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liked the way he won last time.....anyone any reason why not to back for rsa at 8s
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None whatsoever now he's won well on better ground. This years RSA is looking very similar to last years with Grand Crus taking the Time For Rupert role. I always look for an experienced horse thats tough and 'battle hardened' for want of a better expression. Grand Crus is a talent but I reckon he's there to be shot at and Feltham winners has a shcking record in the RSA...I think of the last 17 winners of the Feltham, none have won the RSA.
PS - I havent ruled out First Leuitenant either ! |
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No couldn't put you off him. Mainly as it is looking likely that Grands Crus is gonna have a tilt at the big one which will open the Market up.
Think grands Crus is the one to beat. |
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I think First Lieutenant is massive value at 20/1. Conditions at Cheltenham are unique and nothing like what these horses experience throughout the season. The important thing is that he's been getting plenty of chase experience and we know he runs the track with a previous festival win on likely good ground. I expect Grands Crus to take his shot (correctly imo in a wide open year) at the Gold Cup and assuming that happens I can't see FL going off bigger than around 7/1 on the day.
Weapons Amnesty was very similar profile in showing massive improvement at Cheltenham after less than spectacular, but several prep runs in Ireland to gain experience. My one slight worry is that it's the same ownership as Last Instalment (never run at Cheltenham) so would they run them in the same race? Different trainers so it's possible, but how can they not run First Lieutenant in the RSA Chase as a previous festival winner (he surely won't be stuck in the 4 mile NH Chase?) |
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The owner would happily have more than one runner
Sure he did in the race last year |
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agree with villaboy on first liuet on all points and the trainer has said he would not put anyone oof backing this horses at 20s non runner no bet at lads ,already on !
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sorry ignore that last post about first leiut nrnb my mistake ....senialiality fast approaching!
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i love last instalement but i read giginstown have said its likely they wont send him to chelt as hes a heavy topped horse who must have at least soft ground.
id love to see him at chelt if anyone knows differently? |
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^ I think that was before he won on good ground over xmas.
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If he turns up then he's the one i'm thinking of at the moment. Having said that, I worked completely from stats last years and it chucked up Bostons Angel at 20/1 for me
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I backed him after his last win as it seems my initial bet on Grands Crus is likely to prove fruitless. I thought the win on better ground would encourage an appearance at Cheltenham - I'm slightly concerned that they still seem reluctant to commit even since the last win.
I'm starting to think this race is turning into last years Ryanair for me I think I had 3 covered antepost and none made it! |
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First Lieutenant for me too at the price. Don't think we'll see the best of him until Cheltenham, and his prep is the same as last year with him going straight there from Leopardstown at Christmas. Surely it is significant that Davy Russell has missed out on Bog Warrior and Last Instalment winning to stick with this guy.
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FOYLESWAR, Lads aren't nrnb on that race mate, just the four championship races.
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Woops! Just seen your correction, apologies.
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tory first leuit fits a lot of the stats for the r.sa
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I think the Feltham form is the best on offer, however Last Installment looks a real good jumper which counts for a lot in the RSA.
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i think last instalement could be a gold cup winner next year if the ground ever turns up soft again at chelt...
Anyone know if gigi have an updated view on him travelling in march? |
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 goes to chelt acc to trainer on rte |
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Has to be a major player. Much prefered to FL for the same owners. Always spot on at his fences.
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What price you got Baz? 12/1 here posted on the NH thread
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I like the way he picked up after the last fence. It looked like Call The Police was going the better but LI found plenty.
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He won well. I disagree slightly about his jumping - he jumped out to the right at most of them. So much so he took out Lambro at the second last which may have made the race easier for him. However, he looks a super prospect.
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Accept he tended to go slightly right, but nothing too serious. Never seems to have to adjust at fences. Seems to hit them on a stride.
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Doesn't seem to touch a twig but gets from one side to the other very quickly. Lots of ear pricking too, liking that.
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I agree Stront, I think the tendency to go right cost Jessies Dream last year, and I have the feeling that it could do for LI this year.
I'm not sure whether he'll be a lot shorter on the day either, especially as Grands Crus will probably get piled into. It's also a worry that GC, BW and FL have all won or run very well at the Festival, whereas LI has never seen the course. I'll definitely be looking to oppose GC though, and my main bet so far has been FL, but I might play LI on the day. |
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I agree Stront, I think the tendency to go right cost Jessies Dream last year, and I have the feeling that it could do for LI this year.
I'm not sure whether he'll be a lot shorter on the day either, especially as Grands Crus will probably get piled into. It's also a worry that GC, BW and FL have all won or run very well at the Festival, whereas LI has never seen the course. I'll definitely be looking to oppose GC though, and my main bet so far has been FL, but I might play LI on the day. |
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I agree Stront, I think the tendency to go right cost Jessies Dream last year, and I have the feeling that it could do for LI this year.
I'm not sure whether he'll be a lot shorter on the day either, especially as Grands Crus will probably get piled into. It's also a worry that GC, BW and FL have all won or run very well at the Festival, whereas LI has never seen the course. I'll definitely be looking to oppose GC though, and my main bet so far has been FL, but I might play LI on the day. |
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Ive got First Lieutenant antepost,but if LI lines up on the day i will definitely be backing him as well.
Just hope Grand Crus stays in the RSA. |
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oops sorry
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Dont see why LI wont run. Giggintown Stud had two runners in the race last year I think or the year before.
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philipo Fenton has just said he goes to Cheltenham mate,but im not convinced he will get any shorter if Grand Crus runs.
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I think LI is very likley to run and to be Gigginstown's #1. I can't understand why FL is so close to him in the betting on all known chase form.
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 That would be Philips italian cousin |
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Probably previous Cheltenham form mate plus Pricewise tipped him i think.
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I know he's been Pricewised, I don't really get why! I would have LI much shorter than FL at this stage.
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me too
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Interesting that the horse started jumping right, that was his second run on better ground...have to like the way he knuckled down though...
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Haven't read seagull's reasoning for supporting FL but cannot understand it either stront. Seems to be a general assumption that FL can beat LI up the hill on festival ground, even though LI slaughtered FL at Leopardstown on what was essentially typical Cheltenham ground and LI was certainly not coming back to FL day and finished with his ears pricked.
How it is still 8's with Ladstroke's I have no idea. I guess all the shrewdies have had their stakes limited to £2 a horse? |
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What price do you think he should be thieves??? on the back of beating call the police who doesn't look a world beater and lambro who is hardly the most trust worthy individual...think he about right if they all turn up...
have to say I don't think the irish novices are a great bunch this year... |