Cheltenham Festival
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Trip was on sharp side today harry, he's just the dour sort that wins the RSA so I'd say the shorter prices about him i.e. 5/1 are closer to the reality than 8/1.
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Grands Crus (11/4) , Bobs Worth (5) , Last Instalment (8) , First Lieutenant (9) , Join Together (10) , Bog Warrior (12) , Silviniaco Conti (12) , Sir Des Champs (12) , Lambro (25) , Berties Dream (33) , Call The Police (33) , Champion Court (33) , Mossley (33) , Ace High (40) , Walkon (40) , Allee Garde (50) , Cristal Bonus (50) , Invictus (50) , Mr Moonshine (50) , Soll (50) - Others 50 or more
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Harry, if you don't like this years novices, what do you make of last years?
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Thieves totally agree and he could do know more than win and I have to say I do like him...
But my reasoning for the price which I feel should be around 7's is the competition in the race... For me the english novices look classier individuals, that isn't to say he cannot win - but is my reasoning for what I believe his price should be... This looks as competitive as ever and thus should be priced up accordingly...he can still go well as he jumps lovely but whether he will be good enough against the english novices I have my doubts...I will say though he looks the ideal horse for the race with him having good experience under his belt and looks tough...cut in the ground will enhance his chances as not sure he will wants proper spring ground...or he will be able to perform to a higher level lets say...but also think grands crus wants some more dig to perform to his very best... Shockster hope this answers your question to a point...last years were poor before lining up but this years look a far better crop...you have to remember wayward lad was a 15/2 chance going into the race, after winning average races...this showed what the english had to offer...I still think jessies would of won but for a better ride and not in lane 8... This years are a stone better at least from this side of the water...and I expect one of them to win... |
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have to say I don't think the irish novices are a great bunch this year...
-------------- Those four Giggy horses for a start. Last Instalment First Lieutenant Bog Warrior Sir Des Champs. |
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Do you think they are better than the english ones then in comparison?? apart from bog warrior that is...
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Grand Crus has done nothing to warrant his lofty reputation beat SC of PN and another PN hype horse. The above 2 he beat cant jump.
Sprinter Sacre is real deal I have no doubts about that!!!! but he is winning nothing races. People love to crab Irish form saying small field nothing race exactly what all these England Novice Chasers are doing 4 field runner races full of nothingness where they make there own running and beat inferior rivals. Some reputations will be destroyed at the Festival and Grand Crus is the one I am all over to get |
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If you read what I said I certainly wasn't crabbing the horses form...just his ability...but depends if you handicap horses yourself...
Ask yourself the question do you rate allee garde a top novice and how do you rate him...I think he is about a 142-145 horse tops...and first lieutenant certainly hasn't set me alight... Ask yourself another one, how good do you think the 9 year old call the police is?? 147 career high and lambro how good do you think he is?? 142 best... Listen you obviously think the Irish novices are better than I do...and that is what the forum is all about... Last Installment certainly deserves respect as think he is a super jumper who finds which is what you want in an RSA winner but for me he still has plenty of improvement to find to be good enough to beat the english novices...he may well do.. Fair play on the grands crus lay but don't agree with your, warrant his reputation pun...champion court gives his form a decent look as does silviniaco conti and bobs worth...some reps will be destroyed and are every year... Don't know where sprinter comes into it as these are staying horses... |
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In fact I lye I suppose I was crabbing his form...
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but wasn't crabbing the horse as do like him...
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Fair enough Harry.
I think Sprinter Sacre is much a better bet than Grand Crus but if Bog Warrior shows up it be a great tussle between the 2 of them. One Horse i can not make out is Bobs Worth...what has he done to warrant such a short price than a multiple Grade 1 Winner in Last Instalment seems a bit baffling tbh. His trainer obviously comes in to the price buts nearly 3 points shorter looks a tad bit stupid IMO. Its fascinating stuff really but I can not forget that Rupert horse last year who was doing what Grand Crus was doing and then ran woefully. Fair enough Different horses etc etc etc...but he is ludacris price considering how good of a renewal this is. |
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Thats fair comment pal...I'd say the reason Bobs Worth is the price he is is mostly on the back of the grands crus gold cup shannanigans...but will say kempton wasn't his bag and cheltenham will be, add to which he has had a breathing op since but agree he should be around the 6 mark...he is tough and likeable horse but until we know the full field its difficult to form a book...bog warrior looks a top prospect to me but think they should mind him for next year but he would be a fascinating runner if allowed to take his chance...looks a top prospect him...
The time for rupert comment is fair but he had had an interrupted prep and those that backed it into 7-4 were basing on his good form earlier in the season he didn't run his race for me but thats racing... |
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OH ITS RACING
 I think we should say that every year...its a nightmare at times. One thing is for sure its going to be fantastic 4 days, really exciting Novices Chasers especially. With Racing legends every day and who knows with all the novice hurdler's bumpers etc. Can't wait...may have to take a few days off work. First 2 days for me are always the best. |
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yes good racing indeed and lots of cash to be made we hope
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May have to consider taking days off work?
Even entertaining working during these days any year is insane!! |
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lol, what he said ^
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Out of chelt
Picked up a injury wen winnin Sunday  |
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ah ffs
fancied him strongly,first of many to be ruled out though,sadly |
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ffs,That's what i hate about this time before chelters. |
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Shame.
Could have implicaations for Sir des Champs and Bog Warrior too. |
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no conserlation but long term it will do the horse more good than not,2014 grand national.
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sickening
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Painful
 Hope he is OK for next season. |
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Gutted.
He was my nap of the meeting. |
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Well, that's me buggered before we even start. Will take me more than my usual three minutes to get over this one, see you all in half an hour
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bad luck all who backed the horse ! its a nervy time for all when you hear chappers and co saying .........got some bad news for cheltenham ....lets hope the horse comes through it o.k and is back next year !
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Thats real bad luck,he was a huge player,hope hes back soon.
Hes a big future,that exhibition of jumping last week was bl00dy impressive for a novice,in fact impressive full stop. |
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seems to happen a lot in the last few weeks to chelters every year ,last week jessies dream about 5 days after i backed it on here for a few sheckles !
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One of my few backs for the meeting so far. What a sickener.
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he was my fav novice this season ,even tho i hadnt backed him for chelt.
I sincerly hope he recovers fully and wins the lexus,hennessy and chelt gold cup next season. |
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Yes a real shame
However as said a few times, as horses recover from their prep race or build up the intensity of their work before the big day, this will not be the last. Must be quite a stressful time for owners and trainers |
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Quotes from the trainer saying just a "slight" injury, and won't run as a precaution, so should be fine for next year, which is good news.
Makes it even more frustrating for those of us that backed him and the vet's bill for next door's cat makes the losses even worse. |
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Isn't that what they said about Weapons Amnesty? I hope the horse comes back - he looks very promising - but a lot of them don't.
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