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By:
sintonian
When: 04 Nov 11 10:17
Which horses have underperformed CCM ? The only one I can think off is Master Minded.

He has had 12 winners from his last 45 runners, which is over 25%. Par. This does not represent horses not being right,imo.

re Hobbs, his last Arkle runner was Planet of Sound who finished 3rd. In his next season POS started off in the Haldon, which he won, and by the end of the season he was winning over 3 miles.
By:
sintonian
When: 04 Nov 11 10:18
I didn't say Finians did not stay the trip, I said he got outstayed by a horse blessed with more stamina.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 04 Nov 11 11:00
But Hobbs is quoted as saying he hopes he ends up in the QM mate? Seems odd to say that if that isnt the plan. I cant remember which thread I've posted what on now! But as said on one of them, I think connections have decided Wishful Thinking will be their KG, possible GC horse, so it seems logical to keep CC for the QM to me. And surely they must be swayed by the great record of Arkle winners? I am not sure it works comparing him to POS myself. Even in the Arkle he never looked a 2 miler, and there is quite a difference in finishing 3rd and winning. I also think their is a serious lack of top class 2 milers at the min, yet loads of exciting 3 milers.

Finians didnt stay, or was outstayed. Always impossible to decide if its one way or the other, but Finians didnt stay well enough to win. Thast the main point. Even with strengthening up, will he ever stay well enough to beat CC at Chelts? I would say not.

I think a few of PN's horses have underperformed. Master Minded as you said. Poquelin and What A Friend both ran poorly at Wetherby. Takeroc was the same at Ascot. I believe they couldnt believe Sollim didnt win at Chepstow this week. To be fair, I didnt realise he had had that many winners, so I was wrong in saying the yard is all wrong, but still think there are plenty not firing, and I think you can ignore some horses runs at this time of year. Bound to be a good bunch of his out of form. That was only in the context of ignoring Ghizao's run though. I'm not a fan of the horse anyway, but wouldnt be unduly concerned by the run if I was a backer.
By:
sageform
When: 04 Nov 11 11:30
My earlier point about Capt chris was that he is hard to read. He races like a stayer but cabfinish like the best 2 miler. The question is not so much can he win a Champion as will he runin it? Looks perfect for the Ryanair.
By:
sintonian
When: 04 Nov 11 12:41
POS was left 8 lengths at the start in his Arkle run CCM. Would have gone close otherwise.

We'll see anyway. You doing the TTF this year ?
By:
sintonian
When: 04 Nov 11 12:43
And I agree with you re the multiple threads. Really phucks me off people start news one all the time as a lot of the good posts get lost.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 04 Nov 11 12:59
Certainly am mate!
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 04 Nov 11 13:04
Have whittled my list down to 16. No idea how I'm going to get to 10 + 2.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 05 Nov 11 15:52
See what I mean about Nicholls Sint? Horses not right. Get up to speed will you Laugh
By:
sintonian
When: 06 Nov 11 17:22
Laugh

Makes Ghizaos run look even worse.

As mentioned previously, only real possible reason for his failure in the Haldon was the ground, as his best peformances have come on Soft, and on breeding Tiger Hills love a bit of cut.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 11 15:35
Nicholls horses suddenly find form when the £10k races are around. Happens every year.
By:
sintonian
When: 07 Nov 11 16:05
But they were never out of form, Sage. He was running at a 25% strike rate before the weekend.
By:
mythical prince
When: 07 Nov 11 17:36
my impression from the race was that he lost his confidence after making some mistakes early, ruby wisely took him
wide to get a better look at his fences, but his effort petered out fairly quickly, possibly due to race-fitness.

unwise to write him off on the back of one run.
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