Triumph poll - £200 on Minsk or Sadlers

Sadlers for me

PUT A TON ON THE NOSE ON BOTH

Sadlers saw it beat sea moon in a maiden at leicester when trained by mark johnston front rumming tactical speed, beaten 3l by nathaniel, hurdled ok at kempton where he settled well get on the nose NOT ew

Sadlers for me, simply because he's alreaady jumped a hurlde in public.

Whilst Sadlers was visually impressive his time at kempton was similar to Hisabaats leopardstown time i know different tracks etc but it shows what rubbish sadlers beat

Henry - I know you're a huge Minsk fan but he asked Sadlers or Minsk. Sadlers may have beaten rubbish but he's beatne something which is more than Minsk will have done by tomorrow morning.

Saddlers definitely.

agree strontium i just hate backing Hobbs horses at big meetings they just dont seem to be jumping well i do think Sadlers will improve on that run but where you as impressed by Hisabaat  at leopardstown who did a similar time but beat far superior horses  than sadlers just not visually as impressive and dont forget sadlers didnt jump the last flight at kempton as it was bypassed so time would have been a bit slower

IMO one can't compare times at different tracks on different ground etc. I was quite impressed by Hisabaat but it didn't strike me as Triumph winning form due to the proximity of Countrywide Flame. However, Hisabaat beat soem decent horses and Sadlers probably didn't. At the moment I think the grumati/Pearl Swan form line is probably the best, but there will be 3 very informative races tomorrow.

yeah im pretty sure all three will win saturday but  my only concern about a treble would be  Dildar in sadlers race

well leopardstown has a very stiff 2 furlong uphill finish whereas kempton is flat so more merit could be gleaned from hisabaats time maybe who knows sadlers may have done even more if forced to battle hard etc i just think it illustrates that wow factors are not always accurate

I'm very interested to see how Une Artiste looks on decent ground as well. She didn't look a world beater at Haydock but the ground there was terrible. Also Dodging Bullets in the Dovecote.

Yeah that's definitely true Henry - in fact they can be positively misleading.

Bigal- sorry to go OT on your thread.

Have 50 ew on DARROUN and 50 ew on SHADOW CATCHER.  Still sticking to my guns with that race on nye

Anyone who wants to back either at the current prices is a moron/idiot/destined long term loser on racing. So some advice for you. Don't.

ps Biffarama has the right idea.

sadlers

MINSK

Thanks lads - £100 ew on Sadlers at 6/1 - will watch today with interest

Henry done his tenner in cold blood?

What price was Baby Mix before that?

Oh look I was right. Shocker.