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Glossy
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All snippets and thoughts in relation to any of the 3 days to go here.

I've got tickets for the Friday and Saturday - can't wait as this is one of my favourite meets of the year.

It looks as though we won't be seeing Cue Card in the main event. Any ideas on early fancies?

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By:
strontium
When: 23 Oct 12 22:30
Just to note for those that may have missed it, there's a good thread on the feature race running on the Antepost board.
By:
Glossy
When: 23 Oct 12 22:37
Cheers stront, hadn't seen that. Best keep this as discussion on the meet as a whole then.
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 15 Nov 12 10:20
Dynaste is starting off very highly tomorrow, taking on Fingal Bay in the big novice chase. The novice hurdle looks a good race as well, as does the 2m handicap. Good card tomorrow
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 15 Nov 12 10:41
Decs been made yet?
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 15 Nov 12 11:31
Yep
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 15 Nov 12 11:37
First race is a cracker - hard to imagine a more competitive 5 runner novice chase!

Novice hurdle looks a decent race too.

The rest of it doesn't fill me with huge excitement.
By:
strontium
When: 15 Nov 12 12:31
I agree with you FF, though I'd go further and say the novice hurdle also looks a belter.

At least the rest of the card looks competetive, if not inspiring.

Any experts want to tell me what will win the XC?
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 15 Nov 12 13:33
I believe AP is riding Its a Gimme! Amazed at that tbh, even if it is because they will put a claimer on darlan.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 15 Nov 12 13:35
Forget that... still deciding. I misread my text!
By:
strontium
When: 15 Nov 12 13:42
IAG was very impressive at Ascot last weekend and is a few pounds well in now. I don't buy all the Darlan hype.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 15 Nov 12 13:44
I'm unsure to be honest stront. I think Darlan is potentially top class and I definitely think he's better than Its a Gimme. But 11lb's isnt to be sniffed at.

To be honest, Im really surprised this is the plan with IAG. Thought he'd have a few quiet runs to get himself a nice mark for a race for the festival.
By:
strontium
When: 15 Nov 12 13:53
Darlan might be top class but the signs are very bad for the Supreme form so far and Darlan looks worse at Cheltenham than elsewhere to me. He really struggled at the December meeting last year, though tbf he must have improved radically to come second in the Supreme. 5/2 looks way too short in a race with some good handicappers and some unexposed/progressive types off low weights.
By:
liam the lips
When: 15 Nov 12 14:04
Hi CCM - do you know what the reason for Cash and Go's bad scope was after the Deloitte ?
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 15 Nov 12 14:06
Thats a very fair point about him at Chelts. He has certainly looked better suited to flat tracks.

I dont see that much strength in depth myself. I think its too early to write the Supreme off yet, and I think it will end up being decent form. Not vintage but good enough for him to go close in this field.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 15 Nov 12 14:09
Hi Liam. yes it was just some mucus, nothing major.
By:
liam the lips
When: 15 Nov 12 14:17
Cheers CCM
By:
judorick
When: 15 Nov 12 14:18
definitely think the handicap hurdle is far more competitive than many think, plenty unexposed and the Irish are difficult to assess

extremely tricky race and I can see it being similar to last year with a whole bunch in contention jumping 2 out and a massive charge to the line where some luck will be required (like Moon Dice last year got stopped up the rail and had to switch, lost many lengths)

tough race really
By:
liam the lips
When: 15 Nov 12 14:25
I'l be in the Plaisterers (winchcombe) around 10.30 sampling some of the finest black stuff this country has to offer (certainly better than the shyte they serve on track) ! Tongue Out
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 15 Nov 12 15:35
Don't forget it's on C4 on each of the 3 days Happy

I'm really hoping Grands Crus wins the PP GC. If he can't manage it then I'm hoping my fave mare of the moment  Nadiya De La Vega can win.

I'm so excited. I love this meeting Grin
By:
judorick
When: 15 Nov 12 15:52
hi Sue

surely you will be cheering on AP won't you?

I will be looking at Ruby and BG
By:
Slabster
When: 15 Nov 12 15:56
Uncle J wins X country Cool
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 15 Nov 12 16:16
"surely you will be cheering on AP won't you?"

Hi Rick,

I adore Grands Crus Love and love it when the Pipe's win this race.
Has David Pipe won it yet? I'm sure he must have done, I can't remember Confused

I'm hoping AP is going to ride NDLV. Do we know yet?

I hope you have a great 3 days. I'll be here for the duration Happy
By:
wellchief
When: 15 Nov 12 18:46
Maybe this is the time to catch Kid Cassidy after his...er..."effort" last time at Aintree.
By:
resner not lesnar
When: 15 Nov 12 19:27
Makybe, Great Endeavour won it for David last year. I'm very hopeful Grands Crus will do the job this time round. Not the best price but potentially very well in if you still believe in him like I do. I've backed him for this and the KG so fingers crossed he's back to his best.
By:
judorick
When: 15 Nov 12 19:30
she doesn't bet Resnar, she's just soppy for horses Happy
By:
Glossy
When: 15 Nov 12 21:00
Can't for the life of me see how Dynaste's price is just a couple of ticks higher than that of Fingal Bay. Think some see that it's one of Pipe's and a grey at that; and start making lazy comparisons with Grand Crus when the 2 horses form in staying hurdles is not really comparable. On his first time over fences, couldn't back him at that price in a million years.

I know there was some debate about how impressive Fingal Bay was on his chasing bow but I was very taken by his jumping and fully expect him to win this race fairly comfortably, though just doing enough; as is the Fingal way Happy
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 15 Nov 12 21:04
Agree 100%. Anybody backing Dynaste at 15/8 needs therapy.
By:
judorick
When: 15 Nov 12 21:18
could be worth laying in the place market then fellas at around 1.5

seem to remember he is a hard puller and that won't help round there on chase debut
By:
GoldCupWinner
When: 15 Nov 12 22:03
Tiger o'toole didn't exactly frank the form NTO for Fingal Bay. I'd take a chance on the Nicholls horse at the prices.
By:
Glossy
When: 15 Nov 12 22:09
Wouldn't worry too much about the form not being franked. Fingal isn't the type to dish out massive beatings. Just does enough to win.
By:
GoldCupWinner
When: 15 Nov 12 22:16
did the Nicholls horse only jump 4 fences LTO or did they jump 10/16? Bit of a farce of a race if they only jumped 4!
By:
GoldCupWinner
When: 15 Nov 12 23:11
2.35 looks a fascinating race. One horse I think is a tad short is run with the wind. Favourite sets a decent standard but very interested to see how Tominator gets on given he gave weight and a beating to triumph winner o the flat.
By:
judorick
When: 15 Nov 12 23:14
in the amateur riders, Venetia runs Pentific with Will Biddick riding

if he can reproduce his effort at Doncaster a few runs ago he can go close, 12.5 looks good enough for a back to lay
By:
harry callaghan
When: 16 Nov 12 00:15
interesting the negativity on here about dynaste looked to always be a chaser in the making to me...i can see him destroying these if getting into a rhythm on the easy lead and also getting 5lbs off of fingal bay who wasn't impressive first time up but is obviously entitled to improve and is respected...
By:
cufcno1
When: 16 Nov 12 00:20
its a gimme wasnt that far off the best in novice hurdles last year,would have went very close at aintree but for bad mistake,thrown in on sunday and will only get better over a trip!
By:
judorick
When: 16 Nov 12 01:01
'thrown in' is a bit strong seeing he was beaten off 5lb lower last time out
By:
roobuck
When: 16 Nov 12 07:03
Agree re Pentiffic judo.

Close House in whichever race he goes for
By:
Augustine
When: 16 Nov 12 09:03
"Can't for the life of me see how Dynaste's price is just a couple of ticks higher than that of Fingal Bay."

"Agree 100%. Anybody backing Dynaste at 15/8 needs therapy."

There's a perfectly good case to be made for backing Dynaste today without making "lazy comparisons with Grands Crus" - rated 13lbs better than the fav over hurdles, receives 5lbs today, goes well fresh, trainer tends to target this meeting, the form of Fingal Bay's chase win let down since - and insulting his backers as in need of therapy is a bit much. FB might win but he's a short-priced fav to do so.
By:
GoldCupWinner
When: 16 Nov 12 09:44
I think Dynaste is rated too high over hurdles due to running against Big Bucks. Should be closer to 150. That being said I wouldn't be writing this horse off as the favourite still has it to prove over fences.
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