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By:
shockster
When: 07 Jan 12 18:27
This is on todays Irishracing.com 

Noble Prince is likely to be given a tentative entry in the Hennessy Gold Cup at Leopardstown on February 12th.
Paul Nolan's smart chaser has been campaigned over shorter distances so far this season and was an excellent second to Big Zeb at Leopardstown over Christmas.

The eight-year-old has the two-mile-five-furlong Ryanair Chase as his Cheltenham Festival target, and Nolan must now decide whether to stick to shorter for his prep run, or step up to three miles for the first time in the Hennessy.

He said: "He'll be entered in the Normans Grove Chase in Fairyhouse, and he could also be entered in the Hennessy.

"The Normans Grove is over two miles and a furlong and the Hennessy is obviously three miles, so those are the options.

"If the ground at Leopardstown came up nice like it was at Christmas then the Hennessy could be a possibility.

"The only worry with that is that it could come too close to Cheltenham, so we'll see."
By:
BJG
When: 07 Jan 12 18:29
Plain
By:
sizer
When: 07 Jan 12 19:11
I just think Great Endeavor is cracking value at 14/1
By:
buddeliea
When: 08 Jan 12 08:14
Quel Esprit at the prices is interesting if this is where he runs,his camapign seems to indicate that imo
By:
FormStudent
When: 08 Jan 12 15:09
I was laughed at around the same time last year when I put up unlucky runner-up Kalahari King.

This year I will be given the same treatment I am sure...This years pick is Somersby.

Somersby has been confirmed as going for the Ryanair. The horse's liking for Cheltenham has been questioned, but I think Somersby loves Cheltenham. It's record at the festival is 3rd in the 2009 Supreme Novices Hurdle behind winner Go Native and 2nd Medermit, 2nd in a strong 2010 Arkle just being held by future Champion Chase winner Sizing Europe and 5th in 2011 Champion Chase when it was clear that 2m was then an inadequate trip. 2m 5f will be the perfect trip for Somersby and the horses chances of winning will be increased if the ground turns out to be the softer side of good.
By:
wellchief
When: 08 Jan 12 15:37
Somersby? LaughLaugh

Only jokin FormStudent; nothing wrong with putting something up from out of the box; otherwise it gets boring talking about favourites all the time, and Somersby has got a good festival record, but just seems to always run into 1 thats too good.

One I'd put up at a bigger price is Gauvain, who is tied into the Somersby form.  He won well first time out last year and then lost all his form, and disappointing in last years Ryaniar.

Based on that run he wouldn't have a hope this year, but he seems to have maintained his form much better this year.  He's also won three times round Cheltenham as well.

After his Peterborough Chase win, Nick Williams assistant trainer said, "He does tend to run best fresh so the Ascot Chase is a possibility as he was second in that last year and you'd imagine the Ryanair again.  It's not so much the distance with him as just keeping him happy because he can be a bit of a character, but when things go to plan he's a good horse."

I think you'd know after about 2 fences whether you've done your money, but if he can get into a good rhythm I've seen worse 39/1 shots.  He's entered into the VC Chase against Finians and Al Ferof over 2m, but don't think he'll go down the Champ Chase route (he's 41/1 on here for that)
By:
TITCH 1
When: 08 Jan 12 15:38
I think Captain Cee Bee at 60's is way overpriced should he turn up on the thursday.

Couse form, will like the probable good ground, jumps great and the extra distance may be needed at this stage of his career.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 08 Jan 12 17:33
Not a bad shout there Titch, if he were to turn up...he has always looked a horse who would appreciate going further and at 60's he is a fair shout..not been seen since the summer however so not sure whether he is 100% but if he were and they said this was his target he wouldn't be without a fair chance..

Somersby is a horrible horse but may trade shorter in the run...the rechid horse however given the chance will find a way to lose, he will...there is no doubting his ability but when the pressure is applied he finds nothing then just plugs on...he has the ability, but is an awful character for his followers...get out in the run is my only advice...his run in the King George however you look at it says he can place so at around the 20's mark I suppose I can see your logic...if he wins I will be the first in the queue to apologize.
By:
FormStudent
When: 09 Jan 12 00:03
The same rechid horse that came with in a head of beating the current dual Champion Chase winner over course and distance. That's the one.

As I said I was laughed at last year when tipping Kalahari King.
By:
tomdeane
When: 09 Jan 12 00:30
I love Harry's castigating of Somersby, but to be honest, I completely agree with his assessment after following him well and truly over the cliff.

The irony is, I stood up for him way longer than anyone else, but the swine even managed to put the knife in on Boxing Day. I had (for me) a decent ante-post each/way double with him and Alarazi going.

The latter was third in the Ladbroke at 33s, which meant I had a good wedge running onto Somersby in the King George and as it was ante-post, third place would have paid out. Four out and I was counting my money but of the course the rest is history. When push came to shove his head went up, he missed the last three fences out, plugged on, and very much left the impression just one decent leap at those final three would have seen him get by Captain Chris for third.

As ever, the each/way angle at big prices can't be knocked as he has stacks of ability but I am starting to believe he would find a way of getting beaten in a walkover.
By:
sintonian
When: 09 Jan 12 09:24
yeah a detestable animal imo. On his Cheltenham form you can make a case for him making the frame at a good price. But if this horse is to win the race he'll need it to cut up as there are several horses in here who have plenty of class themselves and know how to fight.
By:
BJG
When: 12 Jan 12 12:41
Aerial (FR) (Tony Hayward and Barry Fulton) Paul Nicholls.................................... 6 11 10
Albertas Run (IRE) (Mr Trevor Hemmings) Jonjo O’Neill ....................................... 11 11 10
Apt Approach (IRE) (Greenstar Syndicate) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ........................ 9 11 10
Captain Chris (IRE) (Mrs Diana L. Whateley) Philip Hobbs ................................... 8 11 10
Champion Court (IRE) (Mr M. Boothright) Martin Keighley.................................. 7 11 10
Finian’s Rainbow (IRE) (Mr Michael Buckley) Nicky Henderson.......................... 9 11 10
Forpadydeplasterer (IRE) (Goat Racing Syndicate) Thomas Cooper, Ireland. 10 11 10
French Opera (Mrs Judy Wilson & Martin Landau) Nicky Henderson ................ 9 11 10
Gauvain (GER) (Jared Sullivan & Simon Brown) Nick Williams .............................. 10 11 10
Great Endeavour (IRE) (Mr D. A. Johnson) David Pipe........................................... 8 11 10
Hell’s Bay (FR) (A. G. Fear & A. J. Norman) Colin Tizzard.................................... 10 11 10
I’msingingtheblues (IRE) (Mrs Jo Tracey) David Pipe ............................................... 10 11 10
I’m So Lucky (Mrs S. J. Brookhouse) David Pipe ......................................................... 10 11 10
Jack The Giant (IRE) (Hanbury Syndicate) Nicky Henderson................................ 10 11 10
Jessies Dream (IRE) (Mr D. A. Johnson) Gordon Elliott, Ireland.......................... 9 11 10
Kalahari King (FR) (Mrs J. Morgan) Ferdy Murphy .................................................... 11 11 10
Kauto Stone (FR) (Mr R. J. H. Geffen) Paul Nicholls ................................................. 6 11 10
Little Josh (IRE) (Mr Tony Bloom) Nigel Twiston-Davies.......................................... 10 11 10
Magnanimity (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) D. T. Hughes, Ireland................. 8 11 10
Mahogany Blaze (FR) (Mrs Lorna Berryman) Nigel Twiston-Davies................... 10 11 10
Majestic Concorde (IRE) (Dr R. Lambe) D. K. Weld, Ireland ............................... 9 11 10
Medermit (FR) (The Dunkley & Reilly Partnership) Alan King................................ 8 11 10
Noble Prince (GER) (Mr D. P. Sharkey) Paul Nolan, Ireland .................................. 8 11 10
Poquelin (FR) (The Stewart Family) Paul Nicholls........................................................ 9 11 10
Quel Esprit (FR) (Red Barn Syndicate) W. P. Mullins, Ireland.................................. 8 11 10
Rare Bob (IRE) (D. A. Syndicate) D. T. Hughes, Ireland........................................... 10 11 10
Realt Dubh (IRE) (Mr D. J. Sharkey) Noel Meade, Ireland ..................................... 8 11 10
Rivage d’Or (FR) (Gigginstown House Stud) D. T. Hughes, Ireland..................... 7 11 10
Riverside Theatre (Jimmy Nesbitt Partnership) Nicky Henderson....................... 8 11 10
Roi du Mee (FR) (Gigginstown House Stud) Gordon Elliott, Ireland ................... 7 11 10
Rubi Light (FR) (Mr W. Hennessy) Robert Hennessy, Ireland................................. 7 11 10
Somersby (IRE) (Mrs T. P. Radford) Henrietta Knight ................................................ 8 11 10
Tartak (FR) (Power Panels Electrical Systems Ltd) Tom George ........................... 9 11 10
The Nightingale (FR) (Mr C. G. Roach) Paul Nicholls .............................................. 9 11 10
Tranquil Sea (IRE) (D. Cox/Nelius Hayes) E. J. O’Grady, Ireland......................... 10 11 10
Wishfull Thinking (Mrs Diana L. Whateley) Philip Hobbs ........................................ 9 11 10
Woolcombe Folly (IRE) (The Hon Mrs Townshend) Paul Nicholls....................... 9 11 10
Blazing Tempo (IRE) (Mrs S. Ricci) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ........................................ 8 11 3
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 12:45
Noble Prince & Captain Chris not given an entry for the CC. A little surprised by that tbh.
By:
strontium
When: 12 Jan 12 12:51
I'm a touch surprised to see Ghizao in the QMCC but not the Ryanair.
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 12:56
Yeah agree. If it gets Soft 2m would be fine for him. Oh well, trainers eh ?Laugh
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 12:57
Oops got that the wrong way around. I am not surprised he has been taken out the Ryanair tbh.
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 12:57
Oops got that the wrong way around. I am not surprised he has been taken out the Ryanair tbh.
By:
BJG
When: 12 Jan 12 13:01
Laugh
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 13:10
Laugh
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 13:11
Nice that Nolan has stuck to the plan. No QMCC entry suggests he means business imo. Excited
By:
wellchief
When: 22 Jan 12 14:31
Have to be a bit disappointed with that run from NP today.

Over a trip too short but for a Ryanair fav who's been running BZ to a length I fully expected him to win well.

Might not have been fully wound up but will need to improve to win, what's becoming an interesting Ryanair.
By:
Joist
When: 22 Jan 12 14:38
While I've not seen today's race yet, NP has never been a two miler to my eye and I expected him to get beat today. Call me cynical, but running him over inadequate trips in preparation for the Ryanair keeps his price juicy for the big day.
By:
wellchief
When: 22 Jan 12 14:53
I agree mate, don't think hes a 2 miler either, but running against much inferior opposition today.

He was getting pushed along from quite a way out but stayed on strongly.

Still got an outstanding chance in the Ryanair, but was expecting a bit more tbh.
By:
GI MAC
When: 22 Jan 12 15:25
Will be a much better horse when he gets his preferred good ground, good prep I thought.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 22 Jan 12 16:18
Grade 1 winner Tranquil Sea led the five runners into the straight but folded quickly from the second last fence leaving Blazing Tempo and Noble Prince to fight out the finish from the final fence.

Blazing Tempo, winner of this season’s Galway Plate, was produced to lead early on the run-in, and receiving her 7lbs mares allowance, went on to score a three parts of a length win over Noble Prince.

Afterwards a delighted Mullins said “she is holding her form and that was nice to win, given the ground. We had the choice of coming here or going to the **** Hurdle but rather than take on a handicap with 20 runners, we decided to take out chance today eventhough the ground might not be as suitable.

I was very pleased with that but not sure where we’ll go as she’s done more than enough – she’s an iron mare and has been on the go since Galway and been doing it in all sorts of ground. She’ll get an entry for the Ryanair Chase but I’m not sure if she’s good enough.”
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 22 Jan 12 16:18
*Spoilsports
By:
unclepuncle
When: 22 Jan 12 16:35
Didn't fancy him today at odds-on, actually backed Tanquil Sea as the valueCry

Won't go off as short as I though he might for the Ryanair now but still has every chance.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 22 Jan 12 16:48
Wouldn't be to disheartened myself I actually thought he ran right up to his best...tranquil Sea on his favoured ground was 6 lengths back to up held the form, I'd say he just ran into an improving mare...

Better ground will suit more but how much of a stamina test he wants I do not know as the Ryannair when you look at all the previous winners has been won by staying types and he certainly doesn't lack gears even though he won the Jewson last year over 2 1/2m...

But if you fancy him I'm sure his shrewd trainer will have him spot on the day and I certainly wouldn't be disappointed after that today, its just whether the horse is good enough on the day.
By:
BJG
When: 22 Jan 12 16:56
Thought it was a great Chelt prep too - was very happy with the run
By:
stevo1
When: 22 Jan 12 17:37
Lets hope he sticks to Ryanair route.
By:
VillaBoy
When: 22 Jan 12 18:35
Wasn't impressed with his jumping today,it was pretty sticky imo
By:
sintonian
When: 22 Jan 12 20:39
I've not seen todays run yet so cant comment on that, but last season he placed 2nd at the end on January (irish Arkle) prior to hacking up in March when he was stepped up in trip for the first time, so in that respect im not concerned. Trainer pattern clearly indicates he is being primed for March.

The difference this year is he will be going into a tougher race where the opposition will be stronger, so he will need to find some improvement, but I dont see why he cant.
By:
booster
When: 23 Jan 12 04:14
The form of Kauto Stone's Down Royal victory in November got a real boost when Blazing Tempo won yesterday. Nicholls' horse thrashed it without coming off the bridle and looks a proper Grade 1 horse, the only negative being his lack of Cheltenham form but 12-1 looks well over priced at this stage.
By:
wellchief
When: 23 Jan 12 17:27
Paul Nolan is hoping for improvement from Noble Prince in the Ryanair Chase at Cheltenham after he suffered a surprise defeat at Fairyhouse.

The eight-year-old remains a leading fancy for the Festival despite the loss at the hands of Blazing Tempo in the Normans Grove Chase.

However, Nolan was disappointed with Sunday's performance and will now concentrate on preparing last season's Jewson Novices' Chase winner for another tilt at the Festival in March.

"He's 100%. We were disappointed, but hopefully ground-wise he'll improve for Cheltenham and he has to improve on that run," said the County Wexford handler.

"We'll get him ready for Cheltenham now.

"The same views about the ground at Fairyhouse were given about the mare that beat us. We've just got to hope he improves for Cheltenham.

"He likes a break between his races, but we're not making excuses for Sunday's defeat."
By:
Arsene
When: 24 Jan 12 17:25
Has Nicholls mentioned anything about giving Kauto Stone a prep run anywhere? Was impressed with his run behind Sizing Europe.

Also think Great Endeavour would run well in this, but Pipe seemed very non commital towards the race in his column in the Post, with a handicap seemingly just as likely
By:
OnTheSnaff
When: 24 Jan 12 17:54
No chance in the Ryainair imo,beaten by an average horse who also hated the ground
By:
sintonian
When: 24 Jan 12 19:22
Not if you look through her form she didn't.

Not heard anything Arsene.
By:
Glossy
When: 24 Jan 12 19:30
Grand old Albertas does it again I believe. Keep it quiet mind.
By:
magic carpet
When: 24 Jan 12 21:09
Albertas has been a standing dish at the festival in recent years my only concern is that at 11 he may find one or two with younger legs who might just find him out.Noble prince is one of the horses i'd most like to take on at the current prices at the entire meeting.I don't think the form of his Jewson win has stacked up at all this season and the form of both Rubi Light and Somersby this year entitles both to be shorter in the betting
By:
Arklearkle
When: 24 Jan 12 22:01
Rubi Light was really only a novice last year and ran a blinder in the Ryanair. If ground not too firm has a great chance this year.
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