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denman85
11 Mar 12 11:29
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here my view, sprinter sacre is facing a decent field in the arkle:

4 horses, al ferof, menorah, cue card and blackstrairsmountain have all won 1 or more grade 1's, Sprinter sacre was won none.

Sprinter Sacre is yet to prove hes suited by a up hill finish, ( ascot and cheltenham his 2 deafeats)

i feel al ferof form is rock solid, hes often been running in better races, and we know he loves the hill

Hurricane fly the same price, is a proven top class horse, won ten grade 1's and we know he acts around chelt, and i feel other than binocular nothing can give him a race

in the arkle i think the winner is out of al ferof , cue card and sprinter sacre.

at the prices id much rather be on hurricane fly, as sprinter sacre has it all to prove and at the prices i aint payig to find out!

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Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 11:32
Al Ferof`s form is behind that of Finians Rainbow. Hendersons team  will be laughing all the  way to the bank. They expect SS to be at least a stone better than Finians Rainbow. So were does that leave Al Ferof?
By:
JamesRB
When: 11 Mar 12 11:39
tough one. fly has more depth in terms of opposition but has more proven form than sacre.

sacre probably the slightly better bet. luckily my bet on the fly was 5/2. Grin
By:
wellchief
When: 11 Mar 12 11:42
I'd say the value is gone out of both of them.

If you weren't on the Fly before the Irish Champion Hurdle or Sprinter before the Game Spirit I wouldn't be backing either of them at the current prices - but good luck - I want them both to win Wink
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 11:47
Depends how you view it. Taking 10/11 on a horse which has made it down to the start relaxed. Lump on.

or take 5/2 worrying about it making the race a few weeks before the race. Plenty of wise men dont back ante post..

Thinly veiled Angel missed a decent price Laugh
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 11 Mar 12 11:54
Sprinter Lay, The Fly Back - Simples.
By:
Luke01
When: 11 Mar 12 18:13
H Fly SOLID AND WINS EASILY.

I am laying Sprinter Sacre just got the gut feeling he will travel like the winner and last 2 fences find nothing similar to Fianans last season, and Al Ferof and Menohrah if still standing will finish alot stronger.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 18:25
Luke its all about opinions mate.

But Sprinter Sacre is diffent class to Finians Rainbow. Look at the FR rating before he ran in the Arkle.
By:
judorick
When: 11 Mar 12 18:29
B o y le sports

money back if your horse is second in the first 4 races on day 1 max £200 back

£200 on SS
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 18:33
What if it wins though Judrick you have lost 200.Mischief
By:
super7hans
When: 11 Mar 12 18:38
^^^^^^ you for real?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 18:55
Laugh
By:
Hibore
When: 11 Mar 12 19:08
You need your head examined if you back Sprinter Sacre at 10/11 for the simple reason there are better even money bets running that don't have to beat 3 grade 1 winners in the process.

That is a fact that Paddy Power are banking on.

Hurricane Fly has proved he is a class performer and although wouldn't back him for the above reasons would be the safer bet of the two.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 19:18
Hilbore

I would be more than happy to back the horse at 10/11 as i think is a 4/9 shot in my mind.

I am so confident that it is different class. He will will easily.
By:
judorick
When: 11 Mar 12 19:19
do the bo y le sport offer and get your money back if they finish second - looks a free bet
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 19:19
He will win easily.Mischief
By:
jasey
When: 11 Mar 12 19:22
The fly is a penalty kick,wonder horse,the real deal.
SS is  a lot about hype,and you can't ignore the fact that paddy powers brains expect him to get beat
By:
judorick
When: 11 Mar 12 19:25
I can ignore whatever the fck I want

paddy power also gave money back if spain won the world cup so they don't always get it right
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 19:28
Paddy Power brains are not expecting it to get beat. The traders are taking a punt that he will find zilch off the bridle. Traders have a more of a free reign to try and `get one` at Chelts. They are going for it on the first day. They have probably juggled numbers about so their liability is gettable on the remainder of the meeting.

The traders are punters as well. believe me.
By:
denman85
When: 11 Mar 12 19:28
i cant see how sprinter is 10/11  its a joke
By:
judorick
When: 11 Mar 12 19:32
yes should be 1/3, at least a stone in hand only gotta jump the fences to win, lump on
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 11 Mar 12 19:33
SS goes off odds against imho! 11/10 - 6/5 area
By:
denman85
When: 11 Mar 12 19:37
judo u r a clown
By:
denman85
When: 11 Mar 12 19:37
judo u r a clown
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 19:38
Any bookie who does not take SS on will be cast aside. They have to take him on.

But as a punter its is great, SS is different class to Finians Rainbow. That puts him miles in front of Al Feron, that makes him 4/9 in my book.
By:
judorick
When: 11 Mar 12 19:43
and you are one of the worst judges of horse flesh it has been my misfortune to encounter in a long time Denman.

The fact that you don't have the first inkling that this monster is the next superstar chaser shows how you are basically a mug guesser. This horse is a total beast and it is so obvious to anyone is even half a judge. All the connections know it, the Official Handicapper knows it, the jockeys all know it including Ruby Walsh. He will be winning multiple Grade 1 chases for the next few seasons (cross fingers)

but idiots like you are so dumb you can't see it when it is staring you right in the face
By:
Luke01
When: 11 Mar 12 19:44
Sprinter I am laying
By:
jasey
When: 11 Mar 12 19:46
Ok there not expecting him to get beat.
they know he will get beat
By:
Luke01
When: 11 Mar 12 19:47
Arkle Favourites always LOSE - plus the Hill 10-11 no thanks
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 19:50
Jud

Some people like to rely only on what has happened, they struggle to step out into the beyond..to see what the next stage is. They are stuck in the [b]now[/b.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 19:52
Jasey

Traders do not know anymore than you or me. The heads of trading will have a group hug and say lets go for it.

They are guessers mate.
By:
ashmeade 79
When: 11 Mar 12 19:52
2003     Azertyuiop     6     11-8     5/4F     Paul Nicholls     R Walsh     170

What do you mean favs don't win arkle?
By:
jasey
When: 11 Mar 12 19:54
Get your excuses ready,when this monster gets outslugged (again at chelt)
By:
jasey
When: 11 Mar 12 19:56
Angel on that basis are punters guessers to
By:
cricnut
When: 11 Mar 12 19:58
The thing,is,at the Festival every horse is aimed at their particular race and is 100% fit. I don't think Sprintre Sacre, will win, the bookmakers don't give money away. Hurricane Fly is going to be like Istabraq, almost unbeatable and as others have written, I feel only Binnocular will even have a chance of getting close to it and if I had to bet a very short one, then I think, the Fly would be the one I would back
By:
Hibore
When: 11 Mar 12 20:00
Angel if you think SS is one of bets of Cheltenham I really worry for you. Unless you have a juicy ante post voucher at biggish odds I would just watch the race.
By:
jasey
When: 11 Mar 12 20:01
The fly is proven over course distance and class, its a no contest in my view
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 20:19
Jasey of course.Wink

Hilbore

I think the horse will win easily. I think if you ran the race 50 times he would win easily everytime. On that basis i make SS a racing certainty. 10/11 is worth a monster bet in my eyes. Regarding AP there is no way i would part with my money before the day of the race. Its just my way, in fact i will not place my bet until i see the horse go down.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Mar 12 20:20
The Fly also has a history of niggles.
By:
punchestown
When: 11 Mar 12 20:22
Hurricane Fly would be a far better bet imho,travels like a dream and has all the gears you could possibly have with a NH horse.
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