to me antepost is all about trying to get nice prices about horses that will end up a lot shorter on the day,and trying to 2nd guess trainers,which is never easy,but fun.
you always win some and lose some,but i do it every year and always seems worth it come March.
Normally it involves horses at least in double figures,some treble on the odd occasion,but never as short as 6/4!!
Each to their own though of course.
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 21 Nov 12 10:51
The Thursday in particular has some bad races nowadays
By:
Howdi
When: 21 Nov 12 20:12
exactly budd i can see Bucks 1/3 on the day
By:
tweedledumbtweedletwat
When: 21 Nov 12 20:21
no chance of bb 1/3
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 21 Nov 12 20:23
as i say lads not my kind of bet but the opposition is looking thin on the ground voler la v hardly enhanced her claims  the other day ,oscar whiskey a likely  nonner wher is the competition ?
By:
Howdi
When: 21 Nov 12 20:25
1/3 on the day opposition awful.
By:
tweedledumbtweedletwat
When: 21 Nov 12 20:26
il bet you a drink of your choice on the day....its the same every year
By:
buddeliea
When: 22 Nov 12 08:00
yeh i agree,he turns up hes the shortest prive hes ever been for the race,it looks dire at the moment.

Wont bother at all with the race is my thinking right now,give me more time to concentrate on other more interesting races.
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