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By:
bland82
When: 10 Feb 12 07:14
lf l remember rightly Mount Benbulben put his back out when behind Boston Bob so that wouldn't of helped his jumping. Also it was a small field that went a slow gallop and turned into a bit of a sprint which wouldn't of suited Mount Benbulben as he is an out and out galloper. l backed him for this race after his defeat last time out and the subsequent form shown by Boston Bob has only strengthened my view on Mount Benbulben.
By:
Meadow
When: 10 Feb 12 07:15
Meister Eckhart 14.1 to 40.1 - just sold, won a hurdle and has bumper prices, add to that Benheir is in there, whats all that about?
By:
R Carver
When: 10 Feb 12 07:41
Thanks Tom, yes good here, if getting a little anxious in the build up! Hope you are coping!

I suspect you are right about BB running on Weds. They may see the AB as 'there for the taking' but I think you are right, at MB's current price, even if BB is declared, you can trade out. I'll have to step in!

I do think Rocky is a seriously nice horse and imagine he will improve again. Staying looks his forte but I was very taken with MB's earlier efforts so assuming mitigation exists for LTO (which it seems to) and BB goes elsewhere I think his price is too big. I also think a couple more will step forward, including another from the Nicholls camp, but whether good enough.

Out of Lavelle's, I think Highland Lodge is a better horse than Guilambursti and will leave Warwick miles behind. I think Ambion Wood is probably a better horse potentially than Cotton Mill, though which way they go and whether good enough, I am not sure.
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Feb 12 09:04
Tom, i've not said the form of Gullibursti is better. It blatantly isn't. But thats why he is a 33/1 chance. A suspect on the day he'll be around 16's or 20's if he makes it.

I backed Mount Belbulben 2 runs back (posted on the NH Ante-post thread) and believe he is top class like everyone else on here. But I dont like backing horses who have injured themselves in their run prior, albeit a minor one. I'd rather wait and see how they are on the next outing first to see they are over it, and if they go and hack-up then so be it. Gl.
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Feb 12 09:07
Hard To Swallow runs today at Kempton on the AW.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 10 Feb 12 10:25
good OP and thread, tho i disagree that 'it seems clear HTS needs good ground to be seen at his best etc'....evidence flimsy at best. good luck.
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 10 Feb 12 14:48
Happy enough with that run in a race that was never going to suit.
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Feb 12 14:53
Yes a good run. No match for the winner Tetlami.
By:
hemsby
When: 10 Feb 12 23:06
Excellent OP EC,and very imformative opinions after also.

Does anyone know if Corbally Ghost is being targeted at this?I was very taken with his attitude and desire to win when beating Midnight Game at Punchestown,before winning a Grade 3 at Cork.Also entered for the Neptune,but no money for him in either race on B/F.
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 12 Feb 12 17:41
great post EC, hope you're doing well mate.

have had a few quid on Hard To Swallow, still waiting further news on Boston Bob before getting stuck into this race.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 12 Feb 12 19:25
Willie on RTE when Tracy asks for a tip (one to follow) - his immediate reaction is a hesitation to tip Sous Les  Cieux - says afterwards he hasn't "lost faith in Sous".

BUT then tips "Boston Bob - his best young horse to follow - depending on which race he runs in at Cheltenham of course" in a laugh !


WE'LL WAIT N' SEE.....

Boston Bob (5) , Fingal Bay (8) , Mount Benbulben (12) , Rocky Creek (14) , Sea Of Thunder (14) , Ballyrock (16) , Folsom Blue (16) , Ipsos Du Berlais (16) , Cotton Mill (20) , Make Your Mark (20) , Sizing Symphony (25) , Sword Of Destiny (25) , The Real Milan (25) , Ambion Wood (33) , Ballycasey (33) , Benefficient (33) , Brindisi Breeze (33) , Corbally Ghost (33) , Dedigout (33) , Deireadh Re (33)  - Others  33 or more
By:
differentdrum
When: 18 Feb 12 14:42
For me the best staying performance by a novice this season by Brindisi Breeze - if he was trained by Mullins he would now be favourite. Some potentially very good horses well beaten off. Obvious concern with the ground but if soft does happen to appear in the going description he looks a big player.
By:
Wicketd
When: 18 Feb 12 15:14
agree. cant believe i didnt get on when he was bigger. backed him at 12s, serious performance.
By:
differentdrum
When: 18 Feb 12 15:32
Crazy that a horse like Rocky Creek who won a far less competitive race at Doncaster (receiving weight) is a shorter price.
By:
Mystic Wind
When: 18 Feb 12 15:59
Hugely impressive today, not sure he'd be troubled by quicker ground (jockey thinks he'd be OK on faster too). Unfashionable (yet competent) connections = great value @ 12/1 imo. Another big plus is there's no ambiguity over which race he'll be aimed at.
By:
sintonian
When: 18 Feb 12 20:16
Was very impressive. Slight concern perhaps that he put up such a good performance on Heavy ground with just over 3 weeks to recover ?
By:
sintonian
When: 18 Feb 12 20:22
When Gullinbursti just failed to win a handicap off 134 yesterday at Newbury I thought my small bet for March was phucked. But in hindsight Knock A Hand is a very good horse, he had won 3 from 3 hurdles race previously, and one of the horses Gullinbursti beat previously, Grand Vision, conceding him 10lb, hacked up in the class 2 pertemps qualifier handicap at Haydock today. So not a forlorn hope, but still needs to improve.
By:
sintonian
When: 18 Feb 12 20:25
Lucinda Russell feels Brindisi Breeze represents her best ever chance of having saddling a Cheltenham Festival winner after his superb front-running display in the Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle at Haydock.

The Kelso and Newcastle winner was the 9-2 co-favourite of four for the three-mile Grade Two, and dictated matters from start to finish under Campbell Gillies, galloping on relentlessly to score by 12 lengths from Harry Topper.

Both Ladbrokes and Betfred were suitably impressed, slashing the six-year-old to 12-1 for the Albert Bartlett at Cheltenham.

"That was amazing," said a thrilled Russell.

"He's not an overly-big horse but he has an amazing attitude and amazing ability - he's awesome.

"You can go down to Cheltenham and have a nice day out with a horse, but judged on that performance, he would be my best chance of having a winner there.

"I don't know if that makes it more exciting or worse, I'll tell you by the end of Cheltenham week!"
By:
red and white
When: 19 Feb 12 09:42
I wouldn't trust heavy ground Haydock form at Cheltenham. The jockey said he'd go on any ground but he's got bendy legs and so has the horse. Ha'way The Lads!
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 19 Feb 12 09:55
Despite concerns about the jockey's legs I thought that was a cracking performance. With Boston Bob and Fingal Bay more likely to run in the higher prestige Neptune (my opinion only) the 12/1 each way is more than fair and most unlikely to last for long.
By:
red and white
When: 19 Feb 12 14:14
You never know, it would be good to see soft ground at the Festival this year for a change to help those of us who like slow horses.
By:
bland82
When: 19 Feb 12 16:09
He won his point on good ground in a very good time beating horses with lofty reputations. l wouldn't be too concerned about the ground personally.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 19 Feb 12 16:20
Bland 82 he won his point on soft ground and was beaten on good ground in a bumper...he looks a decent prospect but you will only be able to take it on jockey comments that he will be able to handle spring ground...not sure myself but he does look a big improver...
By:
bland82
When: 19 Feb 12 16:26
Sorry Harry your right, l got them mixed up, he made his debut in points on good ground but was brought down and won his point on soft.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 19 Feb 12 16:45
no probs easily done
By:
BJG
When: 22 Feb 12 12:08
Scratching made for 21
The remainder pay scratching deadline fee

Aikideau (FR) (The Stewart Family) Richard Rowe..................................................... 5 11 7
Alderwood (IRE) (Mr John P. McManus) Thomas Mullins, Ireland ........................ 8 11 7
Ambion Wood (IRE) (Mr O. C. R. Wynne & Mrs S. J. Wynne) Victor Dartnall .....................
6 11 7
American Spin (Mr G. Collacott) Luke Dace................................................................. 8 11 7
Ardkilly Gunner (IRE) (Mr R. S. Brookhouse) Ian Williams .................................... 7 11 7
Aupcharlie (IRE) (Ann & Alan Potts Partnership) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ............. 6 11 7
Baldadash (IRE) (Mr R. Cooper) George Baker........................................................... 7 11 7
Ballyboker Boy (IRE) (The Ballyboker Boy Partnership) Jamie Snowden ......... 8 11 7
Ballyrock (IRE) (Pearn’s Pharmacies Ltd) Tim Vaughan............................................. 6 11 7
Barenger (IRE) (Mr R. A. Bartlett) Nicky Henderson................................................ 5 11 7
Benefficient (IRE) (A Shiels/Niall Reilly) A. J. Martin, Ireland.................................. 6 11 7
Benheir (IRE) (Mr G. Costelloe) Rebecca Curtis.......................................................... 6 11 7
Big Occasion (IRE) (The Old Betfairians) David Pipe ................................................ 5 11 7
Boston Bob (IRE) (Andrea & Graham Wylie) W. P. Mullins, Ireland..................... 7 11 7
Brass Tax (IRE) (Mrs Carolyn Kendrick) Ben Case ..................................................... 6 11 7
Brindisi Breeze (IRE) (Mr Sandy Seymour) Lucinda Russell ................................... 6 11 7
Brough Academy (IRE) (Mr W. F. Caudwell) Lawney Hill....................................... 6 11 7
Buddy Bolero (IRE) (Mr Malcolm C. Denmark) David Pipe................................... 6 11 7
Cape Dutch (IRE) (Bloomfields) John Ferguson............................................................ 5 11 7
Captain Moonman (IRE) (Diamond Racing Ltd) Tim Vaughan.............................. 7 11 7
Chac du Cadran (FR) (Bingley, Williams & Pepperdine) Chris Bealby................ 6 11 7
Cotton Mill (Bloomfields) John Ferguson.......................................................................... 5 11 7
Dawn Commander (GER) (Mr Alan Halsall) Charlie Longsdon............................ 5 11 7
Dedigout (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) A. J. Martin, Ireland ............................ 6 11 7
Deireadh Re (IRE) (Mr Ian J. Fogg) Paul Nicholls........................................................ 6 11 7
Destroyer Deployed (The Craftsmen) Tim Vaughan ................................................. 6 11 7
Dont Back Down (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) Gordon Elliott, Ireland..... 5 11 7
Felix Yonger (IRE) (Andrea & Graham Wylie) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ................... 6 11 7
Fill The Power (IRE) (The McGoldrick Partnership) Sue Smith............................. 6 11 7
Folsom Blue (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) Conor O’Dwyer, Ireland ........... 5 11 7
Fox Appeal (IRE) (Fox Inn Syndicate 3) Emma Lavelle ............................................. 5 11 7
Go All The Way (IRE) (Ann & Alan Potts Partnership) J. T. R. Dreaper,
Ireland ...................................................................................................................................... 7 11 7
Goulanes (IRE) (Mr R. S. Brookhouse) David Pipe...................................................... 6 11 7
Grand Vision (IRE) (Mr Terry Warner) Colin Tizzard ............................................... 6 11 7
Gullinbursti (IRE) (Mr N. Mustoe) Emma Lavelle ....................................................... 6 11 7
Hard To Swallow (IRE) (Mrs Louise Jones) Martin Keighley .................................. 6 11 7
Hasty Times (IRE) (Mr Colm White) John Joseph Murphy, Ireland ..................... 7 11 7
Ipsos du Berlais (FR) (Gigginstown House Stud) Noel Meade, Ireland ............. 6 11 7
Jigsaw Puzzle (IRE) (Mr Malcolm C. Denmark) Warren Greatrex ...................... 6 11 7
Keenes Day (FR) (J. O’Brien & C. J. Leech) Sophie Leech...................................... 7 11 7
Knight Pass (IRE) (Mr Malcolm C. Denmark) Warren Greatrex .......................... 6 11 7
Knock A Hand (IRE) (Mr Alan Halsall) Richard Lee................................................... 7 11 7
Lord Gale (IRE) (Mrs Robin Birley) W. P. Mullins, Ireland......................................... 6 11 7
Lovcen (GER) (The Barbury Apes) Alan King................................................................. 7 11 7
Make Your Mark (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ......... 5 11 7
Marasonnien (FR) (Mrs S. Ricci) W. P. Mullins, Ireland .............................................. 6 11 7
Meister Eckhart (IRE) (Carters Of Baltimore) Rebecca Curtis............................. 6 11 7
Mount Benbulben (IRE) (Mr Barry Connell) Gordon Elliott, Ireland ................. 7 11 7
Nagpur (FR) (Miss S. Douglas-Pennant) Venetia Williams ......................................... 6 11 7
Perpetually (IRE) (Bloomfields) John Ferguson ............................................................. 6 11 7
Pickapocketortwo (IRE) (YITBA Racing Club) W. P. Mullins, Ireland.................. 8 11 7
Poole Master (Mr G. Thompson) David Pipe ................................................................ 7 11 7
Real Milan (IRE) (Mrs Diana L. Whateley) Donald McCain..................................... 7 11 7
Rev It Up (IRE) (The Bill & Ben Partnership) Tim Vaughan .................................... 6 11 7
Rocky Creek (IRE) (The Johnson & Stewart Families) Paul Nicholls ................... 6 11 7
Same Difference (IRE) (Mrs R. Vaughan) Nigel Twiston-Davies ........................... 6 11 7
Sea of Thunder (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) Charles Byrnes, Ireland....... 7 11 7
Sheer Genius (IRE) (O. Finetto) John Joseph Murphy, Ireland............................... 7 11 7
Sivola de Sivola (FR) (D O’Donohoe, S & P Nelson & D Silvester)
Tom George........................................................................................................................... 6 11 7
Sizing Symphony (IRE) (Alan & Ann Potts Partnership)
Henry de Bromhead, Ireland........................................................................................... 6 11 7
Super Villan (Mr Mark Tamburro) Lawney Hill............................................................. 7 11 7
Sword of Destiny (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) Noel Meade, Ireland ........ 6 11 7
Talkonthestreet (IRE) (Mrs Diana L. Whateley) Philip Hobbs............................... 5 11 7
Terminal (FR) (Favourites Racing) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ............................................ 5 11 7
Theatrical Star (Brocade Racing) Colin Tizzard ........................................................... 6 11 7
The Bosses Cousin (IRE) (Mrs J. M. Mullins) W. P. Mullins, Ireland..................... 7 11 7
The Druids Nephew (IRE) (The Stonehenge Druids) Andy Turnell.................... 5 11 7
Thehillofuisneach (IRE) (Walters Plant Hire Ltd) Jonjo O’Neill ............................ 8 11 7
The Tracey Shuffle (Mrs Jo Tracey) David Pipe............................................................ 6 11 7
Toostrong (FR) (Gigginstown House Stud) W. P. Mullins, Ireland .......................... 5 11 7
Tour des Champs (FR) (Mr H. R. Mould) Nigel Twiston-Davies .......................... 5 11 7
Vesper Bell (IRE) (Mrs S. Ricci) W. P. Mullins, Ireland................................................ 6 11 7
Whispering Hills (IRE) (Mr P. Aspell) D. T. Hughes, Ireland ................................... 7 11 7
Theleze (FR) (Ann & Alan Potts Partnership) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ..................... 5 11
By:
krl
When: 22 Feb 12 22:56
I have spent hours on this race , if its heavy there is only one winner - Brindisi, if its soft 12/1 is still cracking value.
By:
Andymca
When: 22 Feb 12 22:59
AAny thoughts on Sword of Destiny ?
By:
krl
When: 22 Feb 12 23:19
Certainly one of the harder horses to weigh up as he won a poor grade 3 very easily.RP rating off 151 is open to question as is his american pedigree.He would have to be by a long way the best NH horse the sire has produced to be involved at the business end in this race.On the plus side he has done whats asked of him very easily and if Davy Russel took the ride he deserves respect .
By:
krl
When: 22 Feb 12 23:36
Harry, Brindisi won his point in a time 11 secs faster than any other race that day.
By:
Andymca
When: 22 Feb 12 23:56
cheers krl
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 23 Feb 12 14:52
That's 74 left in
By:
harry callaghan
When: 23 Feb 12 22:50
Any chance mullins will let us know the decision on this race...have spent hours on it and want to get involved but cannot with boston a likely runner...very annoying for the punterPlain
By:
Mister T
When: 24 Feb 12 02:50
I agree with bland82

lf l remember rightly Mount Benbulben put his back out when behind Boston Bob so that wouldn't of helped his jumping. Also it was a small field that went a slow gallop and turned into a bit of a sprint which wouldn't of suited Mount Benbulben as he is an out and out galloper. l backed him for this race after his defeat last time out and the subsequent form shown by Boston Bob has only strengthened my view on Mount Benbulben.


Also, I was in Leopardstown the last day when Boston Bob won (some performance) under top weight and in crap conditions!! That was over 2m5f, the same distance in Cheltenham is closer to 2m7f - taking into account the undulations and the hill. Now Leopardstown and Cheltenham are chalk and cheese. Ever since MB came on the scene Gordan Elliott has always said he's a three miler, he made BB work hard for his win - even though MB had put his back out! MB was the "hype" horse before that defeat but I truly believe he if he stays sound he could be anything. Also, the Neptune is seen as the more prestigious race!

Bottom Line, I think Boston Bob will run in and will win the Neptune, I also think it would be great to see the Wileys back in the winners enclosure in Cheltenham after all they have put into the game. I think W P Mullins knows that Gordan Elliott is going for the 3 miler and is not for changing (they're neighbours) plus there must be a slight doubt that BB beat a horse that wasn't running to his full potential when they last met and for those reasons I have backed both horses accordingly!!!

Best of luck whatever you back at the festival, can't wait!Love
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 24 Feb 12 14:56
Based on past experience (does anyone else remember how long it took him to confirm MDH for the Neptune/Sun Alliance) I doubt we will hear anything relevant from Mr Mullins. However the Neptune is surely the more prestigious race and with Fingal Bay looking doubtful I would be pretty surprised if he lined up anywhere else.

As a big Brindisi fan for the longer race I would say that though     Laugh
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 24 Feb 12 15:03
According to Twitter, Wylie has said Boston Bob heads to Neptune, seems betting on here suggests that too.
By:
wellchief
When: 24 Feb 12 16:47
Mr T, I echo your thoughts completely.

There were similarities between the trainers reactions when Peddlers got beat by Sprinter and Mount Benbulben got beat by Boston Bob.

Gordon Elliot was genuinly shocked that something had come along and lowered Mount Benbulben's colours because he is thought the world of (Similar to McCain and Peddlers).

To only get beat 4 lengths when he was jumping to the right at every hurdle and was found to be injured is quite impressive imo.  He still managed to finish ahead of Ipsos Du Berlais who is no mug at all.

Historically this is a race I've always struggled to get excited about though; but I can see Mount Benbulben going off quite short if Boston does go the Neptune route.  The 10's available is good value imo, just disappointed I missed the 12's earlier in the week.
By:
krl
When: 24 Feb 12 22:28
It will be interesting to see how well Netminder runs tomorrow. I fully expect him to frank the BB form, no not the Boston Bob form.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 02 Mar 12 17:00
Boston Bob (5) , Mount Benbulben (7) , Rocky Creek (8) , Sea Of Thunder (8) , Brindisi Breeze (10) , Ballyrock (16) , Ipsos Du Berlais (16) , Cotton Mill (20) , Lovcen (20) , Make Your Mark (20) , Benefficient (25) , Felix Yonger (25) , Folsom Blue (25) , Sizing Symphony (25) , Sword Of Destiny (25) , Aupcharlie (33) , Dedigout (33) , Deireadh Re (33) , Fox Appeal (33) , Grand Vision (33)  - Others  33 or more
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 06 Mar 12 14:45
ALBERT BARTLETT NOVICE HURDLE from the preview nights......

Paul Nicholls very keen on Rocky Creek. As mentioned earlier he believes Boston Bob will go to the Neptune. Rocky Creek wouldn't want ground too quick. Be a nice chaser next year & won't run if too quick. Will run well.

Andrew King thought Rocky Creek would go off 7-2 if Boston Bob was NR, so 10-1 at the moment was excellent

Paul Jones was not taken by Brindisi Breeze last run, not up to the standard to win this race

Patrick Mullins said he believed this would be the target for Boston Bob and he was very keen on its chances. I got the impression this was his favourite horse in the yard such was his enthusiasm.

Paul Carberry flagged up both Mount Benbullben for Gordon Elliott and Meade’s Ipsos Du Berlais.

John Francome - Rocky Creek/Brindisi Breeze

Jim McGrath - Rocky creek

Davy Russell - Brindisi breeze

Jessica Harrington - Sea of thunder

Noel O’Brien – Ballyrock

Tom Segal - Mount benbulben. Fox Appeal 33/1 Emma Lavelles horse.

Paddy Power - Mount Benbulben cost a quarter of a mill. 2nd to Boston Bob. Great chance.

Gordon Elliott - His best chances of a winner are Mount Benbulben.
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