Peddlers Cross, backers livid!

Clueless McCain has ruined the Horse,will do well to ever win another Grade 1,
if i was the owner,i'd remove pc from his yard with immediate effect

mccain should be hung. absolute ****

Will be interesting to hear MrPain's excuses for that run... if you could call it a run!

HTF
has he ruined the horse.
Cluless McCain seems to be having a great festival for someone who doesnt have a clue
What a stupid post.

geoff,are you blind or just stupid?
Horse ran like a selling plater there,apart from Sir De Champs the remainder of the field were donkeys

It would seem that you're especially stupid, clevername imo.

Champion Court ran a great race - only an idiot would dismiss him as a donkey.

totally agree rease.he ran a blinder !

think he has a few big races in him.
champion court that is

This CleverName is an absolute moron. Has only been on here a week and has posted more sh1te than most manage in a year.

i think the fact that he couldn't actually think up a 'clever name' tells it's own story chaps

Feb 26  14.15hrs

Cammy feel no way... It's not your fault S*** happens. At least your a man of your convictions & fully supported Minsk. Get your money back from Mullins' Sir Des Champs in the Jewson (Before the prioe collapses).

Hope Cammy & some of you guys picked the above up. Tommorrow.... Citizenship 1p win (County Hdle) & bet of the day... Burton Port 1p ew (Will not beat Long run but 1/4 price means same return as if you back LR).... Best of luck guys.

You lot really are thick,peddlers cross will never win another race,he's finished.McCain has bottomed this horse

Are you an idiot completely? Donal mcCain is one of the best racehorse trainers in the British Isles - get a grip!

Hopefully Clevername disappears as quickly as he came. Certainly knows FA about the game.

Clevername = Mayweather, 5* wheelbarrow job NAP

I think Peddlers has something hurting him. This arguement about him being bottomed is rubbish, he ran in 1 race last season that he should not have,the Aintree race, McCain has admitted he got it wrong then.So Peddlers has either gone in the head or has a problem either way it's not the trainers fault.

Would any of u mugs like a bet with me that he'll never win another Grade 1?
Donald has ruined the horse,it's plain for all to see

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Good bunch of blokes on here who can exchange opposing opinions without calling each other 'mugs' or 'idiots'. You might crack it one day.

Tim Leslie needs to act immediately and move this horse to a top class trainer who knows what he's doing,
Willie Mullins has already proven just how incredibly inept these northern trainers are by winning race after race with the graham wylie recruits from the howard johnson yard,
if willie had peddlers cross he would turn him into a gold cup horse

Better bait needed (nap)

Total idiots on here.
Peddlers Cross looked awesome in his first outing at Bangor, second outing was not quite as good but still impressive. Then put in his place by a truly outstanding horse in Sprinter Sacre. Probable that Peddlers Cross was not at his best that day - hence was not seen again until the festival. And anyone that can read will tell you that McCain was on record as syaing Peddlers Cross 'looks' to be coming back to himself. So that said his run yesterday was encouraging - but you could not have backed him with any confidence. Possible that he still is not quite right, or that this run will bring him on and he will be cherry ripe for Aintree, either way he is still a horse of some potential and most likely one of only a few who is capable of giving Sprinter Sacre a race in the next couple of years.

Would also add that that Sir De Champs will probably be a Gold Cup horse next year - and looks a very promising one at that. As for Champion Court, he did his trainer very very proud and surely the Paddy Power now beckons !!

Bullshit,he was beat after four fences yesterday like all the vibes said he would be.
Horse shouldnt have run simple as obviously not right.

horse has gone sour probaly doesnt like fences nothing to with mccain

"beaten like all the vibes said he would be"? backed from 7/2 to as low as 5/2 at one time resting at around 11/4   - 3/1, that doesnt seem the market move of a horse with"bad vibes"  . in all reality the horse just isnt as good over fences as it was over hurdles, may improve over the bigger obstacles later on in his career, probably was his worst effort over fences so far, maybe the horse may never be as good again, who knows.

anyone who backed peddlers cross is more of a mug than mccain himself!!!

He was NEVER going to make a chaser, I have been saying this since last summer (there is a thread with it on somewhere). Only now have they realised, after all the bullshit McCain had to say about them beating Sprinter as well.

Good trainer, but a clown.

McCain has been far too bullish with this horse he went to Kempton thinking Sprinter was going to duck out but little did he know Sprinter is a monster and he eats horses like PC for breakfast. I think he's done a poor job with the horse he's had far too many tough races and I think the tough & game Peddlers Cross has finally said I've had enough of this ****. He needs to have a nice long break to freshen up and have a go back over hurdles.

Guys work it out Clevername ( banker!!! ) is mayweather just ignore the prat!
But agree Mccain has lot to answer to re Peddlers Cross campaign.

Pocket talkers... nuff said!

Horse clearly not as fast/fluid/brave over fences as over hurdles and they're taking the sensible route back to hurdles...

He would have been in the shake up in the CH again I'd hazard to suggest... & if he stays wld be an interesting WH entry IMVHO

He obviously ran well in the Champion last year but he was put in his place by the fly who was put in his place by Rock on Ruby and Overturn. Waste of time putting him in the champion again (that's why they switched to fences) and agree he would be interesting in the World Hurdle as he has always struck me as tenacious when on song.

My theory is that Peddlers Cross emptied himself out against Hurricane Fly in the CH.

PC has given too much he is Rafa Nadal of racehorses like Denman was. I`m not sure how people can crab Donald. After all he expanded the horses ability over hurdles. Yet i dont think PC has done anything since the CH to suggest he is the same horse.

I've never quite understood all this horses getting bottomed out stuff, now i'm no equine expert as regards to the rigours put on horses but, horses have hard races all the time, they are given the best training facilities and regimes to make sure they are primed to the minute, how can a hard race wreck one of these brutes for what seems like an absolute age, this type of thing is what they are trained to do, i can't have it at all.

Duffy

I`m sure its more of a mental thing. Some horses reach high levels because of their will to go through the pain barrier more than others of similar physical ability. Once they lose that desire to keep on pushing even though their lungs are burning, then its down hill from there.

Physiologically, they are different. Horses are more able to push themselves to the absolute limit of their capabilities than humans and so find it harder to recover from that effort. The breed has been refined down over a matter of centuries, with traits such as being unable/unwilling to make maximum effort bred out. The very best of them are able to push that tiny bit more, which is why they're in demand from breeders.
How many human athletes can you remember that have pushed themselves to the point where their heart has stopped? Bobby Simpson the cyclist, but that's about it and that was near enough 50 years ago. It happens on the racetrack with far more frequency unfortunately.
On the Grand Prix athletics circuit, you see the top humans pushing themselves to the max, then coming out and doing it again the next week. That's just not possible for a top equine athlete.

How many human athletes can you remember that have pushed themselves to the point where their heart has stopped? Bobby Simpson the cyclist, but that's about it and that was near enough 50 years ago.

I can think of one that happened less than two weeks ago

Anyway Peddlers Cross will never be the force of old in my humble opinion.

He almost over achieved as a hurdler because he was all heart. Perhaps it is a physical problem and something is hurting him or he has decided that he does not like pushing himself anymore.

Whatever it is i would not blame the trainer.

Or perhaps it is simply because despite what many thought during his hurdling career he just is not a chaser looking back now with the benefit of hindsight at those two bangor runs, he didn't give the fences much air did he, perhaps it wasn't him being "economical" after all, perhaps he just struggles to get over them, i would expect him to resume his level of form over hurdles that we saw a couple of years back and i hope he stays 3 miles.

Apparently going to be targeted at 2013 World Hurdle

Perhaps Duffy but dont forget that Aintree run was very poor. To me he has not shown any of his Champion Hurdle flat speed since the CH. Perhaps a holiday and a campaign as a staying hurdler may be the ticket, but i am not convinced.

Mikael D'Haguent never made it back from a failed chasing campaign.

Or Straw Bear

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Apparently going to be targeted at 2013 World Hurdle

....whwerin he'll hopefully race against another failed chaser!