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MINSK....TRUIMPH HURDLE
MINSK....TRUIMPH HURDLE
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Never mind Cammy,it does not always go to plan,we went for a touch a big odds and it has not worked out,thats racing.Would have liked him to have been given a more positive ride but he had his chance,will improve but time against him for cheltenham.Well back to the grindstone and the battle with the old enemy,best of luck for the future Cammy.
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Goes to Cheltenham and i have backed at 21 now again
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Value now @ 21. Will come on a ton for that
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I'd side with Grumeti at 8-1 and Sadlers Risk at 10-1
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judo,calm down,He's already proven he can throw in a shocker,looks a bit of a bridle ponce,will chuck it in when under pressure.
btw when was the last time a maiden won the Triumph? |
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last maiden was surely Shiny Copper?
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Dessie Hughes will be getting lots of bookmaker diaries next year for filling their satchels there. Is he a bookies spokesman on the side?
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SJ,i think you are right mate,thats the 2 against the field imo.
Think Sadlers will be a big player if he can settle better,but he will have to. Grumeti most likely winner imo |
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Was surprised to hear Nevison really crabbing the Grumeti win at Cheltenham. I like him, does everything well. Sadlers I could see him turning round the Baby Mix result as you say with settling better, off a stronger pace, and think he will be staying really strongly up the hill
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Can anybody tell me why Grumeti is a shorter price than pearl swan?
i thought pearl swan beat him fair and square at Cheltenham |
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Grumeti was giving weight iirc, hurdled badly for the first half of the race after his heavy fall at Newbury, tried to jump the horse walk, got barged in to on the run-in and didn't have Choc.
Pearl might be expected to improve for the run, but I'd fancy Grumeti to uphold the form (not by much though). |
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thanks guys keep the chin up eh
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Everyone gets em wrong cammy, one of those things. Still might not be wrong
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Sorry Strontium, Hutchinson is a far better jock than Choc.
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That's a matter of opinion. In any case, the question was about why Grumeti is shorter in the market than Pearl Swan and jockeys might be a factor for some people.
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pearl swan and balder succes for me
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Cannot agree with those who think Sadler's Risk will reverse form with Baby Mix.
I do admit to having an interest in BM, but today he was a target for virtually the whole straight and SR couldn't go by an to my eye was well on top at the line. Unluck cammy and those who were on at 16s. Cannot help having a wry smile thinking about those who joined in based purely on hype at lower prices especially single figures |
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Ranjaan for me got every chance.Improving and like the times.
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I cant see beyond saddlers risk at the moment, course didn't suit today and Cheltenham will. The break neck speed of the triumph will be a big plus and help it settle.
I can't help think of the defeat of menorah in his prep race before the supreme. 2 weeks to go and time for the stable to come out of its dip. GL all. |
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I cant believe people have lost faith in minsk if you ever want a schooling session on ground i dont think he appreciated the jockey i should imagine was told not to give him a hard race on bad ground 2 WEEKS BEFORE FESTIVAL obviously tried to just pinch it and fekked up ........he is still going to the triumph ask yourself WHY? CAMMY KEEP THE FAITH AND FILL YOUR BOOTS
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i can see it having a little injury just before triump, so that connections can save face
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Is Bryan Cooper related to Tommy Cooper? They should remove the feature from attheraces as the way he bigs up Minsk is cruelty to animals.
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the form race is Hisabaat /shadow catcher at leopardstown burrenbridge lad behind who just was a pig of a ride that day but loved the conditions when pipping minsk ,the latter was having its first race in over 4 months on bad ground minsk will improve past them all ,when you see connections grinning as they walk into the winners enclosure on gold cup day just remember i toldya NOT AFTERTIMING LIKE SOME
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Are you serious?
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YES DEADLY
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The way he jumps he's have more chance in the Arkle.
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or the Horse of the Year show.
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The way he jumped the last two hurdles in the straight he would of cleared a double decker bus
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I have still seen nothing to make me think Grumeti won't win.
Tough, stays well, has pace, won over course and distance. Rock solid and still looks like he has improvement ahead. Looks a real National Hunt type, not one of these flashy bridle pansies. |
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will be here ready to laugh at you people on FRIDAY 16TH MARCH YOU KNOW NOTHINGS you just watch you dont notice or understand racing and horses
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Im with you Henry,very slow pace,horrible ground,there is still hope.I think Minsk is a lot better than he showed today,my money is down on him a big prices, gone in again each-way,maybe foolish but just a gut feeling we will see a different horse at Cheltenham.
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hype, more potent than crack cocaine,
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I wonder if anyone could help me, Balder Succes is trained by the same trainer as Grumeti, why would he not consider running this horse in the Supreme, I was very impressed by him last time out.
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"Im with you Henry,very slow pace,horrible ground,there is still hope.I think Minsk is a lot better than he showed today,my money is down on him a big prices, gone in again each-way,maybe foolish but just a gut feeling we will see a different horse at Cheltenham."
Those were the excuses used for Dildar before. Minsk just isn't anywhere near good enough. Infact there's no point in him going, and i'm not even sure he will. |
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ginger, the trainer is considering the Supreme for Balder Success, think he said.
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Ginger, the Supreme looks the obvious race for Balder S. French bred 4yos done well before in the race getting weight and better chance of a bit of give in the ground on day 1, faster ground is an unknown for him.
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judo, the "egg and spoon" race Balder Succes won at Ascot being the same class 2 race that Menorah was 2nd in before winning the Supreme and which was won last year by the horse that finished 3rd in the Supreme, whose name escapes me.
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I'm with judorick here. Baby Mix should be clear favourite for the Triumph. He comfortably beat Sadlers Risk giving 3lb (the rest nowhere), we know he acts round Cheltenham, and the stronger pace of the Triumph will help him settle. 7/1 is a gift imo.
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