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By:
stevo1
When: 09 Feb 12 03:30
Why is he not running this Sunday then?
By:
buddeliea
When: 09 Feb 12 07:46
Yeh,i realise that Joist,but thanks.
Must confess i aint seen him run,im not a flat fan really,so am waiting for him to show what he can do re jumping.
As you say its all hype at this stage,hopefully we will see what the fuss is about soon,although it seems it wont be this weekend.
By:
OnTheSnaff
When: 09 Feb 12 23:32
wow joist you sound like a real shrewdie,lets you u didnt follow washington irving with the same thoughts
By:
cammy glasgow
When: 11 Feb 12 20:37
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm another week to wait then , this is getting VERY EXCITINGCryCryCryCryCryCry
By:
mr_sykes
When: 11 Feb 12 22:36
The Irish have a bad record in the race which has to be a negative,race will prob go the the English again.
By:
Joist
When: 11 Feb 12 23:27
You seem really intelligent, OnTheSnaff. I was stating why there is hype over him, not my opinion of the horse.
By:
cammy glasgow
When: 13 Feb 12 14:05
PADDY POWER 8s now ???? THEY KNOW HappyHappyHappy
By:
saxon farm
When: 13 Feb 12 19:38
When are we going to see this creature?

Thanks in advance.
By:
OnTheSnaff
When: 13 Feb 12 19:39
Yes cammy they certainly do know how to lure in the sheep Shocked
By:
BJG
When: 13 Feb 12 19:41
Minsk is on course to make his eagerly awaited National Hunt debut at Fairyhouse later this month.

The Dalakhani gelding is a 10-1 shot for the JCB Triumph Hurdle at Cheltenham next month, mainly down to his form on the Flat. He won his last three starts for trainer John Oxx, culminating in the Irish Cesarewitch, where he romped home by five and a half lengths.

Owner Barry Connell sent Minsk to Dessie Hughes to be trained for a hurdling campaign, with the Triumph the target should all go well, and it looks like the Winning Fair Juvenile Hurdle at Fairyhouse on February 25 will be his only public outing before Cheltenham.

"He's good. He's going to Fairyhouse for the Winning Fair on the 25th," said Hughes.

"That will probably be his only run before Cheltenham. It might be enough. It just depends on the company he faces and how he runs.

"I expect him to be in top form for it. He likes the hurdles, but we'll see how he takes to them when he runs."
By:
willie the milk
When: 13 Feb 12 20:14
I'm telling you all now, and it is just a hunch. Minsk wont run in the Triumph. FFS, how long does it take to get a juvenile ready for the winter game.
By:
giggsy3444
When: 13 Feb 12 21:43
i read in the racing post today they asked B.Geraghty, a couple of tipsters and trainers if they thought that G1 juv hurdle winner had a chance in the triumph and one of them said i "i don't think we've seen the triumph hurdle winner yet!" neither do i because the winner is MINSK!!!
By:
OnTheSnaff
When: 13 Feb 12 22:18
This time last year we still hadnt seen the triumph winner in public,and the same will more than likely be the case this year,
But i very much doubt it will be Minsk,id hazard a guess and say it will be french/aga khan bred Wink
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 13 Feb 12 23:35
If Nichols trains this years triumph winner, as he did last year, the winner is dodging bullets imo Wink, as i do not know what the stats are, but is it true that nichols tends to bring out his juveniles in ability order every year? I.e worst - best in yardConfused
By:
BJG
When: 13 Feb 12 23:39
The one entered over here the weekend OTS? Devil
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 13 Feb 12 23:59
That would be either

Zarzal, Shamar or Kayalar thenConfused But most likely Shamar, as he is entered over the weekend with other two entered on WedsConfused OTSDevil
By:
cammy glasgow
When: 14 Feb 12 06:02
morning guys just in from the night shift, i will stick my neck out on here YET AGAIN and tell you that MINSK is a machine and the connections think the world of this horse he gets there to the truimph there can only be one winner this horse is the REAL DEAL and has a fantastic engine , the jumping as they say has to be seen , but if what i hear is right this horse will be better than the great HARDY EUSTACE , now that takes NUTS to say that dissmis MINSK @ your peril guys Angry
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 18 Feb 12 14:44
Into 8/1 and just 8.4 on here Shocked and still we are yet to see him or be entered up for anythingConfusedShocked
By:
giggsy3444
When: 18 Feb 12 15:38
he's running next weekend in a G2 juv hurdle. Zarkander hadn't made his debut until the 26th Feb last year before he won the triumph so i wouldn't worry to much about not seeing him yet. the fact he is clear 2nd fav and is the only one that hasn't run yet tells you how good he could be.
By:
eric_morris
When: 18 Feb 12 16:04
GOOOOOOAAAAAANNNNNN CCCAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
giggsy3444
When: 18 Feb 12 16:55
now fav on betfair. can't wait to see him run!!!!
By:
sj
When: 18 Feb 12 17:36
Cammy you 100% this will line up for the Triumph? Not been confident the way Hughes is talking. I like the look of him but worried this aint the main target
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 18 Feb 12 17:47
MINSK - FAV - NOT SEEN A NH RACETRACK YET

One of two things is going to happen with this in the next 10 days or so

1: He wins, is mighty impressive and is talked of as the 2nd coming, smashed into 2/1F antepost and everyone is talking of how short he now is and cammy glasgow gets a massive pat on the back by his followers.

Or the most likely

2: He either doesnt make it for debut early enough for triumph, or makes it and gets beat at long odds, and theres a heck of a lot of blushing going on on here.

I am on at 12/1, but would trade out now if i was in a position to. Either luckily, or unluckily i am not in a position to trade it out as it is a cash bet in shop and i do not have the funds to cover a lay on here yet.

GL to all who have followed, we yet wait to be convinced further!
By:
eric_morris
When: 18 Feb 12 17:47
It only seems yesterday that training connections were putting people away in the press saying Hardy Eustace was Coral Cup bound while backing him at big odds for the Champion Hurdle on here. Lets hope for Cammy's sake they arent up to the same kind of tricks again re targets.
By:
eric_morris
When: 18 Feb 12 17:53
Anyone laying Minsk for races other than the Triumph ought to remember the Hardy Eustace body swerve to get a big price on here.
By:
Graeme83
When: 18 Feb 12 18:10
didn't davy russell say he thought the horse was lame a few days ago ?
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 18 Feb 12 18:14
But what other race could MINSK be entered up for? He is only entered up for one race, thats the triumph, due to run in a grade one on his hurdling debut, so must mean a handicap is out of the question unless he is undercooked and runs badly. Is there any supplementary stage for the supreme? I don't think there is but could be wrong.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 18 Feb 12 18:15
Lame a few days ago yet is heavily - ish backed on here without ever having seen him in publicConfused
By:
Graeme83
When: 18 Feb 12 18:19
He said it at a preview night a few days ago, that he knew “for a fact” that Minsk was lame this year and had no chance at Cheltenham.
By:
giggsy3444
When: 18 Feb 12 18:29
coloum in racing post with owner didn't have a single word in it about horse ever being lame. he said that he'll be running on the 25th and if he was to win easily "which he could very well do" then it will be onto the triumph. he also said that his targets for next years flat season may include the irish ledger and possibly the melbourne cup. he's held in high by connections and i see him hacking up in both his debut next weekend and the Triumph.
By:
giggsy3444
When: 18 Feb 12 18:29
coloum in racing post with owner didn't have a single word in it about horse ever being lame. he said that he'll be running on the 25th and if he was to win easily "which he could very well do" then it will be onto the triumph. he also said that his targets for next years flat season may include the irish ledger and possibly the melbourne cup. he's held in high by connections and i see him hacking up in both his debut next weekend and the Triumph.
By:
neill d
When: 18 Feb 12 18:30
will be kept for novice hurdles so, might let him off and then target something like the Newmarket Ces before going novice hurdling.
By:
giggsy3444
When: 18 Feb 12 19:57
we know this horse could be very good if taking to his new job but why is he being backed today?
By:
BJG
When: 18 Feb 12 19:58
Davy was being sarcastic Graeme as Shark Hanlon put him up as his best bet for Chelt - he was nt being serious!
By:
Graeme83
When: 18 Feb 12 20:09
bjg - are you sure ?
By:
BJG
When: 18 Feb 12 20:15
Thats wat i was told anyway, he was takin de piss out of Shark as Shark said he was the best irish bet of the whole meeting that he has heard great things about it. The Davy said he was lame messing

No idea how Davy would know wat was happening at Dessie Hughes and no1 else would so i assume he was takin the p
By:
giggsy3444
When: 18 Feb 12 20:21
cheers BJG thats sorted that out then. i think this could be very good.
By:
BJG
When: 18 Feb 12 20:26
Posted on the Chelt preview thread there now - i was nt there so cant say 100% but would be 99.99% sure he is only rising Shark!
By:
grocerjack
When: 19 Feb 12 08:36
Think he may have been backed yesterday(sat)because of the rave reviews the moaning line gave it.
By:
eric_morris
When: 19 Feb 12 09:00
Guest Tom Seagull put it forward as an Irish Festival fancy when they were looking video of Irish Festival contenders. Dessie Hughes interview where he says they got it going with him since Christmas and he has schooled very well, the horse has taken to them from the first day he jumped them he's been fantastic, hopefully he'll repeat it on the track. Hoping he runs a good race in Fairyhouse.

Seagull confirmed indirectly that he does get privileged info for his day of race selections by saying re Minsk after Luck mentioned the use of reading trainer body language, vibes and reading between the lines (some of us have been doing that for years it is v important antepost to profile the trainers by the way) and Seagull confirming this tricky art to master but he thinks (as do I) that trainers give the best indication of how they rate horses this way and the vibes from Dessie Hughes is that this is a really, really good horse who jumps really well.
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