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By:
Howdi
When: 10 Jan 12 15:08
im with you stars but cant understand on the base of what he has achieved why he is so short. I'd want 8s-9s from what ive seen.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 10 Jan 12 21:14
Well this is how I see it. I don't..

You cannot possibly judge the day of the race market now with still prep runs to come...

1 : If Grand Cruise is a runner it is because he disappoints in the Argento...imo

2: Bobs Worth will come in in price but only if he impresses in his prep run and then you have the irish horses which also need prep runs and the other british runners

3: the betting now is purely on what people perceive to be the best horse and value in the race...in their opinion

4: Grand Cruise has fuelled the gamble that is taking place..imo

Only after the prep runs will we be able to predict the day of the race market. Trying to predict now is like trying to predict the Guineas Market when we don't know what is running.imvho

I know I proposed the question. I just wanted to know what Shockster thought the price would be in regards to whether he thought the price would be shorter..
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 10 Jan 12 21:24
seathestars was this bet 2.5 k e.w for the gold cup or r.s/a  ?
By:
Shakepseare's Sheriff
When: 10 Jan 12 21:27
Simonsig has come in from 35s on here to 22 for the albert bartlett....any news
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 10 Jan 12 22:09
Think this is just a correction SS. 25/1 with WH but much shorter with all the others.
By:
Shakepseare's Sheriff
When: 10 Jan 12 22:30
cant be it does not work that way on here....the punters dictate the price with whoever is backing whatever horse
By:
dtamutants
When: 11 Jan 12 00:47
Don't know if this is common knowledge, but apparently Bob's Worth has had a wind op since Kempton. The moves could be confidence from the stable now that a problem has been solved.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 11 Jan 12 11:32
As i understand it foyles, the bet was on Bob's Worth for the RSA! Hope this helps Whoops
By:
harry callaghan
When: 11 Jan 12 13:50
Dtamutants- Is that gospel about the wind op????Where did you here that then??

Interested to know?
By:
harry callaghan
When: 11 Jan 12 21:42
Found it...

At the weekend, the most significant move came for the Nicky Henderson-trained Bobs Worth, who shortened to 5-1 (from
6-1) for the RSA Chase, even though he had been beaten five and a quarter lengths by Grands Crus in the Feltham Chase at Kempton Park on Boxing Day. And there was a reason.

Henderson explained:“Barry [Geraghty] was suspicious of his breathing at Kempton.

“We scoped him but found nothing. We made a small adjustment to his soft palate and he is back cantering.”
By:
horse9
When: 11 Jan 12 21:48
What price does Bobs Worth bomb to if/when Grand Crus is a confirmed Gold Cup runner ?
Who else in the race has any sort of form on the level of Bobs Worth ?
I'm guessing 7/4 on the day especially if that run behind Grand Crus could have been improved upon with the breathing adjustment
By:
harry callaghan
When: 11 Jan 12 22:03
Yes agree I think that is why he is getting batted off the boards...Silviniaco Conti has better form but not sure he is a runner and maybe he might be an early season type not sure or Jewson maybe don't know with him, lots of ifs and ands pots and pans...his price can only contract I would say. And rightly so he is a smashing horse...Persian Punch of the jumps game this horse..
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 11 Jan 12 22:12
sorry thought we was talking bout grans crus ! ill get my coat!
By:
buddeliea
When: 12 Jan 12 07:46
whats wrong with the irish form?
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 12 Jan 12 08:16
dont think nothing wrong with the irish form budd, in fact fancy mouses one strongly .
By:
horse9
When: 13 Jan 12 22:53
Expect Binocular to shorten, confirmation the horse has also had a wind op, whether anyone thinks he's good enough to regain his crown is debatable but any procedure to improve the horses breathing can only be a positive...
By:
harry callaghan
When: 14 Jan 12 11:02
Bobs Worth now joint Favourite for RSA at 5.8 on here...its just relentless cashExcited
By:
wellchief
When: 14 Jan 12 16:12
^^^^Bobs Worth now FAVOURITE on here!!!!
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 14 Jan 12 20:17
I can't get over that badbrokes are just 6/4 Grand Crus for the RSA without even being nrnb in the race, utter madness and to think they will be laying it every now and again!
By:
Howdi
When: 14 Jan 12 23:07
i loved Bobs Worth last year but his jumping has career has only been solid to date 10s to 5s ive seen looks bonkers imo
By:
harry callaghan
When: 15 Jan 12 13:32
Just slightly disagree howdi..

I think punters have seen a nice edge in the market and have capitalized howdi and fair play to them...

Grand Cru doesn't look a runner and with silv conti and doubts with the irish runners they have spotted an edge and I think its a good gamble myself.. Bobs I don't think liked the track the last day and Cue Card has since franked his form and he looks tough as teek to me which is ideal for an RSA runner...Fair play to me...

If Grand Cru isn't a runner what price would you be pal??
By:
Howdi
When: 15 Jan 12 21:19
id happily lay 5s grand crus could easily turn up yet and i like last installment and nichools other one.
By:
strontium
When: 15 Jan 12 22:53
I'm far from convinced Grands Crus is a good thing for the RSA if he does show up there. The more I watch teh Feltham the less impressed I am. He won well. However, he jumped competently but not brilliantly, didn't quicken (though that may have been because of the strong gallop) and didn't appear to find much off the bridle. In the end he only beat Silvianco Conti by 2 l and was being closed down (though he was eased for perhaps the last 50 yards and his persuers were hard ridden). But overall, I don't see it as a commanding performance. He'd be the worthy favourite for the RSA but far from unbeatable imo if something like Bobs Worth, Join Together or Last Installment steps up.
By:
the happy lagger
When: 16 Jan 12 19:20
kentford grey lady, d.n.mares race, been nibbled at by the shrewdies if it wins at ascot on sat, will get smashed in.
By:
the happy lagger
When: 16 Jan 12 19:20
kentford grey lady, d.n.mares race, been nibbled at by the shrewdies if it wins at ascot on sat, will get smashed in.
By:
the happy lagger
When: 16 Jan 12 19:20
kentford grey lady, d.n.mares race, been nibbled at by the shrewdies if it wins at ascot on sat, will get smashed in.
By:
wellchief
When: 16 Jan 12 20:42
Mount Benbulben getting backed in everywhere for the Albert Bartlett
By:
harry callaghan
When: 16 Jan 12 20:45
Yes not a bad looking punt on the mount that...
By:
Colonel Sanders
When: 16 Jan 12 22:08
Is Champion Chase pricewise tomorrow?

If so is Wishful Thinking the pick?
By:
strontium
When: 16 Jan 12 22:16
Yes it is Colonel. As for the pick, it's what Oddschekcer would suggest, but big Zeb, Finians and Gauvain are also shortening all over the place.
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